| Ospreys 14:27 - Feb 26 with 19653 views | Banosswan |
Whilst music to the ears of some on here, it's ridiculous to think that the WRU have considered merging them with the Blues, Scarlets or even disbanding altogether! |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:56 - Mar 5 with 2192 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 15:47 - Mar 5 by Lohengrin |
You’re probably a lot like me in missing the old Merit Table days. Regional rugby has been a qualified success if we look just at the results of the National team in the period since its introduction but the damage caused at grass roots level has been immense. The amount of village teams that have folded without the benefit of strong ‘town’ teams in their area has been shocking. |
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| Ospreys on 16:07 - Mar 5 with 2159 views | valleyboy |
| Ospreys on 14:50 - Mar 5 by Darran |
All jokes aside the loss of jobs is going to be dreadful. |
Must be down to Brexit as that is the normal excuse
It’s what happens if a business or a team is not supported
They go bust
Not for one minute do I think there will be that much increase in attendances for this new team. As a lot of Swansea people can’t stick Llanelli people and vice versa
There maybe something to learn in what’s happening to the Ospreys that could very well happen to the Swans |  | | |
| Ospreys on 17:15 - Mar 5 with 2103 views | majorraglan |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:29 - Mar 5 by cymrojack |
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It’s never going to happen, there is no way the English clubs/structure who are trying to ring fence the top Division of their league are going to allow Swansea to waltz in. Swansea RFC do not have the resources to compete at that level.
A couple of years ago I went to watch a Worcester Warriors premiership match, they are light years ahead of any of the Welsh Club sides and far more akin to our regions. | | | |
| Ospreys on 17:21 - Mar 5 with 2091 views | theloneranger |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:29 - Mar 5 by cymrojack |
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Swansea and Cardiff were given the chance in 2000/2001 by the WRU (After the"Rebel Season 1998/99) to join the English Premiership but both clubs never took up the offer. [Post edited 5 Mar 2019 17:24]
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| Ospreys on 17:25 - Mar 5 with 2084 views | majorraglan |
| Ospreys on 10:59 - Mar 5 by Joe_bradshaw |
I'm afraid the Ospreys are basically bankrupt. They have no choice but to merge with the Scarlets even though the Scarlets don't really want it. The Ospreys floated a merger with Cardiff recently but that never got off the ground. The Scarlets would prefer to just swallow up the Ospreys and they hold all the cards in any negotiations. |
I heard something similar today re the finances; I was also told there could be some kind of financial inducement for a North Wales Region to be created.
Sad state of affairs if the Ospreys shutdown or merge as it will leave the Swansea, Neath, Port Talbot, Maesteg and Bridgend areas without their own regional team. The WRU are in my opinion destroying the Premiership and could leave an area which has a rich tradition of producing Welsh internationals without a region. Once something’s gone, it’s going to be very hard to replace. | | | |
| Ospreys on 17:41 - Mar 5 with 2059 views | jackharris |
What is happening is an absolute disgrace and farce. The pre-regionalisation olden days of the Heineken League, with most of the games being played at 2.30pm with the best players are greatly missed. With the likes of Llanelli v The Whites and Neath v Aberavon crowds were good. I remember one game at St Helens the Whites and the scarlets being sell out of over 22,000 there and a lot of fans had to climb over the gates and fences to get in. Those were the days. This new initiative is taking things one step too far.
The WRU own The Gwent Dragons so moving them to North Wales could be done with less of a destructive impact. Nobody is going to be completely happy. Neath, Swansea, etc have already had to amalgamate, forcing another amalgamation on top of that is a joke. Scarlets fans, Whites fans and the All Black fans are not on the same wavelength. The formation of the Neath-Swansea Ospreys was done quite tactfully, with kit being black, etc. This new formation is a car crash..! |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:43 - Mar 5 with 2054 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 17:21 - Mar 5 by theloneranger |
Swansea and Cardiff were given the chance in 2000/2001 by the WRU (After the"Rebel Season 1998/99) to join the English Premiership but both clubs never took up the offer. [Post edited 5 Mar 2019 17:24]
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| Ospreys on 17:43 - Mar 5 with 2051 views | jackharris |
| Ospreys on 17:25 - Mar 5 by majorraglan |
I heard something similar today re the finances; I was also told there could be some kind of financial inducement for a North Wales Region to be created.
Sad state of affairs if the Ospreys shutdown or merge as it will leave the Swansea, Neath, Port Talbot, Maesteg and Bridgend areas without their own regional team. The WRU are in my opinion destroying the Premiership and could leave an area which has a rich tradition of producing Welsh internationals without a region. Once something’s gone, it’s going to be very hard to replace. |
Absolutely those areas you just mentioned produced the major core of the Welsh side that beat England. | |
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| Ospreys on 18:42 - Mar 5 with 1996 views | Joe_bradshaw |
PRB have just issued a statement that basically calls the Ospreys liars.
They say they have minutes of meetings about the merger and signed heads of terms of the merger thrashed out in a meeting last Friday. Their statement is signed by the other three regions, the independent chairman and the WRU.
What a mess. |  |
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| Ospreys on 18:59 - Mar 5 with 1974 views | dickythorpe |
And Loh, let's not forget the " midweek Floodlight Alliance" league.  |  | | |
| Ospreys on 19:05 - Mar 5 with 1961 views | exhmrc1 |
I dont know about going bankrupt. The new chairman sold his shares in the swans for over £10 million | | | |
| Ospreys on 19:08 - Mar 5 with 1953 views | monmouth |
Moffett and Lewis killed welsh rugby between them. It’s in its medium term death throes. This load of inept shit just puts the boot in. Kill the roots, kill the game, it’s just about when. Still, at least they got a shedload of money and a line to build their cvs eh. |  |
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| Ospreys on 19:15 - Mar 5 with 1931 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Ospreys on 19:05 - Mar 5 by exhmrc1 |
I dont know about going bankrupt. The new chairman sold his shares in the swans for over £10 million |
Both the outgoing and incoming chairmen have plenty of money and both have put plenty into the Ospreys.
Neither are willing to continue feeding that particular bottomless pit. | |
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| Ospreys on 19:24 - Mar 5 with 1910 views | Landore_Jack |
Here's a suggestion for the Ospreys. Ask to join the English Premiership. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:03 - Mar 5 with 1863 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 19:24 - Mar 5 by Landore_Jack |
Here's a suggestion for the Ospreys. Ask to join the English Premiership. |
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| Ospreys on 20:26 - Mar 5 with 1820 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ospreys on 17:41 - Mar 5 by jackharris |
What is happening is an absolute disgrace and farce. The pre-regionalisation olden days of the Heineken League, with most of the games being played at 2.30pm with the best players are greatly missed. With the likes of Llanelli v The Whites and Neath v Aberavon crowds were good. I remember one game at St Helens the Whites and the scarlets being sell out of over 22,000 there and a lot of fans had to climb over the gates and fences to get in. Those were the days. This new initiative is taking things one step too far.
The WRU own The Gwent Dragons so moving them to North Wales could be done with less of a destructive impact. Nobody is going to be completely happy. Neath, Swansea, etc have already had to amalgamate, forcing another amalgamation on top of that is a joke. Scarlets fans, Whites fans and the All Black fans are not on the same wavelength. The formation of the Neath-Swansea Ospreys was done quite tactfully, with kit being black, etc. This new formation is a car crash..! |
I don’t know many Scarlets fans but they’ve got a history of disliking the whites and neath and of course those feelings are reciprocated. I can see support for this new venture falling through the floor which will kill off rugby completely down here.
The Ospreys are Wales most successful regional side. The dragons , the least successful region should have been allowed to die but the WRU bailed them out completely. Why aren’t the Ospreys getting the same treatment. Surely that must be part of a basis for a legal argument against the union? I’d love the whites to find a sugar daddy and join the English league system, f*ck the WRU. This is so cynical and perverse it’s almost sarcastic. |  |
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| Ospreys on 20:33 - Mar 5 with 1802 views | Jonathans_coat |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:03 - Mar 5 by cymrojack |
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Love to see this, but as previously mentioned probably a non-starter. The WRU provide more than half of the funding for the Ospreys and would naturally pull out if this happened, so without major private backing they would be insolvent.
Also, the WRU will not allow any players to play for Wales unless they play for one of thier regions in the Pro14, meaning there would be zero Wales internationals in the squad.
Thirdly, the English clubs would go ballistic if an outsider was let in to the Prem now when they are squabbling over ring fencing the 12 clubs they have now! IMO the whole welsh pyramid should have been merged with the English Pyramid instead of regional rugby. But the boat has been missed on that regard by at least 15 years! [Post edited 5 Mar 2019 20:36]
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| Ospreys on 20:43 - Mar 5 with 1774 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ospreys on 20:33 - Mar 5 by Jonathans_coat |
Love to see this, but as previously mentioned probably a non-starter. The WRU provide more than half of the funding for the Ospreys and would naturally pull out if this happened, so without major private backing they would be insolvent.
Also, the WRU will not allow any players to play for Wales unless they play for one of thier regions in the Pro14, meaning there would be zero Wales internationals in the squad.
Thirdly, the English clubs would go ballistic if an outsider was let in to the Prem now when they are squabbling over ring fencing the 12 clubs they have now! IMO the whole welsh pyramid should have been merged with the English Pyramid instead of regional rugby. But the boat has been missed on that regard by at least 15 years! [Post edited 5 Mar 2019 20:36]
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They’re talking about North Wales like there’s an untapped market there. Rugby has never been a major concern up there. They wouldn’t even turn out when the scarlets played some games up there. We’re being f*cked over for some prick at the WRU’s vanity project | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:43 - Mar 5 with 1774 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 20:33 - Mar 5 by Jonathans_coat |
Love to see this, but as previously mentioned probably a non-starter. The WRU provide more than half of the funding for the Ospreys and would naturally pull out if this happened, so without major private backing they would be insolvent.
Also, the WRU will not allow any players to play for Wales unless they play for one of thier regions in the Pro14, meaning there would be zero Wales internationals in the squad.
Thirdly, the English clubs would go ballistic if an outsider was let in to the Prem now when they are squabbling over ring fencing the 12 clubs they have now! IMO the whole welsh pyramid should have been merged with the English Pyramid instead of regional rugby. But the boat has been missed on that regard by at least 15 years! [Post edited 5 Mar 2019 20:36]
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| Ospreys on 20:51 - Mar 5 with 1751 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:43 - Mar 5 by cymrojack |
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The WRU never forgave the whites for 1998/99. It’s a slow execution for Swansea rugby - the only club to have beaten all the major touring teams. What vandalism, iconoclasm at its worst. I think the warnings were there when Glamorgan f*cked St Helens off | |
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| Ospreys on 20:56 - Mar 5 with 1746 views | Darran |
It’s a shame all the people concerned about the Ospreys never bothered to go down and support them,perhaps they wouldn’t be so reliant on the WRU them. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:10 - Mar 5 with 1726 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 20:51 - Mar 5 by Brynmill_Jack |
The WRU never forgave the whites for 1998/99. It’s a slow execution for Swansea rugby - the only club to have beaten all the major touring teams. What vandalism, iconoclasm at its worst. I think the warnings were there when Glamorgan f*cked St Helens off |
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| Ospreys on 21:12 - Mar 5 with 1713 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:10 - Mar 5 by cymrojack |
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I’d love that to happen . Not likely to but I’d love it. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:15 - Mar 5 with 1706 views | cymrojack |
| Ospreys on 21:12 - Mar 5 by Brynmill_Jack |
I’d love that to happen . Not likely to but I’d love it. |
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