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Irish border 15:20 - Oct 17 with 237 viewstrampie

Seems like our politicians are trying all ways to avoid having a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and the UK and also trying to avoid having a border in the Irish sea as not to upset the Unionists.

If they cant come up with a compromise idea or some kind of fudge and it comes down to a straight choice between a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland or a border in the Irish sea between the island of Ireland and Great Britain then I think it will have to be a border in the Irish sea.
How long before Irish unification anyway ? as regards a border in the sea.

They are going to have to make a choice or come up with a solution at some point as this cant go on forever, can it …. hmm

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Irish border on 15:39 - Oct 17 with 219 viewsWingstandwood

Keep the border the nationalist South Armagh/North Louth IRA would say!..... Keep partition the nationalist South Armagh/North Lough IRA would want!..... Keep the cross-border tax differential(s) the nationalist South Armagh/North Lough IRA desperately require...... Sustain the ununited north and south status quo so that nationalist South Armagh/North Lough IRA cross border fuel smuggling, dodgy diesel manufacture and other criminal enterprise can continue. Only a tw@t would support that lot!

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Irish border on 15:48 - Oct 17 with 198 viewsCatullus

There is no solution that's acceptable to all sides. The DUP won't accept a border between it and the rest of the UK, the EU won't accept a hard border, the UK won't accept NI being in the EUI post brexit.

It's that simple. Unless something drastic happens it makes a no deal highly likely. The EU wants the UK to cave in and accept NI being annexed by the EU, effectively. However the DUP won't have that and will withdraw support for May if they agree to it possibly causing the government to collapse.
The EU hopes for that collapse and that whoever gains power will call a general election and/or a second referendum which leads to reversing brexit.
The only other choice is a brexiteer leader who wins the election and leaves with no deal and we go to WTO rules. That would have to be a manifesto pledge and we could easily end up with a minority government who can never get no deal past the MP's.

This could rumble on for ages.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Irish border on 15:56 - Oct 17 with 187 viewstrampie

We should have nothing to do with Ireland, its costing the British taxpayer a bomb [no pun intended].

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Irish border on 16:01 - Oct 17 with 179 viewswestwalesed

Irish border on 15:48 - Oct 17 by Catullus

There is no solution that's acceptable to all sides. The DUP won't accept a border between it and the rest of the UK, the EU won't accept a hard border, the UK won't accept NI being in the EUI post brexit.

It's that simple. Unless something drastic happens it makes a no deal highly likely. The EU wants the UK to cave in and accept NI being annexed by the EU, effectively. However the DUP won't have that and will withdraw support for May if they agree to it possibly causing the government to collapse.
The EU hopes for that collapse and that whoever gains power will call a general election and/or a second referendum which leads to reversing brexit.
The only other choice is a brexiteer leader who wins the election and leaves with no deal and we go to WTO rules. That would have to be a manifesto pledge and we could easily end up with a minority government who can never get no deal past the MP's.

This could rumble on for ages.


Sadly this is the only analysis of the situation that I can come on board with.
The only outcome is No Deal - we may as well just get on with it now, take the hit and move on as a nation.

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Irish border on 16:13 - Oct 17 with 162 viewstrampie

Irish border on 16:01 - Oct 17 by westwalesed

Sadly this is the only analysis of the situation that I can come on board with.
The only outcome is No Deal - we may as well just get on with it now, take the hit and move on as a nation.


Yes and then the No Deal outcome results in Scotland and Ireland being pulled out of EU against their wishes made worse by the hard Brexit resulting in Scottish independence and a united Ireland in the medium term if the conditions of the Republic of Ireland are seen to be doing well and the UK not doing so well with the Scots having to put up with Conservative Governments in Westminster, the perfect storm might well be brewing.

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