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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ 23:14 - Jun 15 with 9707 viewsexiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/15/kenneth-clarke-bring-down-no-de

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:23 - Jun 16 with 1576 viewsbluey_the_blue

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:21 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Ha. Yeah of course. F*cking hell.


You think Clarke believed there was a chance May's deal would ever get through?
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 16 with 1571 viewsexiledclaseboy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:23 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

You think Clarke believed there was a chance May's deal would ever get through?


You think if he thought it would have he would have voted against it?

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:30 - Jun 16 with 1561 viewsAnotherJohn

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:21 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Ha. Yeah of course. F*cking hell.


Well, if Ken is a leaver then I'm the Archbishop of Canterbury.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:45 - Jun 16 with 1543 viewsexiledclaseboy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:30 - Jun 16 by AnotherJohn

Well, if Ken is a leaver then I'm the Archbishop of Canterbury.


I didn’t say he was a leaver. He clearly isn’t. What he has done is consistently voted to honour the result of the referendum. You like Hansard - go check.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:47 - Jun 16 with 1538 viewsbluey_the_blue

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

You think if he thought it would have he would have voted against it?


If he thought it would have got through, it matters not what he'd have voted.

He's been around long enough, knows the WA wouldn't get through, knows parliament refuse WTO rules. Voting for something he knows would fail just means he can then claim he abided by referendum result by voting for WA, as it fell and nothing else can get through, well, may as well revoke and remain.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:02 - Jun 16 with 1525 viewswaynekerr55

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:15 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

That’s ok though, because breaking election law doesn’t invalidate the result of said election or referendum, remember?


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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:32 - Jun 16 with 1496 viewslondonlisa2001

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:47 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

If he thought it would have got through, it matters not what he'd have voted.

He's been around long enough, knows the WA wouldn't get through, knows parliament refuse WTO rules. Voting for something he knows would fail just means he can then claim he abided by referendum result by voting for WA, as it fell and nothing else can get through, well, may as well revoke and remain.


Nonsense.

Clarke did as much as anyone to attempt members to vote for May’s deal.

He even persuaded Boris to vote for it, and Rees Mogg.

This rewriting of history is ridiculous.

The country did not vote for a no deal Brexit. Every leave politician swore blind it wouldnt happen.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:48 - Jun 16 with 1475 viewsexiledclaseboy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:47 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

If he thought it would have got through, it matters not what he'd have voted.

He's been around long enough, knows the WA wouldn't get through, knows parliament refuse WTO rules. Voting for something he knows would fail just means he can then claim he abided by referendum result by voting for WA, as it fell and nothing else can get through, well, may as well revoke and remain.


That’s one of your more ridiculous posts and given that you post nonsense on an hourly basis that’s saying something.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 14:19 - Jun 16 with 1453 viewsJack59

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:24 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

It sums up the state of Labour at the moment that their only chance of power is for Tories to implode.


Absolutely right! The labour leadership is pathetic beyond belief, even Gordon Brown (and he was as weak as I can think of) would have been way ahead of Corbyn in the polls.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:39 - Jun 16 with 1385 viewsLeonWasGod

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:32 - Jun 16 by londonlisa2001

Nonsense.

Clarke did as much as anyone to attempt members to vote for May’s deal.

He even persuaded Boris to vote for it, and Rees Mogg.

This rewriting of history is ridiculous.

The country did not vote for a no deal Brexit. Every leave politician swore blind it wouldnt happen.


The shifting of goalposts is fascinating (as well as being infuriating, of course). How on earth have people been convinced that the referendum was a mandate for only a no deal Brexit, especially when Farage himself campaigned for a future relationship with the EU similar to Norway or Switzerland? It must be a psychologist's dream material.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:42 - Jun 16 with 1380 viewsexiledclaseboy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:39 - Jun 16 by LeonWasGod

The shifting of goalposts is fascinating (as well as being infuriating, of course). How on earth have people been convinced that the referendum was a mandate for only a no deal Brexit, especially when Farage himself campaigned for a future relationship with the EU similar to Norway or Switzerland? It must be a psychologist's dream material.


Someone said to me the other day (with a straight face) that May deliberately negotiated a crap deal knowing it would be rejected. That’s all kinds of mental.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:46 - Jun 16 with 1375 viewsexiledclaseboy

Dim Dominic still reckons he can prorogue parliament to leave with no deal if he has to. He’s very dim.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 18:12 - Jun 16 with 1361 viewslondonlisa2001

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:46 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Dim Dominic still reckons he can prorogue parliament to leave with no deal if he has to. He’s very dim.


Someone pointed out the other day that he looks just like the bloke on Hi-De-Hi that Gladys Pugh spent her time lusting after (was he called Jeffrey?)

Anyway - it’s now impossible to see him as anything else.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:46 - Jun 17 with 1282 viewsAnotherJohn

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:45 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

I didn’t say he was a leaver. He clearly isn’t. What he has done is consistently voted to honour the result of the referendum. You like Hansard - go check.


The EU referendum took place on 23rd June 2016. Since then Mr Clarke did indeed vote to support BRINO in the division on March 29th 2019. His other votes on related issues are as follows. Did he really accept that he was on the losing side in the referendum?

On 11 Sep 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Withdrawal) Bill – Decline Second Reading

On 11 Sep 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Withdrawal) Bill – Second Reading

On 8 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill – All Clauses Stand Part

On 8 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke voted against empowering the Prime Minister to give notification of the United Kingdom's intention to leave the European Union.

On 1 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke voted against empowering the Prime Minister to give notification of the United Kingdom's intention to leave the European Union.

On 7 Dec 2016:
Kenneth Clarke voted against the United Kingdom leaving the European Union and against starting the process of leaving by 31 March 2017.

On 14 Sep 2016:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on UK Withdrawal from Membership of the European Union

[Post edited 17 Jun 2019 8:49]
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:59 - Jun 17 with 1274 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:46 - Jun 17 by AnotherJohn

The EU referendum took place on 23rd June 2016. Since then Mr Clarke did indeed vote to support BRINO in the division on March 29th 2019. His other votes on related issues are as follows. Did he really accept that he was on the losing side in the referendum?

On 11 Sep 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Withdrawal) Bill – Decline Second Reading

On 11 Sep 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Withdrawal) Bill – Second Reading

On 8 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill – All Clauses Stand Part

On 8 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke voted against empowering the Prime Minister to give notification of the United Kingdom's intention to leave the European Union.

On 1 Feb 2017:
Kenneth Clarke voted against empowering the Prime Minister to give notification of the United Kingdom's intention to leave the European Union.

On 7 Dec 2016:
Kenneth Clarke voted against the United Kingdom leaving the European Union and against starting the process of leaving by 31 March 2017.

On 14 Sep 2016:
Kenneth Clarke was absent for a vote on UK Withdrawal from Membership of the European Union

[Post edited 17 Jun 2019 8:49]


Can't wait till Oct 31 then we will finally leave and all this nonsense will be a thing of the past.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 09:12 - Jun 17 with 1260 viewsjohnlangy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:59 - Jun 17 by howenjack

Can't wait till Oct 31 then we will finally leave and all this nonsense will be a thing of the past.


I think you may be disappointed.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 09:23 - Jun 17 with 1246 viewsWarwickHunt

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:59 - Jun 17 by howenjack

Can't wait till Oct 31 then we will finally leave and all this nonsense will be a thing of the past.


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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:08 - Jun 17 with 1229 viewsBytholWyn

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:59 - Jun 17 by howenjack

Can't wait till Oct 31 then we will finally leave and all this nonsense will be a thing of the past.


There are some fantasists on here, but you, sir, win the fantasist of the week award.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:19 - Jun 17 with 1217 viewsNookiejack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 17:46 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Dim Dominic still reckons he can prorogue parliament to leave with no deal if he has to. He’s very dim.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

Raab attended Dr Challoner's Grammar School in Amersham before going to Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford, where he read Law and won the Clive Parry Prize for International Law.[12][13][14] After graduating, he gained a master's degree at Jesus College, Cambridge.

So went to a state grammar school and then went to Oxford not a bad cv.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:25 - Jun 17 with 1208 viewswaynekerr55

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:19 - Jun 17 by Nookiejack

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

Raab attended Dr Challoner's Grammar School in Amersham before going to Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford, where he read Law and won the Clive Parry Prize for International Law.[12][13][14] After graduating, he gained a master's degree at Jesus College, Cambridge.

So went to a state grammar school and then went to Oxford not a bad cv.


But Dim Dom didn't realise the importance of the Dover - Calais crossing...!

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:25 - Jun 17 with 1182 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:08 - Jun 17 by BytholWyn

There are some fantasists on here, but you, sir, win the fantasist of the week award.


I am a realist we won the referendum remember. Brexit means Brexit and all that.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:28 - Jun 17 with 1181 viewsexiledclaseboy

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:25 - Jun 17 by howenjack

I am a realist we won the referendum remember. Brexit means Brexit and all that.


Were you a realist when Brexit meant Brexit on 29 March?

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:29 - Jun 17 with 1179 viewswaynekerr55

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:25 - Jun 17 by howenjack

I am a realist we won the referendum remember. Brexit means Brexit and all that.


What exactly does "Brexit means Brexit" actually mean?

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:10 - Jun 17 with 1150 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:29 - Jun 17 by waynekerr55

What exactly does "Brexit means Brexit" actually mean?


It means we will leave a corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).
It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth. Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . We as a country have woken up at long last .
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 17 with 1132 viewslondonlisa2001

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:25 - Jun 17 by howenjack

I am a realist we won the referendum remember. Brexit means Brexit and all that.


If there’s one thing every single thinking person in this country should surely agree with, it’s that nobody ‘won’ the referendum.

Everyone lost.

And Brexit means Brexit is the most pointless statement of all time. Because that’s transparently not the case.
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