Gavin Williamson 17:58 - May 1 with 4104 views | Brynmill_Jack | ..........should just go away and shut ooop. Huwawei? Jackarmy! | |
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Gavin Williamson on 19:13 - May 1 with 2083 views | valleyboy | You could look st in a different way, in that he did this country a favour How stupid can a Prime Minister be, to go against the advice of MI6 | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 19:15 - May 1 with 2085 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar | Which embassy will he run off to? | |
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Gavin Williamson on 19:19 - May 1 with 2077 views | LeonWasGod |
Gavin Williamson on 19:13 - May 1 by valleyboy | You could look st in a different way, in that he did this country a favour How stupid can a Prime Minister be, to go against the advice of MI6 |
Quite. I wonder who is really in the wrong here? The person who is happy to go against all domestic and international advice from the top security agencies in the world (on ‘our’ side). Or the person who brings to the public’s attention the fact that we’re potentially jeopardising national security? Sticking my tin foil hat on, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to learn in many years time that May was a foreign agent or in receipt of their money. It would be difficult for any foreign power to be as disruptive as she is. For now I’m still putting it down to sheer incompetence, but I do wonder sometimes. [Post edited 1 May 2019 20:46]
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Gavin Williamson on 19:30 - May 1 with 2059 views | bluey_the_blue | There is a rumour it's a battle between Williamson and Sedwill. WIlliamson's letter certainly intimates Sedwill's investigation was p1ss poor. It'll be interesting anyway, given the leak breaks the official secret act, a criminal offence, a more thorough investigation will take place... | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 20:02 - May 1 with 2018 views | valleyboy |
Gavin Williamson on 19:19 - May 1 by LeonWasGod | Quite. I wonder who is really in the wrong here? The person who is happy to go against all domestic and international advice from the top security agencies in the world (on ‘our’ side). Or the person who brings to the public’s attention the fact that we’re potentially jeopardising national security? Sticking my tin foil hat on, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to learn in many years time that May was a foreign agent or in receipt of their money. It would be difficult for any foreign power to be as disruptive as she is. For now I’m still putting it down to sheer incompetence, but I do wonder sometimes. [Post edited 1 May 2019 20:46]
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I wouldn’t be surprised that Williamson was under pressure from high ranking generals at the Ministry of defence to let the country know what this idiot of a Prime Minister was doing I would now put Teresa May as the biggest threat for the security and prosperity of this country Often she has told Jeremy Corbyn that he is not fit to govern I would say she needs to look in the mirror as she’s in the same boat | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 20:29 - May 1 with 1992 views | exiledclaseboy | Williamson is a fool and his attempt to implicate his officials by stridently insisting they weren’t responsible is scurrilous. This government leaks like a sieve because the PM has no authority and the leaks almost always come from ministers. [Post edited 1 May 2019 21:19]
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Gavin Williamson on 20:33 - May 1 with 1985 views | bluey_the_blue |
Gavin Williamson on 20:29 - May 1 by exiledclaseboy | Williamson is a fool and his attempt to implicate his officials by stridently insisting they weren’t responsible is scurrilous. This government leaks like a sieve because the PM has no authority and the leaks almost always come from ministers. [Post edited 1 May 2019 21:19]
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How is he implicating his officials by insisting they weren't responsible? Maybe they weren't responsible? | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 20:42 - May 1 with 1978 views | exiledclaseboy |
Gavin Williamson on 20:33 - May 1 by bluey_the_blue | How is he implicating his officials by insisting they weren't responsible? Maybe they weren't responsible? |
Well the PM’s letter makes no mention of his department being suspected, only him personally. His reply widens the suspicion to those working in his department. You work it out. Of course a full, criminal investigation would unearth all this. But that won’t happen. | |
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Gavin Williamson on 20:45 - May 1 with 1968 views | monmouth |
Gavin Williamson on 20:33 - May 1 by bluey_the_blue | How is he implicating his officials by insisting they weren't responsible? Maybe they weren't responsible? |
Seriously? Come on Bluey, Seriously? | |
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Gavin Williamson on 20:51 - May 1 with 1956 views | bluey_the_blue |
Gavin Williamson on 20:42 - May 1 by exiledclaseboy | Well the PM’s letter makes no mention of his department being suspected, only him personally. His reply widens the suspicion to those working in his department. You work it out. Of course a full, criminal investigation would unearth all this. But that won’t happen. |
Well, there should be a full criminal investigation into this imo. It's simply that serious. Williamson seems to want one, No 10 doesn't. That's interesting in itself. Sedwill and WIlliamson seem to have issues working together. Who knows what's gone on? | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 21:05 - May 1 with 1931 views | exiledclaseboy |
Gavin Williamson on 20:51 - May 1 by bluey_the_blue | Well, there should be a full criminal investigation into this imo. It's simply that serious. Williamson seems to want one, No 10 doesn't. That's interesting in itself. Sedwill and WIlliamson seem to have issues working together. Who knows what's gone on? |
Cabinet ministers and the cabinet secretary are supposed to hate each other. It’s traditional. | |
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Gavin Williamson on 23:17 - May 1 with 1830 views | Kilkennyjack |
Gavin Williamson on 20:29 - May 1 by exiledclaseboy | Williamson is a fool and his attempt to implicate his officials by stridently insisting they weren’t responsible is scurrilous. This government leaks like a sieve because the PM has no authority and the leaks almost always come from ministers. [Post edited 1 May 2019 21:19]
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Spot on - Williamson is a fool. The end. | |
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Gavin Williamson on 10:30 - May 2 with 1697 views | controversial_jack | Didn't Calamity May call Jeremy Corbyn a threat to national security? Karma is wonderful! | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 10:39 - May 2 with 1692 views | valleyboy |
Gavin Williamson on 10:30 - May 2 by controversial_jack | Didn't Calamity May call Jeremy Corbyn a threat to national security? Karma is wonderful! |
Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May between them. Will destroy the UK Both are totally incompetent In my memory We haven’t had such a useless Prime Minister and a leader of the opposition both together at the same time | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 11:25 - May 2 with 1669 views | bluey_the_blue | Met police have said they'd investigate potential OSA breach if reported. No 10 haven't and almost certainly won't report it. Deputy Prime Minister in response to urgent question saying Williamson had lost the confidence of the PM, that the fact a leak occurred was more important than the contents. Hmmm, I'm on Williamson's side on this. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 11:40 - May 2 with 1652 views | sherpajacob | Williamson is dreadful, pretty much everyone can see that. Continually proves his incompetence on an almost daily basis. The truly worrying thing is that May identified him as a rising star, possibly even a future leader, and kept promoting him. Tells us more about her than him. | |
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Gavin Williamson on 12:06 - May 2 with 1632 views | bluey_the_blue | Does he? Armed forces seem to respect him. What we're seeing is someone's reputation being damned yet the narrative has gone from "leaked information, compelling evidence" to "ah he actually lost PM's confidence..." which is one hell of a climbdown by number 10. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:07 - May 2 with 1592 views | londonlisa2001 |
Gavin Williamson on 12:06 - May 2 by bluey_the_blue | Does he? Armed forces seem to respect him. What we're seeing is someone's reputation being damned yet the narrative has gone from "leaked information, compelling evidence" to "ah he actually lost PM's confidence..." which is one hell of a climbdown by number 10. |
There’s been no climb down Bluey. They have records of a phone call that was made between him and the Telegraph journo after the meeting that discussed the Huawei situation. They know exactly when it was made and for how long. It’s probably inadmissible in a police investigation hence the reluctance to take it further. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:22 - May 2 with 1579 views | dickythorpe | Nordfelt rumoured to be in running to replace Williamson. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:35 - May 2 with 1576 views | bluey_the_blue |
Gavin Williamson on 13:07 - May 2 by londonlisa2001 | There’s been no climb down Bluey. They have records of a phone call that was made between him and the Telegraph journo after the meeting that discussed the Huawei situation. They know exactly when it was made and for how long. It’s probably inadmissible in a police investigation hence the reluctance to take it further. |
He's said he spoke to the journalist. Cabinet ministers talk to journalists all the time. He's stated he did not leak, onus on May to show that - after all, she claimed there was "compelling evidence". Not "compelling evidence" to get a police investigation into an OSA breach, just enough to trash the man's reputation. Indeed, if you watched the urgent question in the HoC earlier, Lidington repeatedly stated WIlliamson went due to "losing confidence of PM". The fact the deputy prime minister is downplaying the reason for the firing of Williamson - that comment along with "it's the fact there was a leak, not the content" which indicates a climb down to me. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:43 - May 2 with 1568 views | Batterseajack | swearing on his children's life on something as serious as this is a bit cringe. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:47 - May 2 with 1563 views | londonlisa2001 |
Gavin Williamson on 13:35 - May 2 by bluey_the_blue | He's said he spoke to the journalist. Cabinet ministers talk to journalists all the time. He's stated he did not leak, onus on May to show that - after all, she claimed there was "compelling evidence". Not "compelling evidence" to get a police investigation into an OSA breach, just enough to trash the man's reputation. Indeed, if you watched the urgent question in the HoC earlier, Lidington repeatedly stated WIlliamson went due to "losing confidence of PM". The fact the deputy prime minister is downplaying the reason for the firing of Williamson - that comment along with "it's the fact there was a leak, not the content" which indicates a climb down to me. |
Get real Bluey. You don’t think they can listen in to calls? How do you think they know the call was made, when it was made and how long it lasted? Why didn’t he admit he’d made the call before the evidence was made public? Jess Phillips has said today they know he’s leaked at least once before. May’s letter to him yesterday said he’d lost her confidence. It also says there’s no other credible explanation of the leak other than it was him. He was her blue eyed boy - you think she’s sacked him for the sake of it? The comment about principle not content is referring to the notion his mates are putting about that it wasn’t a ‘state secret’. For once, she’s done the right thing. It doesn’t matter what was leaked, the fact that the defence secretary is leaking anything is good enough reason for him to be dumped. He’s an odious little git anyway. Good riddance. For him to try to blame staff is hideous. | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:47 - May 2 with 1561 views | londonlisa2001 |
Gavin Williamson on 13:43 - May 2 by Batterseajack | swearing on his children's life on something as serious as this is a bit cringe. |
Innit. How old is he - 10? | | | |
Gavin Williamson on 13:53 - May 2 with 1550 views | Highjack |
Gavin Williamson on 13:47 - May 2 by londonlisa2001 | Innit. How old is he - 10? |
How many 10 year olds swear on their children’s lives? | |
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Gavin Williamson on 13:56 - May 2 with 1549 views | bluey_the_blue |
Gavin Williamson on 13:47 - May 2 by londonlisa2001 | Get real Bluey. You don’t think they can listen in to calls? How do you think they know the call was made, when it was made and how long it lasted? Why didn’t he admit he’d made the call before the evidence was made public? Jess Phillips has said today they know he’s leaked at least once before. May’s letter to him yesterday said he’d lost her confidence. It also says there’s no other credible explanation of the leak other than it was him. He was her blue eyed boy - you think she’s sacked him for the sake of it? The comment about principle not content is referring to the notion his mates are putting about that it wasn’t a ‘state secret’. For once, she’s done the right thing. It doesn’t matter what was leaked, the fact that the defence secretary is leaking anything is good enough reason for him to be dumped. He’s an odious little git anyway. Good riddance. For him to try to blame staff is hideous. |
Didn't have you as one of the tin foil brigade ;) Jess Phillips? No motivation on her part to play it up, eh? Now, is there no other credible explanation of the leak or was no other credible explanation presented to May? There's a difference there. Now, he may have leaked. He may not have leaked. Given it was NSC stuff, clearly there's a view OSA was broken - so why no complaint to police? I hope the Met take on board Jo Swinson's complaint, if she has indeed made one. If Williamson leaked and broke OSA, he should be prosecuted. If Sedwill performed a slapdash investigation to settle a score, then that could well be the thing that brings May down. | | | |
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