| This Week Was Needed 18:58 - Dec 1 with 7240 views | TheKirkyLife |
Good for perspective. Our team isn't the finished article and neither is Mr. Potter.
I think he's dug this hole himself to be fair. An unsettled starting eleven, a keeper who has been robbed of all his confidence following the most ridiculous benching I've seen in all my years as a Swans fan and an absurd determination to be consistent in remaining inconsistent.
Am I panicking? No.
We're sure to make more moves in January both ways and I feel like a consolidation year was needed. Would I like to have been back in the Premier League after one season? Of course I would. Then again the heart of our squad was sold at the county market in Summer - we wouldn't survive more than a year.
We were on the scoresheet in some way in all three matches so it's not like we went down without a fight. Another positive to take is that we were honestly the architects of our own undoing vs Norwich and West Brom. If we had drawn those two games and lost against Derby we'd only be two points better off but I bet people would be a lot happier than what they are now.
Rather than point fingers, let's remember what these guys have done in the Swansea name so far this season. Not been this proud to support the club since Monk's Wonder Year. YJB. |  | | |  |
| This Week Was Needed on 20:45 - Dec 1 with 3692 views | Kilkennyjack |
I thought Monk ruined our famous attractive style.
This team is Huw doing things on the cheap, dressed up as giving younsters a go. Dont let him get away with it.
We are also paying proven players, whilst chosing not to play them. Why ?
Lets hope we dont all regret this short sighted and stupid decision. |  |
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| This Week Was Needed on 21:17 - Dec 1 with 3636 views | Croftyjack |
| This Week Was Needed on 20:45 - Dec 1 by Kilkennyjack |
I thought Monk ruined our famous attractive style.
This team is Huw doing things on the cheap, dressed up as giving younsters a go. Dont let him get away with it.
We are also paying proven players, whilst chosing not to play them. Why ?
Lets hope we dont all regret this short sighted and stupid decision. |
Understand what you mean as kills the Billy big bollox attitude but it's not as easy as clicking the fingers and reset back to being good again. |  | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 21:32 - Dec 1 with 3597 views | A_Fans_Dad |
"I think he's dug this hole himself to be fair. An unsettled starting eleven, a keeper who has been robbed of all his confidence following the most ridiculous benching I've seen in all my years as a Swans fan and an absurd determination to be consistent in remaining inconsistent. "
Robbed of all confidence is the worrying part.
Most of his youngsters he inherited from the U23s and they already played the old "Swansea Way" with quick attacking passes, high press and all playing for each other and they all new what they were doing.
They started out that way when they joined the 1st team, at this point that cohesion is no linger quite so obvious.
They have started suffering the way our teams of the past suffered with loss of basic skills like passing, trapping, leaving acres of space for the opposition, not defending set pieces, poor tackling and an apparent lack of fitness of some players (also like England against Iceland in the Euros).
Mr Potter needs to turn it around PDQ if he wants to prevent a real slide. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 01:26 - Dec 2 with 3433 views | builthjack |
We are a lower half Championship team. Not Potters fault, as we have lower half Championship players. If you are going to blame anyone blame those tosspots who sold the club, and those fakers who bought it without a pot to pee in |  |
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| This Week Was Needed on 01:43 - Dec 2 with 3422 views | majorraglan |
| This Week Was Needed on 01:26 - Dec 2 by builthjack |
We are a lower half Championship team. Not Potters fault, as we have lower half Championship players. If you are going to blame anyone blame those tosspots who sold the club, and those fakers who bought it without a pot to pee in |
I tend to agree. Ever so slghtly below mid table, Eight points off the play offs and eight points above the last relegation place. The team is capable of playing good football, but it is currently coming up short in a few areas. I can’t see much changing unless the club offloads the big earners which may free up resources for GP to strengthen his squad. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 13:55 - Dec 2 with 3256 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 01:26 - Dec 2 by builthjack |
We are a lower half Championship team. Not Potters fault, as we have lower half Championship players. If you are going to blame anyone blame those tosspots who sold the club, and those fakers who bought it without a pot to pee in |
Some reality at last
What I got to laugh about, is these posters that are critical of Potter in the way he picks the players and plays the game, never come out to say who they think would be a better manager
Potter has been given an impossible task created by the ones that sold their soul for the mighty dollar and for me can’t think of any manager that can do the job any better
That last sentence may be strange to posters that know me, as I have been critical of many managers in the past. But this time the situation is very much different and dire that hasn’t been the case for a long time
Myself I think Potter would have done an excellent job if he keeps Swansea in the Championship even if it’s one place above the bottom three | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 14:15 - Dec 2 with 3244 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 21:32 - Dec 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
"I think he's dug this hole himself to be fair. An unsettled starting eleven, a keeper who has been robbed of all his confidence following the most ridiculous benching I've seen in all my years as a Swans fan and an absurd determination to be consistent in remaining inconsistent. "
Robbed of all confidence is the worrying part.
Most of his youngsters he inherited from the U23s and they already played the old "Swansea Way" with quick attacking passes, high press and all playing for each other and they all new what they were doing.
They started out that way when they joined the 1st team, at this point that cohesion is no linger quite so obvious.
They have started suffering the way our teams of the past suffered with loss of basic skills like passing, trapping, leaving acres of space for the opposition, not defending set pieces, poor tackling and an apparent lack of fitness of some players (also like England against Iceland in the Euros).
Mr Potter needs to turn it around PDQ if he wants to prevent a real slide. |
Tell me “what hole as Potter dug for himself” then
Don’t tell me that you are that deluded that Swansea can be up there in or near the play offs, with the team at Potters disposal are you
One of the main reason that Swansea came down last season was that the mid field at best was piss poor and nothing has been to address with that problem
You can’t have a player like Fer anywhere near the squad, a player that only plays one good game in ten, but that is what Potter has got to put up with
Players that are inconsistent to say the best
In other words players that are not ready or even not good enough to play in the Championship
Swansea yesterday were playing with six or seven young or inexperience players. Most clubs would never think of playing that number all at once, but introduce them say one or two at a time
Mixed messages were coming out about the signing of Ryan Woods of Brentford in whether or not Swansea were in for him. But without a doubt it’s a player like him with Championship experience that’s more than ever needed right now
Look at the two goals yesterday which proves my point, as Wilson had all the time and space to plant those goals into the back of the net | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 14:32 - Dec 2 with 3219 views | jackrmee |
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"I think he's dug this hole himself to be fair. An unsettled starting eleven, a keeper who has been robbed of all his confidence following the most ridiculous benching I've seen in all my years as a Swans fan and an absurd determination to be consistent in remaining inconsistent. "
Robbed of all confidence is the worrying part.
Most of his youngsters he inherited from the U23s and they already played the old "Swansea Way" with quick attacking passes, high press and all playing for each other and they all new what they were doing.
They started out that way when they joined the 1st team, at this point that cohesion is no linger quite so obvious.
They have started suffering the way our teams of the past suffered with loss of basic skills like passing, trapping, leaving acres of space for the opposition, not defending set pieces, poor tackling and an apparent lack of fitness of some players (also like England against Iceland in the Euros).
Mr Potter needs to turn it around PDQ if he wants to prevent a real slide. |
You're all talking as if Potter is a one trick pony who's only plan is to play "The Swansea Way".
He is much more than that and his tactics are complex. He isn't just putting players out and telling them to pass pass pass and play like you did in the u23s.
He's trying to get them to do more things, which is why it's not working seamlessly.
These u23s may not have what it takes to play how GP wants. They weren't on a plate and ready and waiting to fit in perfectly to a system we are going to play week in week out like you seem to suggest.
Players don't "lose basic skills like passing". That's confidence. It will return. |  |
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| This Week Was Needed on 15:10 - Dec 2 with 3193 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| This Week Was Needed on 14:15 - Dec 2 by valleyboy |
Tell me “what hole as Potter dug for himself” then
Don’t tell me that you are that deluded that Swansea can be up there in or near the play offs, with the team at Potters disposal are you
One of the main reason that Swansea came down last season was that the mid field at best was piss poor and nothing has been to address with that problem
You can’t have a player like Fer anywhere near the squad, a player that only plays one good game in ten, but that is what Potter has got to put up with
Players that are inconsistent to say the best
In other words players that are not ready or even not good enough to play in the Championship
Swansea yesterday were playing with six or seven young or inexperience players. Most clubs would never think of playing that number all at once, but introduce them say one or two at a time
Mixed messages were coming out about the signing of Ryan Woods of Brentford in whether or not Swansea were in for him. But without a doubt it’s a player like him with Championship experience that’s more than ever needed right now
Look at the two goals yesterday which proves my point, as Wilson had all the time and space to plant those goals into the back of the net |
Sorry, I am not the one that said he dug a hole. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:16 - Dec 2 with 3188 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 14:32 - Dec 2 by jackrmee |
You're all talking as if Potter is a one trick pony who's only plan is to play "The Swansea Way".
He is much more than that and his tactics are complex. He isn't just putting players out and telling them to pass pass pass and play like you did in the u23s.
He's trying to get them to do more things, which is why it's not working seamlessly.
These u23s may not have what it takes to play how GP wants. They weren't on a plate and ready and waiting to fit in perfectly to a system we are going to play week in week out like you seem to suggest.
Players don't "lose basic skills like passing". That's confidence. It will return. |
“The Swansea way”
High 60% or even low 70% and not even getting all three points
I’d rather watch paint dry
I would even go and say it was the demise of Swansea staying in the Premier League in that they never found an alternative way of playing
Opposing teams allowed Swansea to play this “go nowhere” type of football, but stopped them when it came to the last third of the pitch
Just watch this game on the box right now with both Arsenal and Spurs on roughly the same amount of possession, but what a difference in entertainment value.
Yes of course there were strange decisions made for manager, but it wasn’t down to all of that, but I would put it down to the type of football played in that Swansea never came up with a better/different type of football | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:17 - Dec 2 with 3183 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| This Week Was Needed on 14:32 - Dec 2 by jackrmee |
You're all talking as if Potter is a one trick pony who's only plan is to play "The Swansea Way".
He is much more than that and his tactics are complex. He isn't just putting players out and telling them to pass pass pass and play like you did in the u23s.
He's trying to get them to do more things, which is why it's not working seamlessly.
These u23s may not have what it takes to play how GP wants. They weren't on a plate and ready and waiting to fit in perfectly to a system we are going to play week in week out like you seem to suggest.
Players don't "lose basic skills like passing". That's confidence. It will return. |
You seem to have missed the part that the Fan's early optimism was from the games at the beginning of the season, when the boys were playing exactly as they had been playing for the last 18 months to 2 years and winning.
So when we are playing well let's change it all up and wreck it does not sound like a good philosophy to me even if it does to you.
To try and introduce a 3 to 5 year program in 5 months is a bit steep.
We have to pray that he will eventually get it to work or if he can't then realises it is not working. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:20 - Dec 2 with 3182 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:10 - Dec 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
Sorry, I am not the one that said he dug a hole. |
Somebody posting in your name was it
4th posting down, someone has written “I think Potter has dug this hole for himself”
Strange | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:40 - Dec 2 with 3173 views | jackrmee |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:17 - Dec 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
You seem to have missed the part that the Fan's early optimism was from the games at the beginning of the season, when the boys were playing exactly as they had been playing for the last 18 months to 2 years and winning.
So when we are playing well let's change it all up and wreck it does not sound like a good philosophy to me even if it does to you.
To try and introduce a 3 to 5 year program in 5 months is a bit steep.
We have to pray that he will eventually get it to work or if he can't then realises it is not working. |
"The boys were playing exactly the same as the last 18 months to 2 years"?
What. the drivvel that got us relegated? What the hell are you on about? The football was nothing like that. It was the same as it is now, trying new things.
"3 to 5 year program in 5 months"?
Again, what the hell are you talking about? If a program is going to take 5 years, it means it may take 5 years to learn and perfect it. It doesn't mean that you only implement some of it now and then wait until the 5th year to teach the players some other things. | |
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| This Week Was Needed on 15:41 - Dec 2 with 3172 views | jack247 |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:16 - Dec 2 by valleyboy |
“The Swansea way”
High 60% or even low 70% and not even getting all three points
I’d rather watch paint dry
I would even go and say it was the demise of Swansea staying in the Premier League in that they never found an alternative way of playing
Opposing teams allowed Swansea to play this “go nowhere” type of football, but stopped them when it came to the last third of the pitch
Just watch this game on the box right now with both Arsenal and Spurs on roughly the same amount of possession, but what a difference in entertainment value.
Yes of course there were strange decisions made for manager, but it wasn’t down to all of that, but I would put it down to the type of football played in that Swansea never came up with a better/different type of football |
We did find an alternative way of playing. In fact it coincided with the start of our demise.
The ‘Swansea way’ was the football we played under Martinez, Rodgers and Laudrup. The stuff served up under Bradley, Clement and Carvahal was about as far from it as you could get. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 00:02 - Dec 3 with 3082 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:41 - Dec 2 by jack247 |
We did find an alternative way of playing. In fact it coincided with the start of our demise.
The ‘Swansea way’ was the football we played under Martinez, Rodgers and Laudrup. The stuff served up under Bradley, Clement and Carvahal was about as far from it as you could get. |
Cast your mind back when Garry Monk was in charge
The biggest criticism against Gary Monk by most oh here and on other forums was it was he that changed this so called Swansea way
Was it any coincidence that Swansea had their best season in the Premier League when he was first in charge and could it be because that he changed the way Swansea played
Yes he didn’t last long afterwards, but that was to do with “off the field activities” in where because of what happened he lost the dressing room for backing the chairman instead of standing up for one of his players
Watching Birmingham playing these days, I see that he seems to be playing a system he adopted at Swansea and looks like it’s paying off. Especially with the way Birmingham is climbing up the Championship table | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 00:45 - Dec 3 with 3064 views | Glyn1 |
| This Week Was Needed on 15:20 - Dec 2 by valleyboy |
Somebody posting in your name was it
4th posting down, someone has written “I think Potter has dug this hole for himself”
Strange |
Not strange at all. It was TheKirkyLife in the original post who wrote that Potter has dug a hole for himself. A fans Dad just quoted it, just like you did. [Post edited 3 Dec 2018 0:52]
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| This Week Was Needed on 05:58 - Dec 3 with 3008 views | jack247 |
| This Week Was Needed on 00:02 - Dec 3 by valleyboy |
Cast your mind back when Garry Monk was in charge
The biggest criticism against Gary Monk by most oh here and on other forums was it was he that changed this so called Swansea way
Was it any coincidence that Swansea had their best season in the Premier League when he was first in charge and could it be because that he changed the way Swansea played
Yes he didn’t last long afterwards, but that was to do with “off the field activities” in where because of what happened he lost the dressing room for backing the chairman instead of standing up for one of his players
Watching Birmingham playing these days, I see that he seems to be playing a system he adopted at Swansea and looks like it’s paying off. Especially with the way Birmingham is climbing up the Championship table |
Garry Monk did change the Swansea way.
Yes, he achieved our highest finish in his first season before he had the opportunity to really dismantle that squad and rebuild in his own mould.
He proceeded to get us playing shit, unimaginative, losing football and got sacked. We were then in a position where we didn’t have the players to play that style of football, we played identikit lower half PL football. When you don’t have a unique style, that players unwanted elsewhere can flourish with, it becomes more about finances. That’s eventually going to end in relegation as well as negative football for smaller PL teams.
Bringing the manager who started our PL demise into it only weakens your argument and how often do you watch Birmingham? | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 07:55 - Dec 3 with 2968 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| This Week Was Needed on 05:58 - Dec 3 by jack247 |
Garry Monk did change the Swansea way.
Yes, he achieved our highest finish in his first season before he had the opportunity to really dismantle that squad and rebuild in his own mould.
He proceeded to get us playing shit, unimaginative, losing football and got sacked. We were then in a position where we didn’t have the players to play that style of football, we played identikit lower half PL football. When you don’t have a unique style, that players unwanted elsewhere can flourish with, it becomes more about finances. That’s eventually going to end in relegation as well as negative football for smaller PL teams.
Bringing the manager who started our PL demise into it only weakens your argument and how often do you watch Birmingham? |
He said himself on Owain Tudur Jones podcast that he wanted to change the way we played as the "game had moved on".
Can't stand the tw*t. |  | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 09:15 - Dec 3 with 2936 views | jack247 |
| This Week Was Needed on 07:55 - Dec 3 by 34dfgdf54 |
He said himself on Owain Tudur Jones podcast that he wanted to change the way we played as the "game had moved on".
Can't stand the tw*t. |
The man who started our on pitch decline. Seemed a really odd example to use when arguing against the kind of football we used to play. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 09:39 - Dec 3 with 2923 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 09:15 - Dec 3 by jack247 |
The man who started our on pitch decline. Seemed a really odd example to use when arguing against the kind of football we used to play. |
Well you had missed the key point in who had started to get the Swans to play differently
The Swansea way started by accident after a poor start in the Championship
Tell me why you think it came about | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:06 - Dec 3 with 2904 views | jack247 |
| This Week Was Needed on 09:39 - Dec 3 by valleyboy |
Well you had missed the key point in who had started to get the Swans to play differently
The Swansea way started by accident after a poor start in the Championship
Tell me why you think it came about |
It started under Martinez and Reeves before we reached the Championship. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:07 - Dec 3 with 2901 views | valleyboy |
| This Week Was Needed on 09:15 - Dec 3 by jack247 |
The man who started our on pitch decline. Seemed a really odd example to use when arguing against the kind of football we used to play. |
You want to speak to Everton supporters about Martinez playing the “Swansea way” up there and see what they will tell you
Most will tell you that they could have fallen asleep for 15 minutes and wouldn't have missed a thing
Yes they then had Sam Allardyce afterwards and although he saved them from relegation, he went the same way because of his boring football
Most boring football in the history of football played at Goodison most will tell you and were glad to get rid of both of them
If ever you want to see in how football has moved on. Then watch teams in the top half of the Premier League this season and you will see that this “Swansea way” wouldn’t survive against them | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:15 - Dec 3 with 2897 views | jack247 |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:07 - Dec 3 by valleyboy |
You want to speak to Everton supporters about Martinez playing the “Swansea way” up there and see what they will tell you
Most will tell you that they could have fallen asleep for 15 minutes and wouldn't have missed a thing
Yes they then had Sam Allardyce afterwards and although he saved them from relegation, he went the same way because of his boring football
Most boring football in the history of football played at Goodison most will tell you and were glad to get rid of both of them
If ever you want to see in how football has moved on. Then watch teams in the top half of the Premier League this season and you will see that this “Swansea way” wouldn’t survive against them |
That’s utterly irrelevant. I’m not particularly fond of him as a man, but it’s undeniable that he started off our most successful period of the last 35 years, if not ever, playing that brand of football. Before we got to the Championship.
Without that, we’d quite likely never have left league one, but crack on if you want to put Garry Monk on a pedestal. | | | |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:23 - Dec 3 with 2888 views | WarwickHunt |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:07 - Dec 3 by valleyboy |
You want to speak to Everton supporters about Martinez playing the “Swansea way” up there and see what they will tell you
Most will tell you that they could have fallen asleep for 15 minutes and wouldn't have missed a thing
Yes they then had Sam Allardyce afterwards and although he saved them from relegation, he went the same way because of his boring football
Most boring football in the history of football played at Goodison most will tell you and were glad to get rid of both of them
If ever you want to see in how football has moved on. Then watch teams in the top half of the Premier League this season and you will see that this “Swansea way” wouldn’t survive against them |
Small skilful players keeping possession, passing and moving, playing triangles. That would never work...
If you want an example of dinosaur football in the PL, look no further than Mourinho's big lumps looking increasingly cumbersome each passing* week.
*did you see what I did there? [Post edited 3 Dec 2018 10:45]
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| This Week Was Needed on 10:30 - Dec 3 with 2882 views | theloneranger |
| This Week Was Needed on 10:23 - Dec 3 by WarwickHunt |
Small skilful players keeping possession, passing and moving, playing triangles. That would never work...
If you want an example of dinosaur football in the PL, look no further than Mourinho's big lumps looking increasingly cumbersome each passing* week.
*did you see what I did there? [Post edited 3 Dec 2018 10:45]
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"passing* week"
That's a bit deep for a Monday morning 😂 |  |
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