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C4 Tory Leadership debate 18:32 - Jun 16 with 14518 viewsbluey_the_blue

"Six men - and it is all men".

Oh dear.

Each candidate's schooling mentioned.

It's a bear pit as predicted.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:31 - Jun 16 with 1209 viewsbluey_the_blue

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:30 - Jun 16 by londonlisa2001

That’s the depressing part Bluey.

Right now, as always, the priority should be what’s best for the country at large. It’s all that matters.

There are huge swathes of this country genuinely struggling.


Don't disagree, Lisa, but like it or not, we're on hold until Brexit is resolved either way.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:31 - Jun 16 with 1208 viewsNogginthenog

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 19:41 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Raab. Who on earth takes him in any way seriously. What a f*cking idiot. He’s been grinning inanely all night.


Demonic Raab
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:37 - Jun 16 with 1179 viewslondonlisa2001

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:29 - Jun 16 by Professor

Found it very overrated- Gail’s that is.
I believe she was born in Swansea (Sarah Vine not Gail!)


Their sourdough is lovely.

And yes, she was. I don’t think Gail Mejia was :-)
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:42 - Jun 16 with 1167 viewsHumpty

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 19:57 - Jun 16 by dickythorpe

Why wasn't Boris there?


Because his handlers don't trust him to to answer questions for an hour or so without him f*cking it up.

They do think he'd be a good choice for Prime Minister though.

And he's a shit house.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:42 - Jun 16 with 1166 viewsProfessor

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:37 - Jun 16 by londonlisa2001

Their sourdough is lovely.

And yes, she was. I don’t think Gail Mejia was :-)


I was disappointed with it personally. Try to pick up some from the market on Fridays. Whole meal sourdough baked in North Wales. Also an amazing Texan lady doing southern-style
Cakes and tex-mex savouries. No chance of seeing Gove or any columnists there though. Sometimes there is a Labour stall with the local MP.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:44 - Jun 16 with 1161 viewsKilkennyjack

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:04 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

Interesting to see what next round of voting brings.

Suspect Stewart will be bottom. He's not really shown anything at all. Gove will almost certainly increase his votes, he's the one tonight for me who came across as a leader the most.

Can see Raab votes dropping a fair bit after that.


Twitter says Rory won by a landslide tonight.

Were you watching the right channel ?

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:49 - Jun 16 with 1142 viewslondonlisa2001

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:42 - Jun 16 by Professor

I was disappointed with it personally. Try to pick up some from the market on Fridays. Whole meal sourdough baked in North Wales. Also an amazing Texan lady doing southern-style
Cakes and tex-mex savouries. No chance of seeing Gove or any columnists there though. Sometimes there is a Labour stall with the local MP.


The best around here is a bakers called Laveli. But Gail’s is at the end of my road and I’m lazy. And I like their sourdough.

As with most people, try to cut down on the quantity of bread we consume, but when we do have it, I’d prefer a nice loaf than a Warburtons / Hovis type sliced from the supermarket.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:52 - Jun 16 with 1133 viewsbluey_the_blue

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:44 - Jun 16 by Kilkennyjack

Twitter says Rory won by a landslide tonight.

Were you watching the right channel ?


Twitter isn't Tory MPs. Nor is it the Tory membership.

Maybe people are seeing things I'm not, but I don't see any leadership from him, don't see anything other than "hey, I'm a geek, I'm not a normal politician". As I said, this election has come too early for him because his views on Brexit are out of line with Tory MPs and members. Even leaving Brexit aside, I can't see him beating Corbyn. What does Stewart stand for, what are his policies? He's not a great orator either.

I say all that as someone who would have voted for him.

Raab came across as a blithering idiot, Hunt tried to play it safe, Stewart for the most part waffled, Javid was just there. The only one who came across as leadership material in that debate was Gove - like him or not, he's a good speaker.

The BBC debate will involve BoJo, it's the case for whoever's left to take lumps out of BoJo. If the point is looking for a BoJo and Corbyn killer, then so far the only one would be Gove.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:06 - Jun 16 with 1107 viewsexiledclaseboy

The irony is that whoever wins will be in the same position as May. Unable or unwilling to either pass a deal or leave with no deal.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:07 - Jun 16 with 1103 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Good old Boris

How we laugh


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-fumed-fthe-families-1652467

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:09 - Jun 16 with 1101 viewsbluey_the_blue

Come deadline day, don't ask EU for another extension.

What are Parliament going to do in that instance? It's a farcical situation where Parliament say "no, can't leave with no deal. We can't agree a deal to get behind and even if we did, EU may not agree." It just makes zero sense.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:11 - Jun 16 with 1099 viewsexiledclaseboy

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:09 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

Come deadline day, don't ask EU for another extension.

What are Parliament going to do in that instance? It's a farcical situation where Parliament say "no, can't leave with no deal. We can't agree a deal to get behind and even if we did, EU may not agree." It just makes zero sense.


Parliament brings down the government and precipitates a general election.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:13 - Jun 16 with 1095 viewsbluey_the_blue

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:11 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Parliament brings down the government and precipitates a general election.


And then yet more chaos, wastes months on an election only to get back to the same damn situation because Parliament can't agree anything... maybe we could reduce the fixed term from 5 years to a single year if that's the way we're going.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:17 - Jun 16 with 1081 viewsexiledclaseboy

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:13 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

And then yet more chaos, wastes months on an election only to get back to the same damn situation because Parliament can't agree anything... maybe we could reduce the fixed term from 5 years to a single year if that's the way we're going.
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Depends on the outcome of the election doesn’t it. If leave with no deal parties win enough seats to get that through parliament, job done. If remain/second referendum parties get enough seats to get that through parliament job also done. One thing that’s blindingly clear is that the current parliament won’t allow leaving with no deal so either the policy has to change or the parliament does.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:19 - Jun 16 with 1071 viewsbluey_the_blue

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:17 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Depends on the outcome of the election doesn’t it. If leave with no deal parties win enough seats to get that through parliament, job done. If remain/second referendum parties get enough seats to get that through parliament job also done. One thing that’s blindingly clear is that the current parliament won’t allow leaving with no deal so either the policy has to change or the parliament does.


Worst case scenario is then leave without no deal parties win enough votes. Then it's back to the same old, same old.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:20 - Jun 16 with 1067 viewsFlashberryjack

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:17 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Depends on the outcome of the election doesn’t it. If leave with no deal parties win enough seats to get that through parliament, job done. If remain/second referendum parties get enough seats to get that through parliament job also done. One thing that’s blindingly clear is that the current parliament won’t allow leaving with no deal so either the policy has to change or the parliament does.


Just about sums it up i'm afraid.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:23 - Jun 16 with 1057 viewsWarwickHunt

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 20:29 - Jun 16 by Professor

Found it very overrated- Gail’s that is.
I believe she was born in Swansea (Sarah Vine not Gail!)


Gail’s closed down in Sheen. Too downmarket...

Like the olive bread though.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:26 - Jun 16 with 1053 viewsHighjack

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:11 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy

Parliament brings down the government and precipitates a general election.


Would the tories vote for that though? Don’t you need two thirds of mps for a no confidence vote? Not sure if the numbers would be there given their penchant for self preservation?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:28 - Jun 16 with 1050 viewsexiledclaseboy

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:26 - Jun 16 by Highjack

Would the tories vote for that though? Don’t you need two thirds of mps for a no confidence vote? Not sure if the numbers would be there given their penchant for self preservation?


No you don’t need two thirds of MPs for a no confidence vote. Just a simple majority.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:33 - Jun 16 with 1038 viewssherpajacob



The Logan's run manifesto.

Must admit, it would solve a hell of a lot.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:38 - Jun 16 with 1024 viewsWarwickHunt

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:33 - Jun 16 by sherpajacob



The Logan's run manifesto.

Must admit, it would solve a hell of a lot.


Two errors in the second sentence, Jeremy.

Thick cûnt.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:39 - Jun 16 with 1017 viewsexiledclaseboy

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:38 - Jun 16 by WarwickHunt

Two errors in the second sentence, Jeremy.

Thick cûnt.


He was banging on about illiterate kids earlier too. The tw@t.

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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:41 - Jun 16 with 1006 viewsbluey_the_blue

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:38 - Jun 16 by WarwickHunt

Two errors in the second sentence, Jeremy.

Thick cûnt.


Incorrect use of comma?
It should be "that sorts it out" not "who sorts it out"?
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:43 - Jun 16 with 997 viewsWarwickHunt

C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:41 - Jun 16 by bluey_the_blue

Incorrect use of comma?
It should be "that sorts it out" not "who sorts it out"?


Correct.

Your first decent post this year.
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C4 Tory Leadership debate on 21:44 - Jun 16 with 991 viewsMrSwerve

Also no full stop at the end!

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