| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy 17:27 - Nov 6 with 11148 views | johnlangy |
I've heard a rumour that MM and the guy who owns TCW are looking into buying the Club. |  | | |  |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:10 - Nov 7 with 2842 views | Badlands |
If we are serious about growing the club, bringing in better quality players and returning to the PL the 5,000 fans (on average) who have stayed away this season need to turn up. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:28 - Nov 7 with 2815 views | LeonWasGod |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 11:44 - Nov 7 by Catullus |
I won't/can't disagree but under some of these clubs that have significant owner investment go over the top and can't get back inside the rules in time so inviting punishment. Some of them find other ways to try and avoid punishment as with Derby and the alleged inflated purchase price of the stadium.
Owner investment on infrastructure is allowed but owners cannot just throw endless amounts at buying players and paying high wages. That is the road to disaster for most clubs. Bolton nearly copped it and Bury did though obviously they were on a smaller scale. Stoke are sailing close to the wind now.
To me there is just too much money at the top end of football and it's not improving the sport. This capitalist notion about endless growth is silly. There are limits and for some clubs to grow other clubs will die. |
I agree with all of that. Some who don't go over the top also continue to wrack up huge debts (e.g. Ipswich - second largest debt in the Championship at that time bit consistently one of the smallest spenders).
Money needs to be spent sensibly and there are too many examples of where it isn't. But it is still needed. We're doing ok for now, but I wonder what level of owner input would be needed if we didn't have the parachute payments? We may be getting by on player sales this year, but it isn't every year we can sell £25m+ worth of talent.
I'm not defending the concept, just pointing out that owners covering losses is normal and clubs struggle without that. Doesn't make it right, I fully agree on that. |  | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:31 - Nov 7 with 2802 views | NotLoyal |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:10 - Nov 7 by Badlands |
If we are serious about growing the club, bringing in better quality players and returning to the PL the 5,000 fans (on average) who have stayed away this season need to turn up. |
F uck em. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:38 - Nov 7 with 2783 views | jackrmee |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:28 - Nov 7 by LeonWasGod |
I agree with all of that. Some who don't go over the top also continue to wrack up huge debts (e.g. Ipswich - second largest debt in the Championship at that time bit consistently one of the smallest spenders).
Money needs to be spent sensibly and there are too many examples of where it isn't. But it is still needed. We're doing ok for now, but I wonder what level of owner input would be needed if we didn't have the parachute payments? We may be getting by on player sales this year, but it isn't every year we can sell £25m+ worth of talent.
I'm not defending the concept, just pointing out that owners covering losses is normal and clubs struggle without that. Doesn't make it right, I fully agree on that. |
It may be every year (on average) with a good recruitment system, good academy and spending a little cash on young players to bring through it, if there's not enough quality in local talent. Surely we can do that?
Don't think we'd need £25mil plus every year. But I know nothing about the costs of such things in fairness. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:45 - Nov 7 with 2767 views | swanforthemoney |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 11:44 - Nov 7 by Catullus |
I won't/can't disagree but under some of these clubs that have significant owner investment go over the top and can't get back inside the rules in time so inviting punishment. Some of them find other ways to try and avoid punishment as with Derby and the alleged inflated purchase price of the stadium.
Owner investment on infrastructure is allowed but owners cannot just throw endless amounts at buying players and paying high wages. That is the road to disaster for most clubs. Bolton nearly copped it and Bury did though obviously they were on a smaller scale. Stoke are sailing close to the wind now.
To me there is just too much money at the top end of football and it's not improving the sport. This capitalist notion about endless growth is silly. There are limits and for some clubs to grow other clubs will die. |
Interesting to mention Derby.
Over the years they have had a number of owners who have pumped their own money into the club. Robert Maxwell
Peter Gadsby
Lionel Pickering
now Mel Morris.
Its never sustainable and has usually ended in tears along with debts following initial investments. Mel Morris has made substantial investment in the current set up and Derby are currently below Swansea in the table.
We need to run the club sustainably and progressively, hopefully bringing on a good proportion of our own players. For the size of the City the best we can sustain in the long term is Championship football. Even that is punching above the weight of our smallish and economically depressed City and surrounds.
Im happy to turn up to see attractive football, the Swansea way, whatever the division. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:56 - Nov 7 with 2740 views | LeonWasGod |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:45 - Nov 7 by swanforthemoney |
Interesting to mention Derby.
Over the years they have had a number of owners who have pumped their own money into the club. Robert Maxwell
Peter Gadsby
Lionel Pickering
now Mel Morris.
Its never sustainable and has usually ended in tears along with debts following initial investments. Mel Morris has made substantial investment in the current set up and Derby are currently below Swansea in the table.
We need to run the club sustainably and progressively, hopefully bringing on a good proportion of our own players. For the size of the City the best we can sustain in the long term is Championship football. Even that is punching above the weight of our smallish and economically depressed City and surrounds.
Im happy to turn up to see attractive football, the Swansea way, whatever the division. |
Money is important, but without a doubt it's better to spend a little well than a lot badly. We've had more than enough experience of both approaches to know that. | | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 13:00 - Nov 7 with 2732 views | LeonWasGod |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 12:38 - Nov 7 by jackrmee |
It may be every year (on average) with a good recruitment system, good academy and spending a little cash on young players to bring through it, if there's not enough quality in local talent. Surely we can do that?
Don't think we'd need £25mil plus every year. But I know nothing about the costs of such things in fairness. |
I'd like to think so. All we need in theory is a little bit extra where needed to allow us a Sinclair-type signing on top of good freebies/cheap signings and getting the academy stuff right. | | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:20 - Nov 7 with 2660 views | 34dfgdf54 |
The fella who owns TCW is worth £10m.
Nowhere near the funds which is needed to own a football club at this level surely. |  | | |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 16:10 - Nov 7 with 2559 views | LeonWasGod |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:20 - Nov 7 by 34dfgdf54 |
The fella who owns TCW is worth £10m.
Nowhere near the funds which is needed to own a football club at this level surely. |
That's only 2/3rds of a Clucas. | | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 18:57 - Nov 7 with 2464 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 20:59 - Nov 6 by longlostjack |
I thought so. What’s happening? Are the Trust still sorting the insurance out ? The wheels of justice turn very slowly indeed. |
Yes try reading the latest update from the trust sent to all members. | |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 19:42 - Nov 7 with 2395 views | jacabertawe |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:20 - Nov 7 by 34dfgdf54 |
The fella who owns TCW is worth £10m.
Nowhere near the funds which is needed to own a football club at this level surely. |
£10m! I would think that all of that has gone on the monstrosity he has built on Mumbles Road. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 05:49 - Nov 8 with 2253 views | longlostjack |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 18:57 - Nov 7 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes try reading the latest update from the trust sent to all members. |
There were a few long words but I managed to look them up. Thanks. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 06:00 - Nov 8 with 2244 views | sainthelens |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:20 - Nov 7 by 34dfgdf54 |
The fella who owns TCW is worth £10m.
Nowhere near the funds which is needed to own a football club at this level surely. |
For selling 2k cars for 6k.
Wasn't he involved as a consultant in selling Clucas to us ? |  | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:43 - Nov 8 with 2092 views | pencoedjack |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 06:00 - Nov 8 by sainthelens |
For selling 2k cars for 6k.
Wasn't he involved as a consultant in selling Clucas to us ? |
Anyone who can sell Clucas is a bloody good salesman in my opinion. |  | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:57 - Nov 8 with 2042 views | swan65split |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:43 - Nov 8 by pencoedjack |
Anyone who can sell Clucas is a bloody good salesman in my opinion. |
Theres Brass in Muck.   |  | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 18:05 - Nov 8 with 1969 views | UplandsJack |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 14:20 - Nov 7 by 34dfgdf54 |
The fella who owns TCW is worth £10m.
Nowhere near the funds which is needed to own a football club at this level surely. |
Well from what I've been told he's worth a 💩 💩 load more than that.
Overheard a couple of guys talking a few weeks back stating he was interested in the club.
Somewhere between £36-38 mill is the magic number they were saying.
But that said, who knows what the real truth is. One things for sure though, you can bet we'll be the last to know. [Post edited 8 Nov 2019 18:07]
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 21:52 - Nov 8 with 1855 views | TNT |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 18:05 - Nov 8 by UplandsJack |
Well from what I've been told he's worth a 💩 💩 load more than that.
Overheard a couple of guys talking a few weeks back stating he was interested in the club.
Somewhere between £36-38 mill is the magic number they were saying.
But that said, who knows what the real truth is. One things for sure though, you can bet we'll be the last to know. [Post edited 8 Nov 2019 18:07]
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Get Peter's Pies involved and you can have a bit of fun with your sausage roll in the back of a used car. | |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 10:22 - Nov 9 with 1744 views | Best_loser |
Didn't know the TCW guy was a swans fan, is that why his new house is all white |  | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 10:24 - Nov 9 with 1741 views | monmouth |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 16:10 - Nov 7 by LeonWasGod |
That's only 2/3rds of a Clucas. |
Ouch |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:32 - Nov 10 with 1506 views | Slugster664 |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 19:42 - Nov 7 by jacabertawe |
£10m! I would think that all of that has gone on the monstrosity he has built on Mumbles Road. |
£5m to build all in...1/2 a million on windows alone, 3 bedrooms(apartment type)10m sq kitchen...allegedly, he offered his immediate neighbour to the NW £1m cash for his house, presumably for the land...I would have thought the fella was worth more than £10m  |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:33 - Nov 10 with 1496 views | sainthelens |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:32 - Nov 10 by Slugster664 |
£5m to build all in...1/2 a million on windows alone, 3 bedrooms(apartment type)10m sq kitchen...allegedly, he offered his immediate neighbour to the NW £1m cash for his house, presumably for the land...I would have thought the fella was worth more than £10m |
Sounds like yer casing the joint. | | | |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:53 - Nov 10 with 1447 views | Slugster664 |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 15:33 - Nov 10 by sainthelens |
Sounds like yer casing the joint. |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 20:35 - Nov 10 with 1321 views | jack_lord |
Trade centre wales guy is in for some competition. I have heard motorpoint are going to open in Swansea in the new year. |  |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 20:42 - Nov 10 with 1292 views | taffpunk |
I always love the TCW ad on the radio about the Cardiff North sales place. It's in Abercynon, north of Pontypridd! | |
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| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 20:50 - Nov 10 with 1262 views | jack2jack |
| Martin Morgan and Trade Centre Wales guy on 20:35 - Nov 10 by jack_lord |
Trade centre wales guy is in for some competition. I have heard motorpoint are going to open in Swansea in the new year. |
Think it's going to be Carshop, in the old Buyology unit, on Samlet Road.
Just a rumour mindðŸ‘
Apologies JL it is Motorpoint as you pointed out, on the site of the old Buyology place, ex B and Q building👠[Post edited 10 Nov 2019 21:03]
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