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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong 12:07 - Aug 13 with 1069 viewswestwalesed

Reports this morning of the Chinese Army moving into Hong Kong - this could get very, very bad indeed.

My personal view is that if it does kick off, the UK should be offering immediate asylum to anyone with a Hong Kong passport who wants it.

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Countdown to the end of on 13:21 - Aug 13 with 889 viewsPegojack

Yes Ed, I'm sure Marc Francois and the rest of the crypto fascists in the Tory Party will go for that idea.

Anyway, perhaps Boris will send a gunboat
Oh wait...we haven't got any, and Boris and crew have got their tongues up the Chinese government's arse in pursuit of a fairy tale trade deal.
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 13:31 - Aug 13 with 863 viewslonglostjack

Even if they haven't got millions of pounds earned through dubious criminal activities? That would be most un-Tory like.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 13:56 - Aug 13 with 827 viewscontroversial_jack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 13:31 - Aug 13 by longlostjack

Even if they haven't got millions of pounds earned through dubious criminal activities? That would be most un-Tory like.


Never mind Hong Kong, it could be happening here if Bellend Boris get's his way and suspends Parliament
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 14:21 - Aug 13 with 804 viewswestwalesed

So disappointing that the potential use of the Chinese Army against unarmed pro-democracy protestors has been ignored on here.

Instead the one thread I try to start to discuss it is taken as an opportunity, again, to bash the Tories.

Worrying.

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Countdown to the end of on 14:39 - Aug 13 with 789 viewswobbly

It’s difficult to know how this gets walked back from here. The two sides are entrenched and the tactics employed by the protestors are such that I don’t think the Hong Kong police can get this under control. Either the protestors decide to stop, which seems unlikely, or the Chinese send in reinforcement.

The news of what’s happening in HK is still very tightly controlled in China. But if there is a whif of contagion from HK I fear those troops currently congregating on the border will cross over to support the already big army contingent that is always deployed in HK (there are some big barracks in Central)
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 14:41 - Aug 13 with 782 viewsjacks777

None of our business. Let them sort it out themselves.
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Countdown to the end of on 14:52 - Aug 13 with 760 viewswestwalesed

Countdown to the end of on 14:39 - Aug 13 by wobbly

It’s difficult to know how this gets walked back from here. The two sides are entrenched and the tactics employed by the protestors are such that I don’t think the Hong Kong police can get this under control. Either the protestors decide to stop, which seems unlikely, or the Chinese send in reinforcement.

The news of what’s happening in HK is still very tightly controlled in China. But if there is a whif of contagion from HK I fear those troops currently congregating on the border will cross over to support the already big army contingent that is always deployed in HK (there are some big barracks in Central)
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I fear that the mantra "enough is enough" may be on the lips of the CCP.

Hong Kong must be a massive cash cow for the Chinese economy as a whole.

This is our problem, until not that long ago it was part of the Empire.

it's no coincidence that many of the protestors are flying the Union Jack.

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Countdown to the end of on 15:05 - Aug 13 with 741 viewslonglostjack

Countdown to the end of on 14:52 - Aug 13 by westwalesed

I fear that the mantra "enough is enough" may be on the lips of the CCP.

Hong Kong must be a massive cash cow for the Chinese economy as a whole.

This is our problem, until not that long ago it was part of the Empire.

it's no coincidence that many of the protestors are flying the Union Jack.


This article is more interesting than the usual pro-Boris drivel in Murdoch's Daily Torygraph.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/07/13/explainer-conflicting-messages-behind-prot

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Countdown to the end of on 15:50 - Aug 13 with 695 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of on 15:05 - Aug 13 by longlostjack

This article is more interesting than the usual pro-Boris drivel in Murdoch's Daily Torygraph.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/07/13/explainer-conflicting-messages-behind-prot


As always the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 16:53 - Aug 13 with 642 viewsPegojack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 14:21 - Aug 13 by westwalesed

So disappointing that the potential use of the Chinese Army against unarmed pro-democracy protestors has been ignored on here.

Instead the one thread I try to start to discuss it is taken as an opportunity, again, to bash the Tories.

Worrying.


OK Ed, let's discuss it.

Hong Kong was a colony of GB until we handed it back to China under treaty 20 years ago.

Since then, the Chinese authorities have allowed the people there to hang on to a few figleaf rights and privileges, probably out of economic expediency. But any thoughts the populace had that they were somehow different from the rest of China was an illusion. And, incidentally, the British government has done everything possible in the meantime to stop Hong Kong citizens from exercising any right to move to Britain to escape.

Yes, it's tragic that the Chinese authorities are now about to crack down hard on people who want democracy and aren't going to be allowed to have it, because where would that lead? It's tragic that exactly the same thing is happening in Russia, as democrats try to stand up to their fascist ruler (a big mate of Trump's).

And it's absolutely tragic that we can do feck all about any of it.
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 16:56 - Aug 13 with 638 viewsDarran

There’s going to be a lot of people disappearing off the face of the earth never to be seen again in Hong Kong.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 16:57 - Aug 13 with 627 viewsFlashberryjack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 16:56 - Aug 13 by Darran

There’s going to be a lot of people disappearing off the face of the earth never to be seen again in Hong Kong.


Boris and Brexits fault mun.
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Countdown to the end of on 16:59 - Aug 13 with 620 viewsEbo

Countdown to the end of on 14:52 - Aug 13 by westwalesed

I fear that the mantra "enough is enough" may be on the lips of the CCP.

Hong Kong must be a massive cash cow for the Chinese economy as a whole.

This is our problem, until not that long ago it was part of the Empire.

it's no coincidence that many of the protestors are flying the Union Jack.


We are not an empire. Repeat after me "We are not an empire"

Thank you

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Countdown to the end of on 17:15 - Aug 13 with 593 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of on 16:59 - Aug 13 by Ebo

We are not an empire. Repeat after me "We are not an empire"

Thank you


You need to believe more, Ebs!


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Countdown to the end of on 17:27 - Aug 13 with 581 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of on 17:15 - Aug 13 by waynekerr55

You need to believe more, Ebs!



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Countdown to the end of on 18:47 - Aug 13 with 519 viewsjacks777

Countdown to the end of on 14:52 - Aug 13 by westwalesed

I fear that the mantra "enough is enough" may be on the lips of the CCP.

Hong Kong must be a massive cash cow for the Chinese economy as a whole.

This is our problem, until not that long ago it was part of the Empire.

it's no coincidence that many of the protestors are flying the Union Jack.


Are you mental 😂
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 18:48 - Aug 13 with 519 viewsUxbridge

The brother in law is in HK at the moment. Not the best timing. Fingers crossed the airports reopen shortly.

Good luck to the locals on this. Showing some industrial levels of balls to stand up to the Chinese Govt.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 19:21 - Aug 13 with 490 viewsicecoldjack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 16:56 - Aug 13 by Darran

There’s going to be a lot of people disappearing off the face of the earth never to be seen again in Hong Kong.


Correct.

IMO The flames of this are being fanned by the Americans , painting the Chinese into a corner with a win win for the USA . The eyes of the world are watching closely but Those poor people there are going to pay a steep price no matter what the outcome, China will be exposed with either the crushing of Hong Kong or if not the beginning of unrest back home, with US sanctions taking an eventual toll.
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 19:30 - Aug 13 with 475 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 18:48 - Aug 13 by Uxbridge

The brother in law is in HK at the moment. Not the best timing. Fingers crossed the airports reopen shortly.

Good luck to the locals on this. Showing some industrial levels of balls to stand up to the Chinese Govt.


Kudos to them for their balls but it absolutely won’t end well for them if this carries on.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 19:42 - Aug 13 with 466 viewsjacks777

Send in Chris Patten. He’ll sort the Chinese out.
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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 20:54 - Aug 13 with 426 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 19:30 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

Kudos to them for their balls but it absolutely won’t end well for them if this carries on.


Oh! I don’t know, Clase. Communists always play well with others, the ghastly, fckin’ things are renowned for it, mun. Trade partners, don’t you know?

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 21:31 - Aug 13 with 392 viewslonglostjack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 20:54 - Aug 13 by Lohengrin

Oh! I don’t know, Clase. Communists always play well with others, the ghastly, fckin’ things are renowned for it, mun. Trade partners, don’t you know?


The Triads have probably been paid a fortune to act as agent provocateurs.

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 21:35 - Aug 13 with 384 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 21:31 - Aug 13 by longlostjack

The Triads have probably been paid a fortune to act as agent provocateurs.


I don’t doubt it. Poison by proxy.

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Countdown to the end of on 09:27 - Aug 14 with 247 viewswestwalesed

Countdown to the end of on 18:47 - Aug 13 by jacks777

Are you mental 😂


No.

Which part of that suggests I am mental?

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Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 13:04 - Aug 14 with 197 viewsFlashberryjack

Countdown to the end of "democracy" in Hong Kong on 19:21 - Aug 13 by icecoldjack

Correct.

IMO The flames of this are being fanned by the Americans , painting the Chinese into a corner with a win win for the USA . The eyes of the world are watching closely but Those poor people there are going to pay a steep price no matter what the outcome, China will be exposed with either the crushing of Hong Kong or if not the beginning of unrest back home, with US sanctions taking an eventual toll.


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