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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 11:55 - Jul 25 with 960 viewsTummer_from_Texas

In summary, Trump wasn't exonerated because exoneration is never part of a prosecutor's job.

That said, I was almost embarrassed for Mueller, how bad and incompetent he looked yesterday. He didn't even know who Fusion GPS was. Even the casual observer knows that Fusion GPS is the law firm that commissioned the Steele Dossier - the phony report that started this whole witch hunt.
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 14:49 - Jul 25 with 890 viewsJonathans_coat

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 11:55 - Jul 25 by Tummer_from_Texas

In summary, Trump wasn't exonerated because exoneration is never part of a prosecutor's job.

That said, I was almost embarrassed for Mueller, how bad and incompetent he looked yesterday. He didn't even know who Fusion GPS was. Even the casual observer knows that Fusion GPS is the law firm that commissioned the Steele Dossier - the phony report that started this whole witch hunt.
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Not a huge follower of this (for example I don’t have a clue who fusion gps are!), but if exoneration was NEVER in Muellers remit, don’t you think it was a little disingenuous that Trump and his team have been repeatedly saying that Trump has been “completely exonerated” by his report. Especially as the report actually specifically states the opposite.
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 14:55 - Jul 25 with 876 viewsDarran

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 14:49 - Jul 25 by Jonathans_coat

Not a huge follower of this (for example I don’t have a clue who fusion gps are!), but if exoneration was NEVER in Muellers remit, don’t you think it was a little disingenuous that Trump and his team have been repeatedly saying that Trump has been “completely exonerated” by his report. Especially as the report actually specifically states the opposite.


I’m sick of hearing about the bouffant ćunt on here that’s for sure.

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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 15:43 - Jul 25 with 845 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 14:49 - Jul 25 by Jonathans_coat

Not a huge follower of this (for example I don’t have a clue who fusion gps are!), but if exoneration was NEVER in Muellers remit, don’t you think it was a little disingenuous that Trump and his team have been repeatedly saying that Trump has been “completely exonerated” by his report. Especially as the report actually specifically states the opposite.


Yes, and it was just as disingenuous for the mainstream media (outside of Fox) to constantly push this false narrative, in order to feed the anti-Trump horde that still wants to cling to the possibility of impeachment:




This whole thing is two dueling sh!t piles of lies.
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:26 - Jul 25 with 803 viewsLeonWasGod

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 15:43 - Jul 25 by Tummer_from_Texas

Yes, and it was just as disingenuous for the mainstream media (outside of Fox) to constantly push this false narrative, in order to feed the anti-Trump horde that still wants to cling to the possibility of impeachment:




This whole thing is two dueling sh!t piles of lies.
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What are we missing on this then?

Mueller identifies behaviour indicative of obstruction of justice
Trump says the report proves he's free of any wrongdoing
Mueller confirms that er, no, that's not what the report said at all

What's the Fox News version?
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:27 - Jul 25 with 802 viewsexiledclaseboy

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:26 - Jul 25 by LeonWasGod

What are we missing on this then?

Mueller identifies behaviour indicative of obstruction of justice
Trump says the report proves he's free of any wrongdoing
Mueller confirms that er, no, that's not what the report said at all

What's the Fox News version?
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Trump is awesome.

Thank god for the unbiased Fox News. A bastion of balance.

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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 17:14 - Jul 25 with 775 viewsEbo

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 15:43 - Jul 25 by Tummer_from_Texas

Yes, and it was just as disingenuous for the mainstream media (outside of Fox) to constantly push this false narrative, in order to feed the anti-Trump horde that still wants to cling to the possibility of impeachment:




This whole thing is two dueling sh!t piles of lies.
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"for the mainstream media (outside of Fox)"

Ah gotcha.

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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:28 - Jul 26 with 641 viewssnork44

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 17:14 - Jul 25 by Ebo

"for the mainstream media (outside of Fox)"

Ah gotcha.


Ah , but the mainstream media outside of 'Fox News' is just conspiracy theories and just a blatant hatred of the orange man. Just look on YouTube at Rachel Maddow on MSMBC or Don Lemon on CNN to see two talking heads who spout out their wacky theories or plain loathing of Trump. The Donald is crass, bombastic and has an ego the size of Jupiter, but like him or not he is the elected leader of the country ( something we can't say about Boris!) and he has turned around the economy. The Muller report proved nothing and the main reason for the report according to the Democrats was a vehicle to impeach the President , well Mullers performance killed that baby once and for all. This and the projection of 'The Squad' has diverted attention away from the election campaign of the Democratic candidates who as a group look pretty piss poor at the moment!

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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 18:02 - Jul 26 with 624 viewsJackSomething

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:28 - Jul 26 by snork44

Ah , but the mainstream media outside of 'Fox News' is just conspiracy theories and just a blatant hatred of the orange man. Just look on YouTube at Rachel Maddow on MSMBC or Don Lemon on CNN to see two talking heads who spout out their wacky theories or plain loathing of Trump. The Donald is crass, bombastic and has an ego the size of Jupiter, but like him or not he is the elected leader of the country ( something we can't say about Boris!) and he has turned around the economy. The Muller report proved nothing and the main reason for the report according to the Democrats was a vehicle to impeach the President , well Mullers performance killed that baby once and for all. This and the projection of 'The Squad' has diverted attention away from the election campaign of the Democratic candidates who as a group look pretty piss poor at the moment!


Not going to argue about much of that (both sides of the political spectrum as bad as each other, Democrats look a mess), but this idea that Trump has 'turned around the economy' confuses me.

Every analysis I've seen shows that the economy has in many areas continued on the upwards trend they were on during Obama's time in office and while it has improved in other areas, some of those are cyclical and prone to peaks and troughs irrespective of who is in office. I believe some areas have gone up, but nowhere near enough to claim Trump has turned around the economy.

It sounds like the kind of fake news he so hates. If there is analysis that shows me I'm wrong, I'd be very interested to see it.

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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 18:49 - Jul 26 with 600 viewsGlyn1

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:28 - Jul 26 by snork44

Ah , but the mainstream media outside of 'Fox News' is just conspiracy theories and just a blatant hatred of the orange man. Just look on YouTube at Rachel Maddow on MSMBC or Don Lemon on CNN to see two talking heads who spout out their wacky theories or plain loathing of Trump. The Donald is crass, bombastic and has an ego the size of Jupiter, but like him or not he is the elected leader of the country ( something we can't say about Boris!) and he has turned around the economy. The Muller report proved nothing and the main reason for the report according to the Democrats was a vehicle to impeach the President , well Mullers performance killed that baby once and for all. This and the projection of 'The Squad' has diverted attention away from the election campaign of the Democratic candidates who as a group look pretty piss poor at the moment!


Except he didn't "turn around the economy". It was doing very well under Obama and is still doing very well under Trump.

Of course Trump deserves credit for that, just not all of the credit.

Presidents running for re-election during good economic times usually do get re-elected.
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 20:34 - Jul 26 with 567 viewslondonlisa2001

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 16:28 - Jul 26 by snork44

Ah , but the mainstream media outside of 'Fox News' is just conspiracy theories and just a blatant hatred of the orange man. Just look on YouTube at Rachel Maddow on MSMBC or Don Lemon on CNN to see two talking heads who spout out their wacky theories or plain loathing of Trump. The Donald is crass, bombastic and has an ego the size of Jupiter, but like him or not he is the elected leader of the country ( something we can't say about Boris!) and he has turned around the economy. The Muller report proved nothing and the main reason for the report according to the Democrats was a vehicle to impeach the President , well Mullers performance killed that baby once and for all. This and the projection of 'The Squad' has diverted attention away from the election campaign of the Democratic candidates who as a group look pretty piss poor at the moment!


He hasn’t turned around the economy.

What he has done, however, is stimulate American companies and American jobs through his corporation tax changes. He’s dropped US corporation tax rates, told US companies he’d charge them wherever in the world they made profits, allowed them to repatriate profits with an amnesty of a ten year (I think it’s ten) repayment plan so has brought worldwide profits onshore. The companies don’t care where they pay their taxes, so it’s helped the onshore receipts.

To achieve that, he’s hugely increased US debt. In many ways, a fairly ‘left wing’ (in UK terms) approach to economic stimulation, albeit spending on different things.

The acid test will be the effect of those policies in the longer term. If and when the global economy stutters, the increased debt repayment s will start to bite. And the effect of repatriation of tax income is a one off (once repatriated, that’s it). In which case US companies will look again at their options and the overall US receipts will reduce.

Trump is relatively short-term in his approach. A stimulus for the short term gets him re-elected and by the time such profligacy bites, he’s out of there and blaming the (probably) Democrat successor. Quite a private equity mindset, if you like.

The ‘Squad’ issue is one of Trump’s making of course.
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Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 00:00 - Jul 27 with 520 viewssnork44

Trump was NOT exonerated and here's WHY on 20:34 - Jul 26 by londonlisa2001

He hasn’t turned around the economy.

What he has done, however, is stimulate American companies and American jobs through his corporation tax changes. He’s dropped US corporation tax rates, told US companies he’d charge them wherever in the world they made profits, allowed them to repatriate profits with an amnesty of a ten year (I think it’s ten) repayment plan so has brought worldwide profits onshore. The companies don’t care where they pay their taxes, so it’s helped the onshore receipts.

To achieve that, he’s hugely increased US debt. In many ways, a fairly ‘left wing’ (in UK terms) approach to economic stimulation, albeit spending on different things.

The acid test will be the effect of those policies in the longer term. If and when the global economy stutters, the increased debt repayment s will start to bite. And the effect of repatriation of tax income is a one off (once repatriated, that’s it). In which case US companies will look again at their options and the overall US receipts will reduce.

Trump is relatively short-term in his approach. A stimulus for the short term gets him re-elected and by the time such profligacy bites, he’s out of there and blaming the (probably) Democrat successor. Quite a private equity mindset, if you like.

The ‘Squad’ issue is one of Trump’s making of course.


Lisa the 'The Squad' were bumping their gums long before Trumps idiotic tweets , they called Nancy Pelosi a racist and all four of them haven't got one functioning brain cell between them. They were tearing each other apart , big time. So instead of Trump opening a bottle of Diet Coke and dipping into a box of popcorn putting his feet up and watch the silly girls and Pelosi have a bitch fest , his ego had to get to the phone and hit Twitter.

Over here some of the right wing pundits are claiming that Mr Orange is a genius because he has highlighted these four to divert attention away from an excruciatingly bad line up the Democrats have got as Presidential candidates, thus making out that 'The Squad' are the true voice of the Democratic Party and not the 20 people running to take on Trump.
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