| Peterborough 10:38 - Jun 7 with 2594 views | ladyjack |
What to make of the Peterborough by-election ?
My thoughts were that it was a poor set of results for everybody, how can that be ?, surely things should balance out between a good result for some parties and a bad result for others but it seems to me to be a bad result for all the parties which go's against the normal balance of things, amazing.
Labour lost a huge amount of votes/vote share and they are the official opposition fighting an unpopular Government in a mid term by-election.
The Tories lost a huge amount even more votes/vote share than Labour, with the by-election called because the sitting Labour MP was jailed and the official opposition party currently very unpopular.
The Brexit party was expected to win by many, the area had a high leave vote and the sitting MP had been jailed, so if they were unable to win that seat under FPTP they will struggle to win any seats at all.
The Lib-Dem vote went up from a pathetic showing last time but still they only recorded 12% of the vote, I expected better, not a good sign for their hopes in any General Election.
The Greens had a bad night imo with a poor percentage of the vote, I expected better.
I'm struggling to see who it was a good result for looking at the overall picture with the next General Election in mind, nothing to do with who I vote for and as mad as it sounds but it could be viewed as a good result for SNP/Plaid although they don't stand in England as all those parties in the Peterborough by-election seemed one way or another to do badly. |  | | |  |
| Peterborough on 16:35 - Jun 7 with 1096 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Only Bluey can view that as a good result for the Tories and only Trampie can spin a Peterborough by-election as a good result for Plaid.
It’s what makes Planet Swans what it is. |  |
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| Peterborough on 16:39 - Jun 7 with 1086 views | longlostjack |
And the snake oil salesman delivers a letter to a departing PM demanding a seat at the negotiating table having yet again failed to get a seat at Westminster. Could have posted it but hey ho needs to get his mug on the evening news. What the hell is happening in Britain? Looks from afar that the lunatics are well and truly in the ascendancy and the media is happy to fuel the soap opera. |  |
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| Peterborough on 17:31 - Jun 7 with 1048 views | sherpajacob |
| Peterborough on 14:32 - Jun 7 by bluey_the_blue |
I view it as a win for the Tories in that their vote was far better than they expected. Yes, lost 25% of vote, but it can't be a win for Labour when they lost 17% themselves.
Again, Labour have lost votes share every single election post Referendum. Threw everything into that election, held off Brexit by 682.
It only take a 3k swing from Brexit to Tories for the seat to be reclaimed. That's not unachievable in a GE - it solely depends upon who the next Tory leader is. |
In much the same way Cardiff have just had their most successful season in nearly 60 years. |  |
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| Peterborough on 17:35 - Jun 7 with 1037 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Peterborough on 17:31 - Jun 7 by sherpajacob |
In much the same way Cardiff have just had their most successful season in nearly 60 years. |
Not at all.
Tories basically abandoned Peterborough, minimal campaigning knowing they were on a hiding to nothing. Labour threw everything into it...
Stop focusing on a single seat and look at the trend in Labour losing support in elections, look at the possibilities Tory/Brexit "alliance" bring. |  | | |
| Peterborough on 18:06 - Jun 7 with 1018 views | CountyJim |
| Peterborough on 17:35 - Jun 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Not at all.
Tories basically abandoned Peterborough, minimal campaigning knowing they were on a hiding to nothing. Labour threw everything into it...
Stop focusing on a single seat and look at the trend in Labour losing support in elections, look at the possibilities Tory/Brexit "alliance" bring. |
So why did Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt both campaign then if the Tories abandoned it |  | | |
| Peterborough on 18:10 - Jun 7 with 1009 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Peterborough on 18:06 - Jun 7 by CountyJim |
So why did Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt both campaign then if the Tories abandoned it |
More for show for their leadership campaigns than anything else. | | | |
| Peterborough on 18:11 - Jun 7 with 1009 views | sherpajacob |
| Peterborough on 17:35 - Jun 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Not at all.
Tories basically abandoned Peterborough, minimal campaigning knowing they were on a hiding to nothing. Labour threw everything into it...
Stop focusing on a single seat and look at the trend in Labour losing support in elections, look at the possibilities Tory/Brexit "alliance" bring. |
Tory/Brexit alliance?
A "pact of friendship and alliance. "
The Brexit party was formed solely because of the incompetence and infighting of the Tories. | |
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| Peterborough on 18:18 - Jun 7 with 1000 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Peterborough on 18:11 - Jun 7 by sherpajacob |
Tory/Brexit alliance?
A "pact of friendship and alliance. "
The Brexit party was formed solely because of the incompetence and infighting of the Tories. |
Was thinking more along the lines of both agreeing not to split votes, ie Brexit party fighting Labour leave seats in north than a formal alliance, hence the quotation marks. Both know Labour would not deliver Brexit. | | | |
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| Peterborough on 19:24 - Jun 7 with 966 views | exiledclaseboy |
Classic Comical Bluey on this thread.
Tories lose a quarter of their vote percentage and finish third in a seat they’ve previously won nine times since 1974 - “Good night for the Tories that” says Bluey.
Labour loses 17% of their vote but win a seat pretty much everyone, including Labour, expected them to lose - “what an awful night for labour” hails Bluey.
Poor night for anyone hoping for a sensible labour Brexit policy mind you. This’ll just encourage Corbyn to carry in as he has been. The useless feck. |  |
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| Peterborough on 19:27 - Jun 7 with 965 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Peterborough on 18:18 - Jun 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Was thinking more along the lines of both agreeing not to split votes, ie Brexit party fighting Labour leave seats in north than a formal alliance, hence the quotation marks. Both know Labour would not deliver Brexit. |
You think the tories are going to come to an agreement with Farage’s party not to stand in certain seats at a general election so as to try and marginalise Labour in those seats?
You are completely and thoroughly off your trolley. Not in a gazillion years. | |
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| Peterborough on 20:25 - Jun 7 with 916 views | WarwickHunt |
| Peterborough on 19:27 - Jun 7 by exiledclaseboy |
You think the tories are going to come to an agreement with Farage’s party not to stand in certain seats at a general election so as to try and marginalise Labour in those seats?
You are completely and thoroughly off your trolley. Not in a gazillion years. |
He gets more like Theresa May every day. |  | | |
| Peterborough on 20:57 - Jun 7 with 903 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Peterborough on 20:25 - Jun 7 by WarwickHunt |
He gets more like Theresa May every day. |
The Bluey-bot perhaps ? |  |
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| Peterborough on 21:11 - Jun 7 with 884 views | londonlisa2001 |
The Brexit party were utterly convinced this was in the bag. Everything went their way. They had momentum (small ‘m’), Farage being an ubiquitous presence on national media, a hugely leave seat and a departing MP that’s just been in prison. A Labour candidate that seems to be an unpleasant, anti Semitic troll. Polls estimated a huge win, bookies had them massively odds on.
Them losing was a disaster for them. An utter disaster.
Equally a disaster for the Tory party who, even if they were not convinced before, are now certain that they cannot call a general election or risk one being imposed on them.
It all points to the only option for them being another referendum unless they can stomach May’s deal. | | | |
| Peterborough on 22:29 - Jun 7 with 842 views | waynekerr55 |
| Peterborough on 14:45 - Jun 7 by WarwickHunt |
He's a "red Tory" who doesn't look like he spent the night in a skip.
No chance, sadly. |
"Spent the night in a skip"
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| Peterborough on 01:25 - Jun 8 with 802 views | westside |
Farage is just a windbag and professional heckler.
Even the non thinking lumpheads that voted for Brexit are starting to see through him. |  | | |
| Peterborough on 02:54 - Jun 8 with 784 views | westside |
Brexit party/Farage lost so...……………..get over it
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| Peterborough on 13:20 - Jun 9 with 652 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Peterborough on 16:35 - Jun 7 by Joe_bradshaw |
Only Bluey can view that as a good result for the Tories and only Trampie can spin a Peterborough by-election as a good result for Plaid.
It’s what makes Planet Swans what it is. |
What? Idiotic posts by bluey thatcher? It’s actually a big win for Labour in a very significant seat on the politics thermometer? They beat off the most successful party in the recent European elections and increased their majority! |  |
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| Peterborough on 09:47 - Jun 11 with 570 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Peterborough on 16:34 - Jun 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Well, duh. Labour retained the seat.
In terms of the meaning and underlying issues arising from the result on the other hand.
Like it or not, Tories and Brexit party got 50% of the vote. That's a major issue going forward. |
If only the UKIP voters had voted for Brexit the result would have been even closer. | |
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| Peterborough on 19:00 - Jun 14 with 485 views | bluey_the_blue |
It was reported that postal vote fraudster was around, wasn't aware he was with Forbes and Corbyn though.
Postal vote organisation tends to be concentrated in certain demographics and tend to favour Labour.
If true voting fraud occurred, it kills Labour. | | | |
| Peterborough on 20:21 - Jun 14 with 442 views | sherpajacob |
| Peterborough on 09:47 - Jun 11 by felixstowe_jack |
If only the UKIP voters had voted for Brexit the result would have been even closer. |
Die hard kippers are not noted for their intelligence. | |
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