| Other championship clubs 10:19 - Jan 31 with 1879 views | magicdaps10 |
How come all other teams in the top half are looking to strengthen but we are looking to cut the wage bill and create transfer fees incoming?
Why are we so in the shiite compared to others, what have we done so badly compared to other teams especially those relegated in previous seasons?
I just want to see what can be said in defence of the yanks insisting that we have to do this.
As I write this, I see Norwich have just signed someone!
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| Other championship clubs on 10:21 - Jan 31 with 1870 views | waynekerr55 |
Cos they're doing it for the love of the club. |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 10:21 - Jan 31 with 1870 views | KGriz16 |
Because we're still paying Premier League wages whilst on a Championship income?
You can't forget PL TV money was like 80% of our income wasn't it? The other championship teams either have wealthy owners (Stoke for example) or pay moderate wages to players that they can afford.
We're paying a player £100,000 a week ffs. It's laughable. Not to mention - Narsingh, Ayew, etc who we're still all paying some wages too, or are paying transfer fees to. We're paying for our past mistakes. This has been covered numerous times mind lol |  | | |
| Other championship clubs on 10:44 - Jan 31 with 1797 views | AnotherJohn |
| Other championship clubs on 10:21 - Jan 31 by KGriz16 |
Because we're still paying Premier League wages whilst on a Championship income?
You can't forget PL TV money was like 80% of our income wasn't it? The other championship teams either have wealthy owners (Stoke for example) or pay moderate wages to players that they can afford.
We're paying a player £100,000 a week ffs. It's laughable. Not to mention - Narsingh, Ayew, etc who we're still all paying some wages too, or are paying transfer fees to. We're paying for our past mistakes. This has been covered numerous times mind lol |
Against this, our levels of debt were comparatively low at the time of the change of ownership. Yes we have made huge mistakes with player recruitment and contracts, but in a more normal scenario an outside consortium taking over a club would have sufficient resources to get through the cash squeeze that comes with relegation. Just as big a problem as 'past mistakes' is the fact that we were taken over by men of straw, For that the HJ, MM et al carry a heavy responsibility. [Post edited 31 Jan 2019 11:02]
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| Other championship clubs on 10:53 - Jan 31 with 1754 views | hobo |
Because they don't have 40m of parachute money  |  | | |
| Other championship clubs on 11:07 - Jan 31 with 1678 views | sg1912 |
| Other championship clubs on 10:21 - Jan 31 by KGriz16 |
Because we're still paying Premier League wages whilst on a Championship income?
You can't forget PL TV money was like 80% of our income wasn't it? The other championship teams either have wealthy owners (Stoke for example) or pay moderate wages to players that they can afford.
We're paying a player £100,000 a week ffs. It's laughable. Not to mention - Narsingh, Ayew, etc who we're still all paying some wages too, or are paying transfer fees to. We're paying for our past mistakes. This has been covered numerous times mind lol |
Norwich, Stoke, WBA, Villa etc are all paying Premier League wages..
As a club we’re probably seeing less investment since the sale of the club, which makes you beg the question what was the point of selling in the first place? | | | |
| Other championship clubs on 11:18 - Jan 31 with 1633 views | monmouth |
| Other championship clubs on 11:07 - Jan 31 by sg1912 |
Norwich, Stoke, WBA, Villa etc are all paying Premier League wages..
As a club we’re probably seeing less investment since the sale of the club, which makes you beg the question what was the point of selling in the first place? |
You KNOW the answer to that. |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 11:42 - Jan 31 with 1554 views | Badlands |
| Other championship clubs on 11:07 - Jan 31 by sg1912 |
Norwich, Stoke, WBA, Villa etc are all paying Premier League wages..
As a club we’re probably seeing less investment since the sale of the club, which makes you beg the question what was the point of selling in the first place? |
Norwich, Stoke, WBA - larger crowds bringing in an additional £3 million.
Villa have and average crowd of 34,000 -£7 million a year more than us.
Norwich have sold players and car parks to reduce their massive debt and average pay is quoted as £20,000 a week.
WBA last year 'From having almost £40million in cash at the bank nine months ago, the Baggies now find themselves in the red.'
Stoke - 2018
The club also remains heavily in debt, to the tune of £180.683m, but it remains a manageable debt and the majority (£122.7m) is owed to the parent company (Stoke City Holdings Ltd) and no interest is paid on it.
Villa 2018
in breach of FFP 'Aston Villa also still need to find £40million to comply despite a takeover this month.' and owed he Tax man £4 million last year. After 5 years of austerity (Ha!) ad moving the goal posts by selling, selling their car parks and being £45 million down on transfers Villa are now just £40million in debt. |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 11:47 - Jan 31 with 1527 views | AustinIsOurHero |
Villa had the luxury of being bailed out by a billionaire - you know, someone with actual money |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 11:47 - Jan 31 with 1514 views | LeonWasGod |
| Other championship clubs on 11:07 - Jan 31 by sg1912 |
Norwich, Stoke, WBA, Villa etc are all paying Premier League wages..
As a club we’re probably seeing less investment since the sale of the club, which makes you beg the question what was the point of selling in the first place? |
Stoke and WBA have the advantage of parachute payment though - I'm sure if we did, we'd make a real go at trying to get back to the PL 
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| Other championship clubs on 12:01 - Jan 31 with 1453 views | BLAZE |
When did we stop insisting on relegation clauses that meant wage reductions if relegated? Jenkins made a big song and dance about this at one point, insisting he wouldn't jeapordise the future to compete in the now. He wasn't so vocal when he decided to do away with such an approach
Honestly, if at the time we were told (whether it was 3, 4 or 5 years into our Premier league run), that to continue to compete we'd need to do away with such safeguards, and that he wasn't willing to do it, then personally speaking he'd have had my backing and full respect. If it meant relegation sooner than it eventually happened, we would've been in a much healthier position than the mess we find ourselves in now
I suspect such an approach was forgotten around the same time they realised how much money was set to be made. Then it became 'survival at all costs' and we were no different to every other club around us |  | | |
| Other championship clubs on 12:11 - Jan 31 with 1407 views | omarjack |
It's easy.
Most of other clubs are..
A) Run by people who give a sh!t. And actually willing to spend some money from their own pockets if it helps the club and its prosperity.
B) Run by people who know a thing or two about how to manage a business.
Meanwhile, we're being run by mercenaries, scoundrels and worst of all..complete fools.
We sell our best, we replace them with sh!t, we sell our sh!t, we don't replace them because we were paying sh!t players massive wages for some reason and the club itself can't afford a toilet seat with its poor income caused by negligence. And instead of trying to fix the damage done by poor scouting and management with injecting cash from their own pockets like any decent owners would have done (FFP won't f*ck with us any time soon)..we go on a yard sale for our players.
I wouldn't be shocked the least if James is sold for 5 m before the end of the day. [Post edited 31 Jan 2019 12:13]
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| Other championship clubs on 12:20 - Jan 31 with 1358 views | PozuelosSideys |
More concerned we are looking at loaning out players like Jeff rather than cash deals, especially to teams in the same division.
Can understand it with Bony, but Montero will be a loan and Dan James will be a loan with add-ons such as promotion etc with Leeds. That muppet Pearlman will mess it up like he did with Gylfi and we will be screwed over with a sh1t deal.
WTF are they playing at? |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 12:24 - Jan 31 with 1307 views | omarjack |
| Other championship clubs on 12:20 - Jan 31 by PozuelosSideys |
More concerned we are looking at loaning out players like Jeff rather than cash deals, especially to teams in the same division.
Can understand it with Bony, but Montero will be a loan and Dan James will be a loan with add-ons such as promotion etc with Leeds. That muppet Pearlman will mess it up like he did with Gylfi and we will be screwed over with a sh1t deal.
WTF are they playing at? |
If we loan out Montero..just lol. I don't think it'll happen though. Just if the owners really loan him out just to squeeze in few extra quids saved on wages..utterly pathetic.
As for James, we might accept a loan now? Why on earth would we want to give them a freebie already? Hopeless club if that happens. | |
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| Other championship clubs on 12:32 - Jan 31 with 1260 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Other championship clubs on 12:24 - Jan 31 by omarjack |
If we loan out Montero..just lol. I don't think it'll happen though. Just if the owners really loan him out just to squeeze in few extra quids saved on wages..utterly pathetic.
As for James, we might accept a loan now? Why on earth would we want to give them a freebie already? Hopeless club if that happens. |
LOL is the correct word. Was reading earlier that the offer for Jeff is actually a loan, which is completely pointless as he will break down if not managed properly (Potter and his team have done a magnificent job of that so far!!) and we will be back to square one when it happens.
IMO the club are actively looking to cash in on anything of any value. Im hoping to fck that we dont get an offer for Socks by the end of the day - he will be gone too | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Other championship clubs on 12:46 - Jan 31 with 1191 views | omarjack |
| Other championship clubs on 12:32 - Jan 31 by PozuelosSideys |
LOL is the correct word. Was reading earlier that the offer for Jeff is actually a loan, which is completely pointless as he will break down if not managed properly (Potter and his team have done a magnificent job of that so far!!) and we will be back to square one when it happens.
IMO the club are actively looking to cash in on anything of any value. Im hoping to fck that we dont get an offer for Socks by the end of the day - he will be gone too |
Boro might want Ollie if Assombalonga leaves. There is such little time for this to happen so it's unlikely for now. But in the summer, goobye McBurnie, Montero, James, Fer, VDH, probably Rodon and anyone with any real value..oh and for those who will defend the board because we bought Celina for 3 m (such generosity)..I'm saying it now, they only bought him to silence Potter, and to sell him for 5-6 m and make extra profit next summer. I'm 100% certain of that.
We're f*cked, Within 5 years National League level of f*cked mate. [Post edited 31 Jan 2019 12:46]
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| Other championship clubs on 13:17 - Jan 31 with 1105 views | dickythorpe |
Christ almighty ,we were fantastic the other night against 10 men. Why the hell do we want new signings??? [Post edited 31 Jan 2019 13:25]
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| Other championship clubs on 13:23 - Jan 31 with 1075 views | omarjack |
| Other championship clubs on 13:17 - Jan 31 by dickythorpe |
Christ almighty ,we were fantastic the other night against 10 men. Why the hell do we want new signings??? [Post edited 31 Jan 2019 13:25]
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psst..if anything, we need to get rid of 5-6 players, We already have wells of talent with the likes of Baker-Richardson and Biabi. | |
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| Other championship clubs on 13:27 - Jan 31 with 1042 views | trinityann |
This is the time our yank friends should be dipping into their pockets to bring in players for an outside chance of the play offs. This was the next level stuff that Huw Jenkins was boasting about. | | | |
| Other championship clubs on 13:45 - Jan 31 with 989 views | Loyal |
A club cannot be run on income in alone, any one of us can do that, this is an obvious and clear start of the asset stripping of our club. |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 13:55 - Jan 31 with 959 views | PentyrchJack |
Because Judas betrayed the club |  |
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| Other championship clubs on 16:05 - Jan 31 with 827 views | Croftyjack |
Some fans still feel it's the right thing to do...as a football club it certainly ain't as a hedge fund it is..but if I was the investor and can see how close we are to the play offs I would say keep what we need(,Montero,james)and bring 1 or 2 quality loans in... if we don't make it move on all high earners in summer and recruit younger gifted players
Bony understandably can leave ... fine get me wrong if he was playing and scoring I'd hang out but he ain't.
I understood the yanks well into last season but some here still support...like I said in previous posts there will never be an end to overpaid players until you in league 2. | | | |
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