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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins 12:26 - Nov 28 with 7401 viewswestwalesed

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Impending financial doom whatever Brexit outcome we have.

What they fail to understand is that many Leavers like myself knew that leaving the EU would leave the country poorer in the short term. It was about more than that.

But the deal will be rightly rejected, we will have a new Referendum, the Leave vote will be deliberately split with three options (Deal, No Deal, Remain) and we will end up Remaining.

Then all the thicko-inbreds from ghastly places like the North East and the Welsh Valleys can jolly well get back in their boxes.

Ruthlessly crushed.

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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 17:54 - Nov 29 with 1045 viewsBatterseajack

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 17:31 - Nov 29 by Jango

He’s biased battersea. Just because you are obsessed with the EU and want to believe every bit of negativity you read about Brexit, doesn’t mean he isn’t biased. Impossible to take anything you say serious when you’re so one sided.


Just because you say it doesn't make it so.

Its like a flat earther dismissing me out of hand as biased because i believe the world to be round.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:11 - Nov 29 with 1016 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 17:50 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

Is that Treasury you refer to the same that predicted armageddon upon a Leave vote occuring?


They use modelling systems. Economics isn’t a science - the methodology may be flawed but it isn’t “one-sided”.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:21 - Nov 29 with 1011 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:11 - Nov 29 by WarwickHunt

They use modelling systems. Economics isn’t a science - the methodology may be flawed but it isn’t “one-sided”.


Ah they use modelling systems.

Given their modelling systems are a bit shit given they were wayyyyyy out then you're accepting they are incompetent and not "one sided".
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:23 - Nov 29 with 1011 viewsHighjack

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 16:29 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

Brexit latest:

Weather forecasters are biased. They’re information is based on historic data and have no way of telling the future without making assumptions. It could be 25 degree tomorrow but they won’t say that because they’re seasonally biased.


Weather forecasters openly admit they can only reliably forecast the weather for the next 60 hour period. Even then they are inaccurate around 40% of the time. Even with all their satellites and weather stations and advanced prediction models and experts like Piers Corbyn they can't get it right.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:28 - Nov 29 with 1006 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:23 - Nov 29 by Highjack

Weather forecasters openly admit they can only reliably forecast the weather for the next 60 hour period. Even then they are inaccurate around 40% of the time. Even with all their satellites and weather stations and advanced prediction models and experts like Piers Corbyn they can't get it right.


Commercial forecasting tends to be a lot more accurate then weather forecasts for news.

One brings in more money than the other.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:33 - Nov 29 with 1003 viewsBatterseajack

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:23 - Nov 29 by Highjack

Weather forecasters openly admit they can only reliably forecast the weather for the next 60 hour period. Even then they are inaccurate around 40% of the time. Even with all their satellites and weather stations and advanced prediction models and experts like Piers Corbyn they can't get it right.


So would you ignore a storm warning if the met office issued one?
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:42 - Nov 29 with 1000 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:33 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

So would you ignore a storm warning if the met office issued one?


If the Met Office repeatedly claimed a storm was coming when there was only a little bit of rain then issued a "storm warning" on a day you had to go out... would you stay at home?
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:51 - Nov 29 with 996 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:21 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

Ah they use modelling systems.

Given their modelling systems are a bit shit given they were wayyyyyy out then you're accepting they are incompetent and not "one sided".


Comprehension not your strong point, Bluey?

I was responding to the “one-sided” and biased nonsense.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 19:00 - Nov 29 with 989 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:51 - Nov 29 by WarwickHunt

Comprehension not your strong point, Bluey?

I was responding to the “one-sided” and biased nonsense.


There are two options though.

1) Their modelling systems are woefully inaccurate - in which case nothing they say can be taken at face value.

2) They are indeed one-sided and biased.

I'd suggest the first option is worse than the latter.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 19:08 - Nov 29 with 982 viewsexiledclaseboy

The “project fear” currently being carried out is designed to terrify MPs into ratifying May’s deal cos it’s (apparently) so much better than no deal.

As a self fulfilling prophecy, the initial vote to reject the deal will be followed by a run on the pound, a stock market collapse and the same deal being ratified when it comes back to Parliament more or less unchanged 21 days later.

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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 20:21 - Nov 29 with 949 viewsPozuelosSideys

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 10:24 - Nov 29 by Shaky

Are you saying you have worked as an economist at an investment bank?


The first bit, no. The second bit, yes. The economists are in a lose-lose position most of the time. See Haldane's admission's below (there are a few articles like this one)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/08/not-a-michael-fish-moment-for-e

"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 20:47 - Nov 29 with 930 viewsHighjack

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 18:33 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

So would you ignore a storm warning if the met office issued one?


If they issued a storm warning for a Tuesday fifteen years into the future based on current data I’d take it with a pinch of salt tbh yes.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:08 - Nov 29 with 922 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 20:47 - Nov 29 by Highjack

If they issued a storm warning for a Tuesday fifteen years into the future based on current data I’d take it with a pinch of salt tbh yes.


You’ll be used to it because it’s going to metaphorically piss down every day until then.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:14 - Nov 29 with 919 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:08 - Nov 29 by WarwickHunt

You’ll be used to it because it’s going to metaphorically piss down every day until then.


Will there be another recession and emergency budget like those after the referendum result?
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:18 - Nov 29 with 915 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:14 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

Will there be another recession and emergency budget like those after the referendum result?


We’ll all be too busy riding golden unicorns on the sunlit uplands to care, Bluey.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:21 - Nov 29 with 911 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:18 - Nov 29 by WarwickHunt

We’ll all be too busy riding golden unicorns on the sunlit uplands to care, Bluey.


Not at all, I'm just curious as to why every prediction of doom that has failed to occur get overlooked.

It's as if some want Brexit to be a disaster to say "told you so" rather than wanting to make the best of things.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:24 - Nov 29 with 906 viewsexiledclaseboy

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:21 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

Not at all, I'm just curious as to why every prediction of doom that has failed to occur get overlooked.

It's as if some want Brexit to be a disaster to say "told you so" rather than wanting to make the best of things.


What about the prediction that negotiating Brexit would be a piece of piss and we’d retain all the benefits of membership without any of those horrible costs and laws?

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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:26 - Nov 29 with 900 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:24 - Nov 29 by exiledclaseboy

What about the prediction that negotiating Brexit would be a piece of piss and we’d retain all the benefits of membership without any of those horrible costs and laws?


Delusional, personally.

It was naive to believe the EU would want to negotiate honestly. Rather than a nice, mutally agreed divorce they are the jilted partner wanting to punish the other for daring to leave them.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:36 - Nov 29 with 881 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:26 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

Delusional, personally.

It was naive to believe the EU would want to negotiate honestly. Rather than a nice, mutally agreed divorce they are the jilted partner wanting to punish the other for daring to leave them.


As one EU minister succintly put it - you had an opt-in with some opt-outs, now you want to opt-out with some opt-ins.

Seriously, what the fûck did you expect from the other 27 countries?
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:42 - Nov 29 with 876 viewsbluey_the_blue

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:36 - Nov 29 by WarwickHunt

As one EU minister succintly put it - you had an opt-in with some opt-outs, now you want to opt-out with some opt-ins.

Seriously, what the fûck did you expect from the other 27 countries?


It's nothing at all to do with that.

EU losing one of very few net contributors. They need money to fund those taking. Germans aren't going to be happy paying more tax to take up the slack of us leaving. Besides, as stated the other day the problem with EU is nations aren't giving up enough control to EU.

EU could agree a deal beneficial to both sides if they wanted to. "Hard border"? Non-issue until Varadkar was elected in which case it became a major problem.

No, EU would rather have a shit deal even if it affected them adversely. Need to send a message to any other nations thinking of leaving. British view is do what's perceived to help us in the future, EU can do whatever. EU view is f*ck UK, can't have you being successful outside us.

We've had so much bs about how things will hit Britain, latest being security. Yeah, given EU currently benefits by us sharing Five Eyes intelligence it's not like we lead in that area or anything.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:43 - Nov 29 with 874 viewsexiledclaseboy

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:42 - Nov 29 by bluey_the_blue

It's nothing at all to do with that.

EU losing one of very few net contributors. They need money to fund those taking. Germans aren't going to be happy paying more tax to take up the slack of us leaving. Besides, as stated the other day the problem with EU is nations aren't giving up enough control to EU.

EU could agree a deal beneficial to both sides if they wanted to. "Hard border"? Non-issue until Varadkar was elected in which case it became a major problem.

No, EU would rather have a shit deal even if it affected them adversely. Need to send a message to any other nations thinking of leaving. British view is do what's perceived to help us in the future, EU can do whatever. EU view is f*ck UK, can't have you being successful outside us.

We've had so much bs about how things will hit Britain, latest being security. Yeah, given EU currently benefits by us sharing Five Eyes intelligence it's not like we lead in that area or anything.


You are genuinely delusional and off your trolley.

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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 22:18 - Nov 29 with 851 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 21:43 - Nov 29 by exiledclaseboy

You are genuinely delusional and off your trolley.


Beat me to it.
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 22:31 - Nov 29 with 841 viewsthe_oracle

Is there anything , from any report, forecast etc etc that a brexiter believes about life post Brexit?
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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 22:44 - Nov 29 with 835 viewspikeypaul

The usual replies from the remoaners with absolutely no content or reasons just insults.

That is all they have.

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Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 23:03 - Nov 29 with 823 viewsWarwickHunt

Project Fear Mark 2 Begins on 22:44 - Nov 29 by pikeypaul

The usual replies from the remoaners with absolutely no content or reasons just insults.

That is all they have.

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