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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave 09:47 - Oct 24 with 3140 viewsMogzzy9

So the gentleman I sit next to was telling me about the Villa trip in which he had to have a word with the guy behind him who thought it would be a good idea to shout racial slurs towards Tammy Abraham. Encouraging our players to "snap the **** p***k. Not only did he play for us last season and give it his all but what the hell has Abraham done to deserve that kind of abuse.
The lad reported it to Kick It Out and reached out the club. The Swans have since contacted him for a statement.

I have just read an article of a lad racially abusing Ashley Williams during the Wales v Ireland match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45907798

Kids go to these games, this isn't the example we should be setting.
Do the right thing guys if you hear anyone being racially abusive, it doesn't matter who its aimed at, give them a stern talking to and report them to stewards and Kick It Out.
There's no place for it in this world.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 09:53 - Oct 24 with 2573 viewsProfessor

Not sure it went away. I think racism and xenophobia are more prevalent now than over the last 20 years. Some pretty nasty people are getting a voice in the media and there is certainly a much harder right of the Tories than for a long time. It has no place anywhere.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:11 - Oct 24 with 2505 viewsLeonWasGod

It's symptomatic of wider society, sadly. You've got mainstream politicians stirring up racial and xenophibic tensions and then little opportunist tosspots like Stephen Yaxley Lennon riding of the back of it. The knuckle-draggers feel emboldened.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:19 - Oct 24 with 2476 viewsomarjack

It wasn't really socially acceptable to be openly racist a while back. But since the emergence of the far-right all over the west in the recent years. The closet racists stopped feeling like they have something to hide.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:22 - Oct 24 with 2466 viewspeenemunde

Stop social engineering
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:00 - Oct 25 with 2204 viewsLord_Bony

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:22 - Oct 24 by peenemunde

Stop social engineering


Interesting.

I ve never heard of that, what is social engineering?

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:03 - Oct 25 with 2200 viewsLoyal

I would like to congratulate the OP on this thread, however I do feel the need to point out the gender specific nature of his otherwise excellent prose.
Another topic for another day may be ?

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:06 - Oct 25 with 2198 viewsLoyal

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:00 - Oct 25 by Lord_Bony

Interesting.

I ve never heard of that, what is social engineering?


It's obvious, it's when you put a spark plug in to your Facebook doodle and claim to be a fish. Twitter are converting to unleaded as we speak.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 07:59 - Oct 25 with 2101 viewsMrSwerve

Racism needs to be kicked out of all walks of life, however due to human nature I can see it taking hundreds of years to eradicate it, if it ever is.

Also the acceptable ‘white racism’ needs to be stopped too. Ask Diane Abbott.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:22 - Oct 25 with 1997 viewsploppy

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 09:53 - Oct 24 by Professor

Not sure it went away. I think racism and xenophobia are more prevalent now than over the last 20 years. Some pretty nasty people are getting a voice in the media and there is certainly a much harder right of the Tories than for a long time. It has no place anywhere.


And the Labour left are innocent, I suppose.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:27 - Oct 25 with 1989 viewsLoyal

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 07:59 - Oct 25 by MrSwerve

Racism needs to be kicked out of all walks of life, however due to human nature I can see it taking hundreds of years to eradicate it, if it ever is.

Also the acceptable ‘white racism’ needs to be stopped too. Ask Diane Abbott.


Interesting thought, it's black power week on BBC radio 6, perish the thought any other colour would be involved, I'm not sure if it's double standards or not. I mean white power week is probably not the best idea, that's not what I'm saying if these programmes actually educate young people then it's a no brainer. My concern in time is that we are building an uneven society again, this time one which neither colour tolerates anhone and ends in a race war.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:02 - Oct 25 with 1818 viewsHighjack

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:19 - Oct 24 by omarjack

It wasn't really socially acceptable to be openly racist a while back. But since the emergence of the far-right all over the west in the recent years. The closet racists stopped feeling like they have something to hide.


Like that BrexitThomas bloke you mean?

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:05 - Oct 25 with 1813 viewsHighjack

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:27 - Oct 25 by Loyal

Interesting thought, it's black power week on BBC radio 6, perish the thought any other colour would be involved, I'm not sure if it's double standards or not. I mean white power week is probably not the best idea, that's not what I'm saying if these programmes actually educate young people then it's a no brainer. My concern in time is that we are building an uneven society again, this time one which neither colour tolerates anhone and ends in a race war.



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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:10 - Oct 25 with 1807 viewsHighjack

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 07:59 - Oct 25 by MrSwerve

Racism needs to be kicked out of all walks of life, however due to human nature I can see it taking hundreds of years to eradicate it, if it ever is.

Also the acceptable ‘white racism’ needs to be stopped too. Ask Diane Abbott.


You're always going to get the odd f*cking idiot. I would imagine that 99% of all the people in a football crowd today would be horrified to hear genuine racist abuse and would either tell the person to shut up or report it to the stewards/police.

You're never going to eradicate it.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:39 - Oct 25 with 1778 viewsMogzzy9

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:10 - Oct 25 by Highjack

You're always going to get the odd f*cking idiot. I would imagine that 99% of all the people in a football crowd today would be horrified to hear genuine racist abuse and would either tell the person to shut up or report it to the stewards/police.

You're never going to eradicate it.


Absolutely, there is always the odd few idiots about. It's just a shame to hear that its coming from Swansea & Wales fans. The only real way to tackle it is to report each and every person who is caught hurling such abuse.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:55 - Oct 25 with 1764 viewsFlashberryjack

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:10 - Oct 25 by Highjack

You're always going to get the odd f*cking idiot. I would imagine that 99% of all the people in a football crowd today would be horrified to hear genuine racist abuse and would either tell the person to shut up or report it to the stewards/police.

You're never going to eradicate it.


Spot on, don't tell me there's more racism now than there was a few years ago, there's certainly more people looking for it, and sometimes finding it where it isn't.

The person hurling racist abuse at Tammy is the exception to the rule.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 17:14 - Oct 25 with 1688 viewsBadlands

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 15:55 - Oct 25 by Flashberryjack

Spot on, don't tell me there's more racism now than there was a few years ago, there's certainly more people looking for it, and sometimes finding it where it isn't.

The person hurling racist abuse at Tammy is the exception to the rule.


There is far more overt racism on display at Swans games than a few years ago. For a while civility ruled but in the past 2 -3 seasons I have been saddened at some of the confrontations and comments that have become commonplace.
An example from Tuesday,
Q 'Why isn't Asoro getting starts?'
A 'He's just another useless wog like Rutledge.'

Minutes later.
Q Any news of Bony's injury.
Q (different supporter) The lazy black c*** is just here for the money.'

A black bloke who had been coming quite regularly and had been having comments made about his colour - behind his back but making sure he could hear them - has stopped.

I gave up reporting these events as nothing was being done about it.

Someone I spoke to made the offer to move my season ticket to another seat.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 17:17 - Oct 25 with 1683 viewsJackfath

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 17:14 - Oct 25 by Badlands

There is far more overt racism on display at Swans games than a few years ago. For a while civility ruled but in the past 2 -3 seasons I have been saddened at some of the confrontations and comments that have become commonplace.
An example from Tuesday,
Q 'Why isn't Asoro getting starts?'
A 'He's just another useless wog like Rutledge.'

Minutes later.
Q Any news of Bony's injury.
Q (different supporter) The lazy black c*** is just here for the money.'

A black bloke who had been coming quite regularly and had been having comments made about his colour - behind his back but making sure he could hear them - has stopped.

I gave up reporting these events as nothing was being done about it.

Someone I spoke to made the offer to move my season ticket to another seat.


If I heard comments like that near me, I would speak out and challenge the individuals using such words. Pricks.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 17:25 - Oct 25 with 1672 viewsAce_Jack

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:00 - Oct 25 by Lord_Bony

Interesting.

I ve never heard of that, what is social engineering?


telling people to stop being racist c**ts in public.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 18:20 - Oct 25 with 1613 viewsBadlands

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 17:17 - Oct 25 by Jackfath

If I heard comments like that near me, I would speak out and challenge the individuals using such words. Pricks.


I have done in the past when it was unusual but as I was pointing out, it is now routine. Last season I got in a bit of a do as well but with the stewards and some at the club pretending it isn't happening the chances are I'd get the ban. A couple of us did think we'd got a particular nasty f***** kicked out but it turned out he was moved to another part of the East.
I have also gained no support at all when sending up to these people.
Definitely a case of picking the right battles.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 18:59 - Oct 25 with 1583 viewsJackfath

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 18:20 - Oct 25 by Badlands

I have done in the past when it was unusual but as I was pointing out, it is now routine. Last season I got in a bit of a do as well but with the stewards and some at the club pretending it isn't happening the chances are I'd get the ban. A couple of us did think we'd got a particular nasty f***** kicked out but it turned out he was moved to another part of the East.
I have also gained no support at all when sending up to these people.
Definitely a case of picking the right battles.


The Trust need to raise their game over this. It's simply not on. We do not need it.

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 01:13 - Oct 26 with 1441 viewsScottishEddie

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:27 - Oct 25 by Loyal

Interesting thought, it's black power week on BBC radio 6, perish the thought any other colour would be involved, I'm not sure if it's double standards or not. I mean white power week is probably not the best idea, that's not what I'm saying if these programmes actually educate young people then it's a no brainer. My concern in time is that we are building an uneven society again, this time one which neither colour tolerates anhone and ends in a race war.


Good God

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 01:55 - Oct 26 with 1434 viewsswan65split

I look back in shame of the 70s Brad Ctys visits.........sadly I dont think it will ever go away.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 03:14 - Oct 26 with 1420 viewsLoyal

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 01:13 - Oct 26 by ScottishEddie

Good God


You haven't got the intelligence to compete mucka ...

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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 20:37 - Oct 26 with 1248 viewsJack59

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 10:22 - Oct 24 by peenemunde

Stop social engineering


There's also likely to be some sort of a backlash to all the 'positive discrimination' that's been going on for over 20 years.
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Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 20:43 - Oct 26 with 1237 viewsLord_Bony

Is Racism creeping back into football or did it never really leave on 18:59 - Oct 25 by Jackfath

The Trust need to raise their game over this. It's simply not on. We do not need it.


Indeed Fath.

The Trust could raise awareness and what to do about it.

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