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This world is messed up 15:49 - Nov 7 with 1154 views3swan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46120021

Man of 98 beaten in his home.

I know there are more good than bad people in this world, but there are many psychopaths.

What must go through their minds.
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This world is messed up on 14:28 - Nov 8 with 339 viewsHighjack

This world is messed up on 01:44 - Nov 8 by DJack

Accidentally up arrowed your post...

Dehumanising people takes us down to their level. I do agree with a spartan incarceration regimen but we should try to rehabilitate them.


And if rehabilitation fails like it always does, what do we do then?

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This world is messed up on 23:38 - Nov 8 with 295 viewsDJack

This world is messed up on 14:28 - Nov 8 by Highjack

And if rehabilitation fails like it always does, what do we do then?


We don't try too hard to rehabilitate. We do token stuff based on the latest fad/newest research findings. Demonstrating the "cost of crime" with criminals meeting their victims and talking to them has shown some results but all in all prisons just incarcerate the people.

Even if there was a full scale attempt to rehabilitate in prison there would also have to be a good support network outside, housing, job support, support to avoiding falling into old bad habits etc. On top of this we need to adjust our "society". There are other punishments other than jail and these need to be utilised (and enforced). We need to find out a way to make crime unglamorous to a section of our society and to educate the public that those that fall foul of the justice system need not be people who we should demonise - otherwise what is the incentive for them to reform?

Those that are given proper rehabilitation and subsequent support on two separate occasions and commit another crime should then be face a spartan chokey-time - barring a special psyche/social report.

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This world is messed up on 08:38 - Nov 9 with 253 viewsdameedna

Not sure the community has the mindset to meat out the punishment
I wont put the story up here but in summary after anincident on our street so called charity collectors I had to physically warn off
I had the police round checking out vigilante man
People are after money and need sorting out
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This world is messed up on 10:06 - Nov 9 with 238 viewscontroversial_jack

This world is messed up on 23:38 - Nov 8 by DJack

We don't try too hard to rehabilitate. We do token stuff based on the latest fad/newest research findings. Demonstrating the "cost of crime" with criminals meeting their victims and talking to them has shown some results but all in all prisons just incarcerate the people.

Even if there was a full scale attempt to rehabilitate in prison there would also have to be a good support network outside, housing, job support, support to avoiding falling into old bad habits etc. On top of this we need to adjust our "society". There are other punishments other than jail and these need to be utilised (and enforced). We need to find out a way to make crime unglamorous to a section of our society and to educate the public that those that fall foul of the justice system need not be people who we should demonise - otherwise what is the incentive for them to reform?

Those that are given proper rehabilitation and subsequent support on two separate occasions and commit another crime should then be face a spartan chokey-time - barring a special psyche/social report.


Excellent post.There is no support network.When a prisoner is released they are on their own, there's no housing support or benefits, so it's back to selling drugs once again
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This world is messed up on 10:15 - Nov 9 with 237 viewsHighjack

This world is messed up on 23:38 - Nov 8 by DJack

We don't try too hard to rehabilitate. We do token stuff based on the latest fad/newest research findings. Demonstrating the "cost of crime" with criminals meeting their victims and talking to them has shown some results but all in all prisons just incarcerate the people.

Even if there was a full scale attempt to rehabilitate in prison there would also have to be a good support network outside, housing, job support, support to avoiding falling into old bad habits etc. On top of this we need to adjust our "society". There are other punishments other than jail and these need to be utilised (and enforced). We need to find out a way to make crime unglamorous to a section of our society and to educate the public that those that fall foul of the justice system need not be people who we should demonise - otherwise what is the incentive for them to reform?

Those that are given proper rehabilitation and subsequent support on two separate occasions and commit another crime should then be face a spartan chokey-time - barring a special psyche/social report.


If you are honest with yourself would you be comfortable if rehabilitated murderers, rapists, violent criminals or paedophiles were housed in your street and supported to get jobs in your area?

Or would you prefer them to be put near someone else’s house?

Why should they get more help and support to get a job or housing than someone who hasn’t been a criminal? The rest of us don’t get a “support network” to help us along in life. Why should they get an advantage over the rest of us?

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This world is messed up on 10:34 - Nov 9 with 229 viewspikeypaul

This world is messed up on 10:15 - Nov 9 by Highjack

If you are honest with yourself would you be comfortable if rehabilitated murderers, rapists, violent criminals or paedophiles were housed in your street and supported to get jobs in your area?

Or would you prefer them to be put near someone else’s house?

Why should they get more help and support to get a job or housing than someone who hasn’t been a criminal? The rest of us don’t get a “support network” to help us along in life. Why should they get an advantage over the rest of us?


It’s the way the pathetic lefties think and why we are in the state we are.

Rather than molly coddle the scum of society we need to crack down and massively increase prison sentences and make conditions inside unbearable so they actually fear going there rather than think it’s an occupational hazard like at present.

But that will never happen whilst we have the snowflake lefties making excuses for the scum, you only had to listen to piece of racist filth that is Diane Abbott last night defending the perpetrators of knife crime last night on QT to realise that.

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This world is messed up on 10:41 - Nov 9 with 225 viewsHighjack

This world is messed up on 10:34 - Nov 9 by pikeypaul

It’s the way the pathetic lefties think and why we are in the state we are.

Rather than molly coddle the scum of society we need to crack down and massively increase prison sentences and make conditions inside unbearable so they actually fear going there rather than think it’s an occupational hazard like at present.

But that will never happen whilst we have the snowflake lefties making excuses for the scum, you only had to listen to piece of racist filth that is Diane Abbott last night defending the perpetrators of knife crime last night on QT to realise that.


The idea of taking a violent criminal and saying “well done mate, you’re rehabilitated, here’s a house and a job” when so many law abiding honest people are struggling to get on the housing ladder or to earn decent money is abhorrent to me. It’s almost like they are being rewarded for destroying somebody else’s life.

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This world is messed up on 12:17 - Nov 9 with 211 viewscontroversial_jack

This world is messed up on 10:41 - Nov 9 by Highjack

The idea of taking a violent criminal and saying “well done mate, you’re rehabilitated, here’s a house and a job” when so many law abiding honest people are struggling to get on the housing ladder or to earn decent money is abhorrent to me. It’s almost like they are being rewarded for destroying somebody else’s life.


It's not just violent criminals, anyone who gets a sentence will lose their jobs, homes and maybe families.They have served their time and need to start again from scratch.If there is no support network the whole cycle starts over again, with more victims more expense to the taxpayer etc.Whether others should have similar help is a different issue, and yes they should, but that's not on the agendas of the rightwingers
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This world is messed up on 15:05 - Nov 9 with 189 viewsHighjack

This world is messed up on 12:17 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack

It's not just violent criminals, anyone who gets a sentence will lose their jobs, homes and maybe families.They have served their time and need to start again from scratch.If there is no support network the whole cycle starts over again, with more victims more expense to the taxpayer etc.Whether others should have similar help is a different issue, and yes they should, but that's not on the agendas of the rightwingers


But this thread is about violent criminals. A 98 year old man was hospitalised in a brutal assault. Now call me “right wing” if you like but I don’t particularly care if the perpetrators lose their jobs, families and homes. They should have thought about that before laying hands on a frail old man.

They should never be freed and I hope they rot.

Yours sincerely

A.Hitler.

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This world is messed up on 17:50 - Nov 9 with 157 viewscontroversial_jack

This world is messed up on 15:05 - Nov 9 by Highjack

But this thread is about violent criminals. A 98 year old man was hospitalised in a brutal assault. Now call me “right wing” if you like but I don’t particularly care if the perpetrators lose their jobs, families and homes. They should have thought about that before laying hands on a frail old man.

They should never be freed and I hope they rot.

Yours sincerely

A.Hitler.


Yes, i agree, the topic is about violent criminals, but you know how these threads very often go off track.

You may not care what happens to the prisoners on release, but someone has to look at the bigger picture and unless there is some support or rehabilitation then the cycle starts again and nothing has been accomplished.
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This world is messed up on 18:09 - Nov 9 with 146 viewsSwanjack10

This world is messed up on 17:50 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack

Yes, i agree, the topic is about violent criminals, but you know how these threads very often go off track.

You may not care what happens to the prisoners on release, but someone has to look at the bigger picture and unless there is some support or rehabilitation then the cycle starts again and nothing has been accomplished.


Capital punishment

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This world is messed up on 18:20 - Nov 9 with 135 viewscontroversial_jack

This world is messed up on 18:09 - Nov 9 by Swanjack10

Capital punishment


Sharia law. Those Saudis have the right idea, off with their heads on a Sunday morning in Castle gardens
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This world is messed up on 19:07 - Nov 9 with 123 viewsSwanjack10

This world is messed up on 18:20 - Nov 9 by controversial_jack

Sharia law. Those Saudis have the right idea, off with their heads on a Sunday morning in Castle gardens


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This world is messed up on 01:10 - Nov 10 with 95 viewsDJack

This world is messed up on 10:15 - Nov 9 by Highjack

If you are honest with yourself would you be comfortable if rehabilitated murderers, rapists, violent criminals or paedophiles were housed in your street and supported to get jobs in your area?

Or would you prefer them to be put near someone else’s house?

Why should they get more help and support to get a job or housing than someone who hasn’t been a criminal? The rest of us don’t get a “support network” to help us along in life. Why should they get an advantage over the rest of us?


If you are honest with yourself would you be comfortable if rehabilitated murderers, rapists, violent criminals or paedophiles were housed in your street and supported to get jobs in your area?
If they were rehabilitated then it is ok.


Or would you prefer them to be put near someone else’s house?
See answer above.

Why should they get more help and support to get a job or housing than someone who hasn’t been a criminal? The rest of us don’t get a “support network” to help us along in life.
Yes you did, you got free education and if you lost your job you would have claimed dole.


Why should they get an advantage over the rest of us?
Look at the crying snowflake . Complaining that "he's had 30 baked beans and I only had 25!"...Do you want rehabilitated citizens contributing to the economy or do you want us all to be paying for the VERY expensive incarceration of those who have got lost in life.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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