| Worst pensions in the developed World 16:43 - Dec 14 with 2856 views | trampie |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 16:51 - Dec 14 with 2318 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Governments for decades have ignored our ageing population and issues such as pensions and social care. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 17:06 - Dec 14 with 2295 views | Highjack |
Dot cotton seems to be getting by alright. She can afford to smoke 80 a day and still have enough for a swift gallon of tomato juice in the vic every evening. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 17:12 - Dec 14 with 2280 views | trampie |
Thatcher won the war, her greatest achievement was creating NuLabour and now most of the electorate don't have a choice [as its mainly Labour and Tories in England]. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 17:55 - Dec 14 with 2243 views | LeonWasGod |
Are those figures in the OP right? Piss poor if so. How do the Germans and Frenchies get on?
Pile it high, sell it cheap society. And that seems to include us. |  | | |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:17 - Dec 14 with 2206 views | Loyal |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 17:06 - Dec 14 by Highjack |
Dot cotton seems to be getting by alright. She can afford to smoke 80 a day and still have enough for a swift gallon of tomato juice in the vic every evening. |
I would seriously smash her back doors in after a rub down with stork margarine. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:27 - Dec 14 with 2192 views | Highjack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:17 - Dec 14 by Loyal |
I would seriously smash her back doors in after a rub down with stork margarine. |
Oh I say
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:45 - Dec 14 with 2155 views | longlostjack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 17:55 - Dec 14 by LeonWasGod |
Are those figures in the OP right? Piss poor if so. How do the Germans and Frenchies get on?
Pile it high, sell it cheap society. And that seems to include us. |
I distrust international comparisons of many economic statistics. There are so many factors that can lead to a misleading picture. The concept of “average” is flawed by it’s very nature. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:57 - Dec 14 with 2140 views | longlostjack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:27 - Dec 14 by Highjack |
Oh I say
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 19:01 - Dec 14 with 2130 views | LeonWasGod |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:45 - Dec 14 by longlostjack |
I distrust international comparisons of many economic statistics. There are so many factors that can lead to a misleading picture. The concept of “average” is flawed by it’s very nature. |
Quite. H/she’s taken the mandatory pension only too. When you look at their data source, the column including voluntary schemes sees us move off the bottom, although still behind the OECD average.
It does show that we provide sh*t state pensions with the government trying to force the responsibility of contributions onto us. That’s the headline message.
But as it’s as a percentage of average wages, how do the different countries compare in terms of wages? As someone says in the comments, you wouldn’t want the Spanish one (implying it’s worth diddly squat). How far does each pension go - what’s the difference in the cost of living, etc? How much tax do people pay in the different countries? If we’re high, then the govt are taking this piss. If we’re low you can understand why they want us to contribute more. Etc.... | | | |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 19:19 - Dec 14 with 2114 views | Highjack |
Mr Oppoloppoloppodus should have been paying into her pension for all the years she was working at the laundrette. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 19:58 - Dec 14 with 2085 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 18:45 - Dec 14 by longlostjack |
I distrust international comparisons of many economic statistics. There are so many factors that can lead to a misleading picture. The concept of “average” is flawed by it’s very nature. |
On average people have 1.9 legs. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 20:50 - Dec 14 with 2038 views | jack2jack |
Well that's it, no more, if they think I'm busting my ass for that, they can think again, first thing Monday I quit.  |  | | |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 08:50 - Dec 15 with 1906 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
For decades Greece offered one of the most generous pension offerings in the world. How is that going for them? |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:39 - Dec 15 with 1853 views | Highjack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 08:50 - Dec 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
For decades Greece offered one of the most generous pension offerings in the world. How is that going for them? |
Mr Oppoloppodoppodous is Greek and Dot had to carry on working into her nineties. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:39 - Dec 15 with 1853 views | controversial_jack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 08:50 - Dec 15 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
For decades Greece offered one of the most generous pension offerings in the world. How is that going for them? |
The Netherlands have the best pension and they seem to be doing just fine |  | | |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:55 - Dec 15 with 1844 views | felixstowe_jack |
Hardly comparing like with like.
The Germans pay 18.8% of thier wages towards their pensions and 8% of their wages towards healthcare. A total of 26.8%
In the uk we pay national insurance of about 11% to cover the cost of our pensions and healthcare.
If you are happy to pay NI at 26.8% then I am sure the uk could pay the same pension as the Germans.
Alternatively you could pay an additional 15% into a private pension pot. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:58 - Dec 15 with 1842 views | PozuelosSideys |
Not being funny, but how about posting all the info and not just snippets to run your agenda?
The numbers quoted in the OP are referring to State pension provision only. They DO NOT include any private provision you make. If they are included, then it brings the UK up to the average.
Lets not forget, higher state pensions = higher taxes. I will also guarantee the younger generations and lower-middle income earners would pay for this, not the rich end of the scale.
If you wish to run an agenda, i suggest you start looking at teh significant numeber of civil servants who sit on rather lucrative DB final salary/career average schemes which leave local councils with absolutely massive pension shortfalls. Taxpayer funded obviously. Private businesses did away with these years ago.
The pension environment in the Uk has always been historically different to most other countries. This isnt news. Although if the Governments continue to lower the annual allowances and caps or continue to slash tax relief on them, fill ur boots. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:00 - Dec 15 with 1837 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:55 - Dec 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Hardly comparing like with like.
The Germans pay 18.8% of thier wages towards their pensions and 8% of their wages towards healthcare. A total of 26.8%
In the uk we pay national insurance of about 11% to cover the cost of our pensions and healthcare.
If you are happy to pay NI at 26.8% then I am sure the uk could pay the same pension as the Germans.
Alternatively you could pay an additional 15% into a private pension pot. |
To be fair mate, i dont disagree with most of what you said, but i doubt most average people can afford to lump 15% into a pension which may well end up losing value over time | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:06 - Dec 15 with 1829 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:58 - Dec 15 by PozuelosSideys |
Not being funny, but how about posting all the info and not just snippets to run your agenda?
The numbers quoted in the OP are referring to State pension provision only. They DO NOT include any private provision you make. If they are included, then it brings the UK up to the average.
Lets not forget, higher state pensions = higher taxes. I will also guarantee the younger generations and lower-middle income earners would pay for this, not the rich end of the scale.
If you wish to run an agenda, i suggest you start looking at teh significant numeber of civil servants who sit on rather lucrative DB final salary/career average schemes which leave local councils with absolutely massive pension shortfalls. Taxpayer funded obviously. Private businesses did away with these years ago.
The pension environment in the Uk has always been historically different to most other countries. This isnt news. Although if the Governments continue to lower the annual allowances and caps or continue to slash tax relief on them, fill ur boots. |
Civil servants don’t work for local councils. |  |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:13 - Dec 15 with 1819 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:06 - Dec 15 by exiledclaseboy |
Civil servants don’t work for local councils. |
Oops. You are correct of course. Civil Service would have been more accurate. I am still drunk. However, point still stands.
Didnt they slash the db schemes at the DVLA a while back? | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:18 - Dec 15 with 1810 views | Highjack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:06 - Dec 15 by exiledclaseboy |
Civil servants don’t work for local councils. |
Wasn’t Ian Beale in the Walford Council at one point? | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:28 - Dec 15 with 1796 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:13 - Dec 15 by PozuelosSideys |
Oops. You are correct of course. Civil Service would have been more accurate. I am still drunk. However, point still stands.
Didnt they slash the db schemes at the DVLA a while back? |
Civil service would have been equally inaccurate.
I’m on an average salary pension now I think. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:34 - Dec 15 with 1787 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:28 - Dec 15 by exiledclaseboy |
Civil service would have been equally inaccurate.
I’m on an average salary pension now I think. |
Either way, taxpayer funded.
Career average is still significantly better than the shite DC the rest of us get served up these days anyway | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:38 - Dec 15 with 1783 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:55 - Dec 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Hardly comparing like with like.
The Germans pay 18.8% of thier wages towards their pensions and 8% of their wages towards healthcare. A total of 26.8%
In the uk we pay national insurance of about 11% to cover the cost of our pensions and healthcare.
If you are happy to pay NI at 26.8% then I am sure the uk could pay the same pension as the Germans.
Alternatively you could pay an additional 15% into a private pension pot. |
Good post, our governments over many decades have underfunded pensions and social care.
At the same time governments have removed some of the tax and other incentives for businesses to run pension schemes which contributed to the decline in both number and value of employer pension schemes. | |
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| Worst pensions in the developed World on 11:52 - Dec 15 with 1767 views | controversial_jack |
| Worst pensions in the developed World on 10:55 - Dec 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Hardly comparing like with like.
The Germans pay 18.8% of thier wages towards their pensions and 8% of their wages towards healthcare. A total of 26.8%
In the uk we pay national insurance of about 11% to cover the cost of our pensions and healthcare.
If you are happy to pay NI at 26.8% then I am sure the uk could pay the same pension as the Germans.
Alternatively you could pay an additional 15% into a private pension pot. |
15% of your wages, unless you're on a super salary will give you peanuts when you retire, they are not like final salary pensions. | | | |
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