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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. 21:58 - May 27 with 2560 viewsLohengrin

Right then, I didn’t forget, I had a brief chat with somebody from her publishers earlier and the third and final instalment of her Thomas Cromwell series is due for release in the first quarter of next year and will be titled ‘The Mirror and the Light.

Sorry if you were expecting it earlier, don’t shoot the messenger!

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:00 - May 27 with 1746 viewsexiledclaseboy

In other news - Mafeking relieved.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/22/hilary-mantel-the-mirror-and-the-l

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:02 - May 27 with 1731 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:00 - May 27 by exiledclaseboy

In other news - Mafeking relieved.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/22/hilary-mantel-the-mirror-and-the-l


Lisa was asking last night, mun.

I’ve not read either of them. Have you?

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:03 - May 27 with 1722 viewsDarran

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:00 - May 27 by exiledclaseboy

In other news - Mafeking relieved.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/22/hilary-mantel-the-mirror-and-the-l


He doesn’t read that rag.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:04 - May 27 with 1719 viewsexiledclaseboy

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:02 - May 27 by Lohengrin

Lisa was asking last night, mun.

I’ve not read either of them. Have you?


No. That sort of thing doesn’t interest me. I tried to watch the TV adaptation and found it to be very well made but indescribably smug and very tedious.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:08 - May 27 with 1710 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:04 - May 27 by exiledclaseboy

No. That sort of thing doesn’t interest me. I tried to watch the TV adaptation and found it to be very well made but indescribably smug and very tedious.


On another note I had a chat with Fintan O’Toole earlier as well.

Very clever chap. You’d have enjoyed that.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:09 - May 27 with 1703 viewsexiledclaseboy

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:08 - May 27 by Lohengrin

On another note I had a chat with Fintan O’Toole earlier as well.

Very clever chap. You’d have enjoyed that.


Not familiar with him.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:12 - May 27 with 1694 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:09 - May 27 by exiledclaseboy

Not familiar with him.


Familiarise yourself then.



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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 06:08 - May 28 with 1545 viewsPegojack

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:02 - May 27 by Lohengrin

Lisa was asking last night, mun.

I’ve not read either of them. Have you?


I have, I thought both were excellent. Surprised at ECB's reaction, but each to his own.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 07:26 - May 28 with 1514 viewsdickythorpe

Judith Kerr passed away last week. "The tiger who came to tea" was a masterpiece.

It was updated by Sean Lock a few years back.

https://mobile.twitter.com/channel4/status/934532656682876928
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 07:47 - May 28 with 1499 viewsAnotherJohn

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:12 - May 27 by Lohengrin

Familiarise yourself then.




Not convinced that a Princeton-based Dubliner understands Wales as well as he thinks he does.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 09:14 - May 28 with 1442 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 07:47 - May 28 by AnotherJohn

Not convinced that a Princeton-based Dubliner understands Wales as well as he thinks he does.


In fairness he only mentioned Wales in passing during his talk and then probably out of politeness because he was here.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 09:51 - May 28 with 1392 viewsWarwickHunt

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 07:26 - May 28 by dickythorpe

Judith Kerr passed away last week. "The tiger who came to tea" was a masterpiece.

It was updated by Sean Lock a few years back.

https://mobile.twitter.com/channel4/status/934532656682876928


Lived up the road. Used to see her in Waitrose.

Great children’s author.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 09:53 - May 28 with 1389 viewsdickythorpe

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 09:51 - May 28 by WarwickHunt

Lived up the road. Used to see her in Waitrose.

Great children’s author.


"Mog" was a great children's book.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 10:11 - May 28 with 1363 viewsWarwickHunt

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 09:53 - May 28 by dickythorpe

"Mog" was a great children's book.


Didn’t realise Matthew Kneale was her son. Wrote the novel English Passengers and a great history of Rome.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 12:25 - May 28 with 1304 viewsGreatBritton

I don't often bother with very carefully researched historical novels but Mantel is very very good. Thank you for the heads up, Loh, because I didn't know there was another tome coming. Have to buy it, I suppose.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:08 - May 28 with 1266 viewslondonlisa2001

Loh - you star. Thanks very much.

Thank God she’s finally written it - years late - but better late than never.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:11 - May 28 with 1264 viewslondonlisa2001

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 22:04 - May 27 by exiledclaseboy

No. That sort of thing doesn’t interest me. I tried to watch the TV adaptation and found it to be very well made but indescribably smug and very tedious.


Shut up you tart...

I thought the TV adaptation was fab as well. Mark Rylance was brilliant.

The books though are really something else.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:49 - May 28 with 1238 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:08 - May 28 by londonlisa2001

Loh - you star. Thanks very much.

Thank God she’s finally written it - years late - but better late than never.


My pleasure. If she’d been there in person I’d have picked up one her other titles and had her dedicate it and sent it on to you.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:55 - May 28 with 1231 viewslondonlisa2001

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:49 - May 28 by Lohengrin

My pleasure. If she’d been there in person I’d have picked up one her other titles and had her dedicate it and sent it on to you.


I have a signed first edition of the second one (Bringing up the Bodies) that I received as a present!

Have you read them?

I studied that period at ‘A’ level history (Tudors and Stuarts) and always found it fascinating even then. I hadn’t realised Cromwell’s Welsh links until I read Wolf Hall though. Nor that he was born a stone’s throw from where I live (just over the river in Putney).
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:06 - May 28 with 1219 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 13:55 - May 28 by londonlisa2001

I have a signed first edition of the second one (Bringing up the Bodies) that I received as a present!

Have you read them?

I studied that period at ‘A’ level history (Tudors and Stuarts) and always found it fascinating even then. I hadn’t realised Cromwell’s Welsh links until I read Wolf Hall though. Nor that he was born a stone’s throw from where I live (just over the river in Putney).


I haven’t read either, I’m sorry to say. I may well make the effort now though.

Cromwell’s Welsh roots are pretty well documented, Lis. His actual surname was Williams as you probably know.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:21 - May 28 with 1211 viewslondonlisa2001

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:06 - May 28 by Lohengrin

I haven’t read either, I’m sorry to say. I may well make the effort now though.

Cromwell’s Welsh roots are pretty well documented, Lis. His actual surname was Williams as you probably know.


His sister married a Williams (Morgan Williams]. Not his name though.

Edited to add - you really should read them. I think you’d enjoy them.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:43 - May 28 with 1190 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:21 - May 28 by londonlisa2001

His sister married a Williams (Morgan Williams]. Not his name though.

Edited to add - you really should read them. I think you’d enjoy them.
[Post edited 28 May 2019 14:21]


Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m tolerably certain that ‘Cromwell’ was a name adopted for reasons of social prestige after his grandfather, a Williams, married the sister of Thomas Crowell.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:54 - May 28 with 1182 viewslondonlisa2001

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:43 - May 28 by Lohengrin

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m tolerably certain that ‘Cromwell’ was a name adopted for reasons of social prestige after his grandfather, a Williams, married the sister of Thomas Crowell.


I think (trying to remember) that you’re mixing up the two Cromwells.

Thomas Cromwell’s sister, married to a Williams, has a son, Richard Williams, who changes his name to Cromwell for political expediency (and joins Thomas Cromwell’s household). His great grandson was Oliver Cromwell (so it’s his name that would have been Williams).

Thomas Cromwell’s father was Walter Cromwell, who owned a pub in Putney.
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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:57 - May 28 with 1180 viewsLohengrin

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:54 - May 28 by londonlisa2001

I think (trying to remember) that you’re mixing up the two Cromwells.

Thomas Cromwell’s sister, married to a Williams, has a son, Richard Williams, who changes his name to Cromwell for political expediency (and joins Thomas Cromwell’s household). His great grandson was Oliver Cromwell (so it’s his name that would have been Williams).

Thomas Cromwell’s father was Walter Cromwell, who owned a pub in Putney.


Sounds convoluted enough to be right.

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Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 15:02 - May 28 with 1175 viewslondonlisa2001

Fao LondonLisa - Hilary Mantel. on 14:57 - May 28 by Lohengrin

Sounds convoluted enough to be right.

There’s a second career beckoning you as a presenter on Who do you think you are?!


Ooh, I love that programme.
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