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Swansea murder 12:44 - Apr 26 with 3542 viewsCountyJim

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/17600033.the-murder-of-muriel-drinkwater-

What an evil man terrible story hope hes rotting in hell
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Swansea murder on 12:59 - Apr 26 with 2772 viewsAlberto_Swinglehurst

Lots of murders in Swansea over the years. The Clydach one springs to mind as the most recent and surrounded in mystery.

There was another in Swansea just this week, too.
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Swansea murder on 13:28 - Apr 26 with 2716 viewsCountyJim

Swansea murder on 12:59 - Apr 26 by Alberto_Swinglehurst

Lots of murders in Swansea over the years. The Clydach one springs to mind as the most recent and surrounded in mystery.

There was another in Swansea just this week, too.


Don't think Swansea is any worse than any major city but this case involved children how this creature only served 20 years is sickening and raped the one poor child
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Swansea murder on 13:35 - Apr 26 with 2702 viewsAlberto_Swinglehurst

Swansea murder on 13:28 - Apr 26 by CountyJim

Don't think Swansea is any worse than any major city but this case involved children how this creature only served 20 years is sickening and raped the one poor child


I think all murders are sickening.
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Swansea murder on 22:34 - Apr 26 with 2504 viewscontroversial_jack

The Llandarcy double murders in 73 were sickening as I knew the two girls who were murdered.
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Swansea murder on 22:40 - Apr 26 with 2492 viewsbuilthjack

The sex shop murder, they wrongly convicted those fellas. Don't think they ever solved it.

Poll: Who trusts the Yanks?

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Swansea murder on 23:22 - Apr 26 with 2462 viewsJack123

Swansea murder on 22:40 - Apr 26 by builthjack

The sex shop murder, they wrongly convicted those fellas. Don't think they ever solved it.


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Swansea murder on 23:43 - Apr 26 with 2448 viewsJack123

Swansea murder on 22:40 - Apr 26 by builthjack

The sex shop murder, they wrongly convicted those fellas. Don't think they ever solved it.


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Swansea murder on 10:17 - Apr 27 with 2343 viewscontroversial_jack

Swansea murder on 23:22 - Apr 26 by Jack123

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Apparently, SWP are the worse of all the forces in the UK.
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Swansea murder on 10:30 - Apr 27 with 2316 viewsraynor94

Swansea murder on 10:17 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

Apparently, SWP are the worse of all the forces in the UK.


You should try reading up on facts, instead of your pie in the sky posts

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game

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Swansea murder on 12:00 - Apr 27 with 2252 viewsdickythorpe

Swansea murder on 22:40 - Apr 26 by builthjack

The sex shop murder, they wrongly convicted those fellas. Don't think they ever solved it.


What a wonderful mess that was.

Poll: Election result

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Swansea murder on 12:25 - Apr 27 with 2224 viewscontroversial_jack

Swansea murder on 10:30 - Apr 27 by raynor94

You should try reading up on facts, instead of your pie in the sky posts


I have, that's why i stated it!
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Swansea murder on 16:04 - Apr 27 with 2147 viewsraynor94

Swansea murder on 12:25 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

I have, that's why i stated it!


Well seeing as Humberside and Northamptonshire are bottom, and SWP are nowhere near the bottom, you haven't done your homework very well.

Never mind there's bound to be a day you get something right

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game

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Swansea murder on 10:58 - Apr 28 with 2012 viewscontroversial_jack

Swansea murder on 16:04 - Apr 27 by raynor94

Well seeing as Humberside and Northamptonshire are bottom, and SWP are nowhere near the bottom, you haven't done your homework very well.

Never mind there's bound to be a day you get something right


You really need to look at the recent cases of f*ck ups, there's a string of them
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Swansea murder on 12:05 - Apr 28 with 1979 viewsWingstandwood

Swansea murder on 23:22 - Apr 26 by Jack123

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Stinks to high heaven? You live in cloud cuckooland!

A hand picked team of eight police officers trawled through phone records to prove 100% that David Morris could never have left his chain at Kelvin Road when he said he innocently did. Thus his alibi was blown into absolute smithereens in one of the most dramatic courtroom cross examinations ever seen in a Welsh crown court.

David Morris was witnessed by a Clydach resident walking towards Kelvin Road murder scene house at a time that coincided exactly with his angry New Inn departure walking along the exact route direction required to take him there.

David Morris arrived home late in the early hours at a time that coincided exactly with the post departure time that the murderer (Morris himself) would have fled from the last started fire. A highly incriminating heated conversation in a back garden and his own girlfriends admission was damning of his guilt.

The injuries inflicted upon the victims showed trademark David Morris's blunt force trauma skull fracturing weapon attack, similar to injuries inflicted upon another innocent victim only a few years earlier. The fact that Morris had previously hit his own girlfriend over the head with a shovel further showed the real capability of Morris when it came to hitting females with a weapon.

So how did the chain of David Morris find itself in the midst of a murder scene covered in blood? When unlike a certain book stuffed full of lies, urban myths, inaccuracies and blatant omission of evidence that convicted Morris..... History cannot be lied, twisted or rewritten! Did the chain sprout centipede legs and inadvertently walk into the midst of a murder scene? Did Scotty from Star Trek beam it there?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5182058.stm ........( 'In Work')
"The prosecution said phone calls had been made from the flat during the time he alleged he was with Mandy Power."

"Ms Jewell was asked if Mr Reilly had asked whether she could have come home early from work that day."

"She said she told Mr Reilly the same as she told the court on Thursday, that as far as she was aware, she was in work at that time."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5154406.stm (Lied to police)
"He claimed two telephone calls made from Mr Morris' home phone showed he had not been out for the whole day."

"Mr Morris said he could not explain the calls made to his parents and the bakery where his partner Mandy Jewell worked."
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Swansea murder on 17:19 - Apr 28 with 1867 viewsDr_Winston

The only thing that stinks about the Clydach case is the people who desperately want there to have been a cover up of the murder of little children that would have to have involved a number of Police officers, rather than it being the action of a known, amphetamined up psycho with form for assaulting women with weapons who's been tried and convicted twice.

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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea murder on 17:47 - Apr 28 with 1832 viewsWingstandwood

Swansea murder on 17:19 - Apr 28 by Dr_Winston

The only thing that stinks about the Clydach case is the people who desperately want there to have been a cover up of the murder of little children that would have to have involved a number of Police officers, rather than it being the action of a known, amphetamined up psycho with form for assaulting women with weapons who's been tried and convicted twice.

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Two trials...two different juries...two different defence teams....FOUR independent CCRC reviews with an end result.............Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!

Also an independant defamation case won by a hyper-vigilant detective whom wrote on post-it notes about an highly incriminating conversation of what he overheard Morris saying at a police station . He admitted the fact that he was at the Clydach Murders house on the night of the murders, left his chain there, and stated the fact he arrived home at 4:00am in the morning.

The BBC said the detective lied.... Further ongoing police investigation and the decision of two Crown Court trials verified the detective was stating the truth. He won his defamation case, it vindicated him and he was awarded a pay out! SEVEN judgemental decision making processes against David Morris claims of innocence says it all. What part of guilty don't people understand?
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Swansea murder on 18:09 - Apr 28 with 1804 viewsDr_Winston

I've heard the "incriminating conversation" story directly from one of the coppers who arrested him.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea murder on 19:11 - Apr 28 with 1735 viewsFlashberryjack

Swansea murder on 17:19 - Apr 28 by Dr_Winston

The only thing that stinks about the Clydach case is the people who desperately want there to have been a cover up of the murder of little children that would have to have involved a number of Police officers, rather than it being the action of a known, amphetamined up psycho with form for assaulting women with weapons who's been tried and convicted twice.

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Absolutely correct...but hey ! people love a good conspiracy theory, that's why there are so many books written about theory rather than facts.

Sad fact is, it's so entrenched in some peoples mindset, that if he admitted committing the murders, even that wouldn't be acceptable.
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Swansea murder on 19:32 - Apr 28 with 1706 viewsWingstandwood

Swansea murder on 19:11 - Apr 28 by Flashberryjack

Absolutely correct...but hey ! people love a good conspiracy theory, that's why there are so many books written about theory rather than facts.

Sad fact is, it's so entrenched in some peoples mindset, that if he admitted committing the murders, even that wouldn't be acceptable.


Indeed, that why the likes of David Icke can charge £45 quid a ticket to take the money and run, and get a standing ovation from telling naive tw@ts that the moon is a spherical 2,000 miles x 2,000 miles x2,000 miles (height, width and depth) abandoned planetoid spaceship.

*Edit* Some feat of extraterrestrial engineering that!
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Swansea murder on 19:43 - Apr 28 with 1678 viewsJack123

Swansea murder on 12:05 - Apr 28 by Wingstandwood

Stinks to high heaven? You live in cloud cuckooland!

A hand picked team of eight police officers trawled through phone records to prove 100% that David Morris could never have left his chain at Kelvin Road when he said he innocently did. Thus his alibi was blown into absolute smithereens in one of the most dramatic courtroom cross examinations ever seen in a Welsh crown court.

David Morris was witnessed by a Clydach resident walking towards Kelvin Road murder scene house at a time that coincided exactly with his angry New Inn departure walking along the exact route direction required to take him there.

David Morris arrived home late in the early hours at a time that coincided exactly with the post departure time that the murderer (Morris himself) would have fled from the last started fire. A highly incriminating heated conversation in a back garden and his own girlfriends admission was damning of his guilt.

The injuries inflicted upon the victims showed trademark David Morris's blunt force trauma skull fracturing weapon attack, similar to injuries inflicted upon another innocent victim only a few years earlier. The fact that Morris had previously hit his own girlfriend over the head with a shovel further showed the real capability of Morris when it came to hitting females with a weapon.

So how did the chain of David Morris find itself in the midst of a murder scene covered in blood? When unlike a certain book stuffed full of lies, urban myths, inaccuracies and blatant omission of evidence that convicted Morris..... History cannot be lied, twisted or rewritten! Did the chain sprout centipede legs and inadvertently walk into the midst of a murder scene? Did Scotty from Star Trek beam it there?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5182058.stm ........( 'In Work')
"The prosecution said phone calls had been made from the flat during the time he alleged he was with Mandy Power."

"Ms Jewell was asked if Mr Reilly had asked whether she could have come home early from work that day."

"She said she told Mr Reilly the same as she told the court on Thursday, that as far as she was aware, she was in work at that time."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5154406.stm (Lied to police)
"He claimed two telephone calls made from Mr Morris' home phone showed he had not been out for the whole day."

"Mr Morris said he could not explain the calls made to his parents and the bakery where his partner Mandy Jewell worked."
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Swansea murder on 19:56 - Apr 28 with 1658 viewsFlashberryjack

Swansea murder on 19:32 - Apr 28 by Wingstandwood

Indeed, that why the likes of David Icke can charge £45 quid a ticket to take the money and run, and get a standing ovation from telling naive tw@ts that the moon is a spherical 2,000 miles x 2,000 miles x2,000 miles (height, width and depth) abandoned planetoid spaceship.

*Edit* Some feat of extraterrestrial engineering that!
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Sadly it's sh*t like that that keeps small minds occupied (and sells books) irrespective of the hurt it may cause to the families trying to put their lives together after such horrific events.

The book " The hand of a woman" is a brilliant example of John Morris's money making wonderful fictional books, I wonder how much research went into that load of imaginative bollox .
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Swansea murder on 20:00 - Apr 28 with 1640 viewsFlashberryjack

Swansea murder on 19:43 - Apr 28 by Jack123

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With respect, tou are the prime example as to why these books are written.
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Swansea murder on 20:00 - Apr 28 with 1636 viewsWingstandwood

Swansea murder on 19:43 - Apr 28 by Jack123

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No different to the book?...I think you'll find the book will have evaded a lot of stuff because reporting damning evidence about the Clydach murders would have destroyed the books credibility and claims of miscarriage of justice within a few pages.

The eFit?...That and the logistics/course of action required for the Lewises to commit the Clydach murders was presented and explored during the two trials. It debunked Lewis involvement and further exonerated them. You see I'm more privy to reality and fact!
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Swansea murder on 20:24 - Apr 28 with 1608 viewsJack123

Swansea murder on 20:00 - Apr 28 by Wingstandwood

No different to the book?...I think you'll find the book will have evaded a lot of stuff because reporting damning evidence about the Clydach murders would have destroyed the books credibility and claims of miscarriage of justice within a few pages.

The eFit?...That and the logistics/course of action required for the Lewises to commit the Clydach murders was presented and explored during the two trials. It debunked Lewis involvement and further exonerated them. You see I'm more privy to reality and fact!


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Swansea murder on 20:41 - Apr 28 with 1585 viewsWingstandwood

Swansea murder on 20:24 - Apr 28 by Jack123

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The Gellionen Road witness was questioned by Patrick Harrington Q.C. Her evidence was presented to a court of law.
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