| An Independent Wales 17:59 - Jul 28 with 6842 views | SgorioFruit |
Its not a matter of if, more like a matter of WHEN |  |
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| An Independent Wales on 08:42 - Jul 30 with 809 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| An Independent Wales on 19:39 - Jul 28 by ItchySphincter |
ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
....nah.................................. |
We would be a Third World Country in no time at all! |  | | |
| An Independent Wales on 09:46 - Jul 30 with 786 views | johnlangy |
| An Independent Wales on 01:06 - Jul 30 by Kerouac |
We have had a Welsh Prime Minister.
We have had many Welsh cabinet ministers.
We have a Welsh Assembly which means that how the money is spent in Wales is largely decided by Welsh politicians we elect...and the Welsh Assembly has more money to spend on Wales than Welsh tax payers generate.
We are also part of a political system where 3/4 parties depend on our votes for their seats at Westminster...we, the Welsh, diminish our power at the ballot box by returning the same political party at each and every election MAKING THE COURTING OF OUR VOTES BY THE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES VIRTUALLY POINTLESS AND IRRELEVANT.
How on earth do you think you'll have more influence in a Wales that uses the Euro (so monetary policy is set in Germany) and surrenders much of it's policy and law to the European Commission?!?!?!?
You know, that place where the top jobs are always divvied out amongst the big boys in backroom deals conducted in a different language.
Please at least try to explain that one... |
I'll maybe revisit this post later but i'll cover this one now -
'and the Welsh Assembly has more money to spend on Wales than Welsh tax payers generate'.
The WAG budget is still around £16 billion. Even the ONS reports that Welsh taxes come to £25 billion never mind calculating all the Welsh taxes registered in England and, therefore, not included in the ONS figure. | | | |
| An Independent Wales on 14:26 - Jul 30 with 709 views | londonlisa2001 |
| An Independent Wales on 01:58 - Jul 30 by Kerouac |
Everyone up and down this country know exactly who is doing the conning thanks...
- The Westminster establishment
- The Labour Party
- The frauds at the BBC who have the brass neck to call themselves journalists.
Don't believe me?
This isn't an opinion, this is fact, demonstrable...
- The referendum result itself.
- The last General Election, which the Tories won with the most votes ever, campaigning on a platform of Brexit means Brexit.
(I don't know if you remember but Labour played a con trick on the electorate, also campaigning on a Brexit platform...when speaking to their working class audience... whilst speaking over the heads of the working class to reassure every middle-class 'Remainer' in the land that a vote for them was the best way to try and block Brexit at Westminster...chuck in the old "the milky bars are on me" trick and they managed to get the result they wanted.
Now however, the TRUTH is out and they will have to fight the forthcoming election with all of their Brexit voters understanding fully what their game has been. Good luck with that one!
- The European elections which every 'Remainer' I know threw themselves into...for some of them it must have been the first time they'd ever voted in a European election never mind campaigned...oh how they wanted to make a point at that one...and we ALL know who actually won at the ballot box don't we.
You are part of the London elite Lisa, don't play that "how much money have they got?" and "where did they go to school?" game with me...
Do you really want me to go through the list of Labour grandees, ministers and prominent 'Remainer's?
You must know that they are largely from similar backgrounds as your little list.
By your logic Ted Heath wasn't a part of the London elite, because his father was a carpenter and his mother a maid...Maggie Thatcher wasn't part of the elite because of her background...John Major etc.
You are a member of the elite because you moved to London for the big bucks and you are doing very well (thank-you very much) and because you are in that tiny little red section of the referendum map that voted remain.
It is SO amusing that you have spent so much time and energy arguing for our membership of a political union (the EU) yet when it comes to the small political union you and your ancestors have always been a part of (the UK)...you can't bring yourself to respect the vote of the other citizens of that political union.
This attitude betrays your elitism.
Your support for the EU therefore makes perfect sense, because it has constructed political institutions that are designed to ignore the wishes of provincial voters, a plutocracy.
The majority in Scotland you talk about?
May I remind you that at the last General Election...you know, the one AFTER the referendum result to leave the EU, the one where both of the major political parties of Westminster campaigned on a Brexit ticket...the SNP LOST 21 (T-W-E-N-T-Y O-N-E) seats in Scotland.
Now, please elaborate on our shared European culture and History and honestly compare the EU with the UK on this metric.
Go on, I dare you  |
I have no idea why you think I’m a Labour supporter. I can’t stand Corbyn and his merry band of fantasists.
The rest of your post is equally nonsensical and I can’t be bothered.
The only thing I will say, is you know that whole Christian tradition you argue in favour of the whole time, when you’re ranting about Muslims? That’s European shared culture that you’re arguing for. The one you now say doesn’t exist. | | | |
| An Independent Wales on 15:07 - Jul 30 with 674 views | Lohengrin |
| An Independent Wales on 14:26 - Jul 30 by londonlisa2001 |
I have no idea why you think I’m a Labour supporter. I can’t stand Corbyn and his merry band of fantasists.
The rest of your post is equally nonsensical and I can’t be bothered.
The only thing I will say, is you know that whole Christian tradition you argue in favour of the whole time, when you’re ranting about Muslims? That’s European shared culture that you’re arguing for. The one you now say doesn’t exist. |
It exists alright, Lis. I’m walking, talking proof of that. A few days ago I left them all by the pool and drove an hour up the coast to have a nose at the on-going protests at the removal of the Cruz de los caidos de Callosa.
All neat Brylcreem and white linen shirt I bought a rose from a street vendor and laid it where the Cross had been, took two steps back and bowed. Quick as a flash I had an elderly lady on either arm wanting to know who I was? After explaining in my halting Spanish, which is very stiff and formal as I don’t know how to abbreviate and don’t know regional slang, I was escorted over to a table and had a glass of Rioja and a slice of home made cake thrust at me. Averring that I really shouldn’t but in the face of such beauty I was powerless to resist I think I managed more for Anglo-Spanish relations in ten minutes than our respective governments have in ten years.  |  |
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| An Independent Wales on 15:12 - Jul 30 with 671 views | londonlisa2001 |
| An Independent Wales on 15:07 - Jul 30 by Lohengrin |
It exists alright, Lis. I’m walking, talking proof of that. A few days ago I left them all by the pool and drove an hour up the coast to have a nose at the on-going protests at the removal of the Cruz de los caidos de Callosa.
All neat Brylcreem and white linen shirt I bought a rose from a street vendor and laid it where the Cross had been, took two steps back and bowed. Quick as a flash I had an elderly lady on either arm wanting to know who I was? After explaining in my halting Spanish, which is very stiff and formal as I don’t know how to abbreviate and don’t know regional slang, I was escorted over to a table and had a glass of Rioja and a slice of home made cake thrust at me. Averring that I really shouldn’t but in the face of such beauty I was powerless to resist I think I managed more for Anglo-Spanish relations in ten minutes than our respective governments have in ten years. |
Of course it exists. It’s a shared history of art, music, literature, religion, law, government, architecture, institutions etc etc etc. It’s Kerouac that is arguing with me that there’s no such thing as European culture. | | | |
| An Independent Wales on 15:14 - Jul 30 with 665 views | Lohengrin |
| An Independent Wales on 15:12 - Jul 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Of course it exists. It’s a shared history of art, music, literature, religion, law, government, architecture, institutions etc etc etc. It’s Kerouac that is arguing with me that there’s no such thing as European culture. |
I know you know, I was just bragging that octogenarian Spanish widows think I’m the next Bond! | |
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| An Independent Wales on 16:00 - Jul 30 with 648 views | Ebo |
| An Independent Wales on 15:14 - Jul 30 by Lohengrin |
I know you know, I was just bragging that octogenarian Spanish widows think I’m the next Bond! |
Lucky you didn’t whip out the old guitar. They would have been yelling “Django is alive!!” |  |
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| An Independent Wales on 16:16 - Jul 30 with 633 views | Lohengrin |
| An Independent Wales on 16:00 - Jul 30 by Ebo |
Lucky you didn’t whip out the old guitar. They would have been yelling “Django is alive!!” |
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| An Independent Wales on 18:41 - Jul 30 with 581 views | Kilkennyjack |
| An Independent Wales on 07:57 - Jul 30 by Yossarian |
Read my post again you thick kent. No one, except you, said ‘Go home’, no one , except you, mentioned people of different skin colour. Just goes to show how twisted the Nationalist are. Someone who doesn’t share their little world view it’s enough to provoke your nasty bile and vitriol. Dream on son....because that’s all you’ve got. You certainly aren’t capable of persuasion. |
Here it is ...
‘....you might feel more comfortable living in ‘The Free State’ with an Irish Passport? I would encourage you to live your dream of living in a State....’
I think thats comprehensively ‘go home’.
Why mention it otherwise ?
I called you out on it and you don't like being exposed.
Only one thick kent on this thread mate, and its you. |  |
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| An Independent Wales on 22:32 - Jul 30 with 544 views | blaenaugwentjack |
| An Independent Wales on 08:42 - Jul 30 by AlfieMooresSon |
We would be a Third World Country in no time at all! |
And we are not heading for third world status, while geographically sitting next one of the worlds wealthiest countries? Never mind the nearly two trillion debt that the uk is carrying. | | | |
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