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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ 23:14 - Jun 15 with 9870 viewsexiledclaseboy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/15/kenneth-clarke-bring-down-no-de

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 17 with 1682 viewscostalotta

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:10 - Jun 17 by howenjack

It means we will leave a corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).
It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth. Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . We as a country have woken up at long last .


Fair play! Communist hahahahaha.

So you cannot answer what Brexit is then? Plus, your post is nothing more than a rant of an uneducated and clueless fool. You bring nothing to the table.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:26 - Jun 17 with 1677 viewslondonlisa2001

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:10 - Jun 17 by howenjack

It means we will leave a corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).
It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth. Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . We as a country have woken up at long last .


Oh dear God.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:36 - Jun 17 with 1669 viewsWarwickHunt

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 17 by costalotta

Fair play! Communist hahahahaha.

So you cannot answer what Brexit is then? Plus, your post is nothing more than a rant of an uneducated and clueless fool. You bring nothing to the table.


Swivel eyes and drool, possibly.

He's bonkers mental.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:39 - Jun 17 with 1667 viewsEbo

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:24 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

It sums up the state of Labour at the moment that their only chance of power is for Tories to implode.


Stewart comes across friendly enough but he's no different to the other bonk eyed tax dodgers doddering around the commons.

I wouldn't trust the self interested kunt as far as I could throw him.

Almost always voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas.
Voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system
Generally voted against more EU integration
Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
Generally voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
Almost always voted for increasing the rate of VAT
Almost always voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000
Generally voted against a banker’s bonus tax
Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes
Voted a mixture of for and against higher taxes on banks
Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
Almost always voted for reducing the rate of corporation tax


You can see the lot here https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/vote
[Post edited 17 Jun 2019 12:40]

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:23 - Jun 17 with 1630 viewscosy121

Labour not fit to run this country.we voted out and out we will go.lol
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:00 - Jun 17 with 1583 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 17 by costalotta

Fair play! Communist hahahahaha.

So you cannot answer what Brexit is then? Plus, your post is nothing more than a rant of an uneducated and clueless fool. You bring nothing to the table.


I bring nothing to the table but the truth and as they say in the movies : "You can't handle the truth !!!!!"
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:09 - Jun 17 with 1567 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:36 - Jun 17 by WarwickHunt

Swivel eyes and drool, possibly.

He's bonkers mental.


What a predictable reply all insults and nothing else .
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:13 - Jun 17 with 1560 viewsWarwickHunt

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:09 - Jun 17 by howenjack

What a predictable reply all insults and nothing else .


Pointless arguing with pork.

Now fûck off, dipshit.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:26 - Jun 17 with 1554 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:13 - Jun 17 by WarwickHunt

Pointless arguing with pork.

Now fûck off, dipshit.


If I wanted to listen to an arse hole I'd fart.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:54 - Jun 17 with 1534 viewsWarwickHunt

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:26 - Jun 17 by howenjack

If I wanted to listen to an arse hole I'd fart.


Arsehole is one word, dopey cûnt..

Stop digging, fûckwit - it’s like watching Paul Merson on Only Connect.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 16:23 - Jun 17 with 1518 viewscostalotta

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 15:00 - Jun 17 by howenjack

I bring nothing to the table but the truth and as they say in the movies : "You can't handle the truth !!!!!"


Go on then...I’ll humour you for one post as you seem to ‘know the truth’.

“corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal” can you explain this with credible evidence ?


“we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).” Are you sure? Supply the evdence and then explain how we were lied to. Go on, give us all that cannot handle the truth a history lesson.


“It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines”. Again, explain how and why and supply the relevant evidence.

“that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth”. This is a corker but your words. Please explain so that we understand.

“Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . “ what is too late?

We as a country have woken up at long last . I’ll give you this one. The country is waking up to the morons who spout fantasy but cannitbthen credibly explain what any of it is.

Genuinely interested.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 19:59 - Jun 17 with 1478 viewsJack59

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:10 - Jun 17 by howenjack

It means we will leave a corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).
It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth. Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . We as a country have woken up at long last .


I'm nearly 70, so I've seen the EU monster develop from the very beginning, and I still never got the inexpensive quality wines which we should have had.

Sadly, everything you say is quite accurate.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 20:41 - Jun 17 with 1458 viewshowenjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 16:23 - Jun 17 by costalotta

Go on then...I’ll humour you for one post as you seem to ‘know the truth’.

“corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal” can you explain this with credible evidence ?


“we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).” Are you sure? Supply the evdence and then explain how we were lied to. Go on, give us all that cannot handle the truth a history lesson.


“It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines”. Again, explain how and why and supply the relevant evidence.

“that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth”. This is a corker but your words. Please explain so that we understand.

“Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . “ what is too late?

We as a country have woken up at long last . I’ll give you this one. The country is waking up to the morons who spout fantasy but cannitbthen credibly explain what any of it is.

Genuinely interested.


The EU as we know it was the idea of post war Germany and France getting together to form the istc . This was a safety valve to ensure that neither germany nor France would attempt to use steel manufacture to rearm and lead potentially to another war in Europe. Not surprisingly there were a few ex nazis in the set up from the start. They thought of it as a way of achieving what Hitler had failed through force -a pan European superstate. This was in 1957. Ted heath took us in on the promise that it was solely a trading bloc lol and that our sovereignty would not be compromised . The name had changed at this point to the eec the European economic community . This was in 1972 I think .The ussr was run on the same lines central govt ( Brussels ) in charge and overseeing the satellite countries in the "club"
Slowly but surely eec evolves and changes it's name to the EU . This signifies "greater union" emphasis and not only for trade but lawmaking.Any conflict between EU law and English law will result in primacy of the ecj. So basically our law making capacity has been superseded BY Europe where there is a conflict . So a trading bloc has now got far reaching powers never deemed possible at its inception.
Day to day run of the mill influences on the law with regards to working practices etc are done through bureaucratic orders called directives or conventions passed by Brussels which are nonetheless binding on a member state.
Larger powers have been accrued through prime ministers signing away bits of our sovergnty people Like Blair Major - in treaties .The EU ensures people in power carry out the agenda through payments of sorts Heseltine was an example . Many like Kinnock are offered jobs for the boys on huge salaries for "services "rendered or head up quangos funded by the EU. Again on inflated salaries paid for by the tax payer.

One of the far reaching implications is the EU arrest warrant. You can be arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime in a far off EU country and thrown in jail there even though you might be totally innocent. Habeas corpus was an enshrined right in Magna carta but EU law circumvents that.
The true significance of the EU is in the word union . Greater and greater union will mean eventually a European police force and army and a european flag.European Nations as we Know them will have a dilution of identity this is carried out using frankfurt subversion school policies look them up and you will instantly recognise them.
President Gorbachev himself shook his head when asked about the EU . Saying we have gone through Glasnost and reversed the USSR. You are beginning to do the exact opposite
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 21:47 - Jun 17 with 1426 viewslonglostjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 18:12 - Jun 16 by londonlisa2001

Someone pointed out the other day that he looks just like the bloke on Hi-De-Hi that Gladys Pugh spent her time lusting after (was he called Jeffrey?)

Anyway - it’s now impossible to see him as anything else.


They were part of a mass cloning experiment conducted at a secret research institute in Twickenham.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 21:51 - Jun 17 with 1419 viewsNookiejack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 20:41 - Jun 17 by howenjack

The EU as we know it was the idea of post war Germany and France getting together to form the istc . This was a safety valve to ensure that neither germany nor France would attempt to use steel manufacture to rearm and lead potentially to another war in Europe. Not surprisingly there were a few ex nazis in the set up from the start. They thought of it as a way of achieving what Hitler had failed through force -a pan European superstate. This was in 1957. Ted heath took us in on the promise that it was solely a trading bloc lol and that our sovereignty would not be compromised . The name had changed at this point to the eec the European economic community . This was in 1972 I think .The ussr was run on the same lines central govt ( Brussels ) in charge and overseeing the satellite countries in the "club"
Slowly but surely eec evolves and changes it's name to the EU . This signifies "greater union" emphasis and not only for trade but lawmaking.Any conflict between EU law and English law will result in primacy of the ecj. So basically our law making capacity has been superseded BY Europe where there is a conflict . So a trading bloc has now got far reaching powers never deemed possible at its inception.
Day to day run of the mill influences on the law with regards to working practices etc are done through bureaucratic orders called directives or conventions passed by Brussels which are nonetheless binding on a member state.
Larger powers have been accrued through prime ministers signing away bits of our sovergnty people Like Blair Major - in treaties .The EU ensures people in power carry out the agenda through payments of sorts Heseltine was an example . Many like Kinnock are offered jobs for the boys on huge salaries for "services "rendered or head up quangos funded by the EU. Again on inflated salaries paid for by the tax payer.

One of the far reaching implications is the EU arrest warrant. You can be arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime in a far off EU country and thrown in jail there even though you might be totally innocent. Habeas corpus was an enshrined right in Magna carta but EU law circumvents that.
The true significance of the EU is in the word union . Greater and greater union will mean eventually a European police force and army and a european flag.European Nations as we Know them will have a dilution of identity this is carried out using frankfurt subversion school policies look them up and you will instantly recognise them.
President Gorbachev himself shook his head when asked about the EU . Saying we have gone through Glasnost and reversed the USSR. You are beginning to do the exact opposite


This is what the Remainers need to ask themselves - do they want even more political integration, given how hard it is currently to get out.

What happens if Brexit is reversed - imagine the political power the EU will hold over us.

Why can’t a series of loose trading nation vote to leave and join a trading bloc? Why is is so difficult to leave?

How is the Euro ever going to work without full fiscal integration. One taxation system across the EU. So that the richer nations transfer their tax receipts to Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain.

Is that what Remainers really want?
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 21:57 - Jun 17 with 1410 viewssherpajacob

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:10 - Jun 17 by howenjack

It means we will leave a corrupt rotten money grabbing cabal we never asked to join in the first place ( we were lied to as a nation then and we've been lied to ever since ).
It's a power hungry institution modelled on communist lines that hides behind a false persona of a trade organization when in fact it's true purpose is to steal nations' sovereignty by stealth. Then when people finally realise the truth it will be too late . We as a country have woken up at long last .


A passionate plea for Welsh independence there.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:53 - Jun 18 with 1328 viewsfelixstowe_jack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:13 - Jun 16 by londonlisa2001

A lot of problems wouldn’t have festered if the bunch of right wing bigots currently dominating the Conservative party had been told to sit down and shut up.


As opposed to the extreme left wing bigots running labour called momentum.

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:06 - Jun 18 with 1298 viewswaynekerr55

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 08:53 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack

As opposed to the extreme left wing bigots running labour called momentum.


You do realise that Lisa is far from a left wing skip dweller, don't you?

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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:13 - Jun 18 with 1294 viewsHighjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:29 - Jun 17 by waynekerr55

What exactly does "Brexit means Brexit" actually mean?


Brexit means brexit means brexit means brexit.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:42 - Jun 18 with 1271 viewsHighjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:25 - Jun 17 by costalotta

Fair play! Communist hahahahaha.

So you cannot answer what Brexit is then? Plus, your post is nothing more than a rant of an uneducated and clueless fool. You bring nothing to the table.


It’s definitely not communist.

When you look at all the main players in the EU most are at least centre right and some would be considered well to the right if they were in the Tory party, this is why I can never understand why the left seem to love the EU so much.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:54 - Jun 18 with 1255 viewscostalotta

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 10:42 - Jun 18 by Highjack

It’s definitely not communist.

When you look at all the main players in the EU most are at least centre right and some would be considered well to the right if they were in the Tory party, this is why I can never understand why the left seem to love the EU so much.


Becuase it’s not a political envy thing? It’s about coming together in so many ways. That means compromise in many ways. It’s the centre ground is where compromise happens. It doesn’t happen on either the far right or left. Which is why both are out of date and have create divisive politics that live off fear, fake news and ignoring reality whilst promoting unicorns ON BOTH SIDES (left and right).

So what surprises me in this age of information is that so many people can be so easily fooled ! As they have been. And they’re getting much better at fooling the people.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:17 - Jun 18 with 1233 viewsHighjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 11:54 - Jun 18 by costalotta

Becuase it’s not a political envy thing? It’s about coming together in so many ways. That means compromise in many ways. It’s the centre ground is where compromise happens. It doesn’t happen on either the far right or left. Which is why both are out of date and have create divisive politics that live off fear, fake news and ignoring reality whilst promoting unicorns ON BOTH SIDES (left and right).

So what surprises me in this age of information is that so many people can be so easily fooled ! As they have been. And they’re getting much better at fooling the people.


Let me clarify. The left in this country would be absolutely horrified if somebody like Rees Mogg became leader. He is opposed to abortion, he would happily privatise everything that isn’t nailed down. Slash the welfare state etc.

Yet they are happy with Donald Tusk being their president when he has a long history of being opposed to legalising abortion, privatising state owned institutions etc in Poland.

Junker, Barnier, Van rompoy or whatever is name was are in the same bracket. Long histories in their countries of creating conditions “good for business” by slashing and hacking away at public services, driving down wages, slashing tax for big businesses like Amazon in Luxembourg etc.

Why are people of a more socialist persuasion able to support these policies when the EU commission does it but when a Tory party does exactly the same thing it’s the worst thing ever?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:31 - Jun 18 with 1229 viewscostalotta

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:17 - Jun 18 by Highjack

Let me clarify. The left in this country would be absolutely horrified if somebody like Rees Mogg became leader. He is opposed to abortion, he would happily privatise everything that isn’t nailed down. Slash the welfare state etc.

Yet they are happy with Donald Tusk being their president when he has a long history of being opposed to legalising abortion, privatising state owned institutions etc in Poland.

Junker, Barnier, Van rompoy or whatever is name was are in the same bracket. Long histories in their countries of creating conditions “good for business” by slashing and hacking away at public services, driving down wages, slashing tax for big businesses like Amazon in Luxembourg etc.

Why are people of a more socialist persuasion able to support these policies when the EU commission does it but when a Tory party does exactly the same thing it’s the worst thing ever?


Is abortion illegal in this country? Or France? Or Germany?

So, Tusk was as successful as JRM then? In fact, JRM would have more of a chance than Tusk of getting abortion through. But of course neither will be successful.

Do you get to Europe much? Because from my experience of working, travelling and staying inEurope they’re public services are light years ahead of ours. Sad but true!
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:44 - Jun 18 with 1204 viewsHighjack

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 12:31 - Jun 18 by costalotta

Is abortion illegal in this country? Or France? Or Germany?

So, Tusk was as successful as JRM then? In fact, JRM would have more of a chance than Tusk of getting abortion through. But of course neither will be successful.

Do you get to Europe much? Because from my experience of working, travelling and staying inEurope they’re public services are light years ahead of ours. Sad but true!


Abortion is illegal in Poland except in the event of rape or incest or when the baby is malformed. Tusk was leader of Poland for many years. Why are remainers happy to condone and support people like this to be president of the European council but then simultaneously condemn people like JRM and Trump for anti abortion stances?

Tusk would be well to the right of the Tory party.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:54 - Jun 18 with 1188 viewslondonlisa2001

‘If there’s no other way you’ve got to bring the government down’ on 13:44 - Jun 18 by Highjack

Abortion is illegal in Poland except in the event of rape or incest or when the baby is malformed. Tusk was leader of Poland for many years. Why are remainers happy to condone and support people like this to be president of the European council but then simultaneously condemn people like JRM and Trump for anti abortion stances?

Tusk would be well to the right of the Tory party.

The hypocrisy is astounding.


The Eu doesn’t decide abortion policy in the UK.

Happy to help.
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