| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales 13:05 - Nov 7 with 5875 views | Darran |
Whatever your views on Brexit and we all know why they’re doing it what a load of wánk.
Plaid might as well pack it in.
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 13:24 - Nov 7 with 2484 views | Lohengrin |
The great red hope of the left, standing aside to allow Swinson’s free-marketeers a clear run? Swinson the woman heading the campaign to have a statue of Thatcher erected?
Please God let them knock my door in the coming weeks. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 13:26 - Nov 7 with 2481 views | dickythorpe |
The problem with Price is that he starts of with a massive "one liner" or big opening line and as he gets questioned later on he starts garbling. |  | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 14:53 - Nov 7 with 2415 views | Morfa_Same |
Don't blame Plaid Cymru. The fault lies with those who campaigned to keep our FPTP election system a few years ago. That would be the Tories, who oppose anything that is good for democracy and bad for themselves. |  | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:25 - Nov 7 with 2379 views | CountyJim |
You would be right cheesed off if you where selected then told basically to do one |  | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:33 - Nov 7 with 2372 views | Pegojack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 14:53 - Nov 7 by Morfa_Same |
Don't blame Plaid Cymru. The fault lies with those who campaigned to keep our FPTP election system a few years ago. That would be the Tories, who oppose anything that is good for democracy and bad for themselves. |
I agree. The FPTP system is profoundly undemocratic, so until it is changed, political oarties and voters need to use a modicum of intelligence to defeat it. |  | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:56 - Nov 7 with 2351 views | Catullus |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:33 - Nov 7 by Pegojack |
I agree. The FPTP system is profoundly undemocratic, so until it is changed, political oarties and voters need to use a modicum of intelligence to defeat it. |
Under PR would we have seen UKIP with a decent number of MP's in 2015, they got 4 million votes after all.
Would people have been happy with that?
Tactical voting is fine by me but I do wonder how much success it'll bring Swinson in Wales seeing as we had a leave majority. One good result might be an indicator, or it might not. I'm going with the well trodden path that people/sheeple will still vote Labour. I would love to be proven wrong. Nothing will change as long as we keep voting in the same people but I really cannot vote Plaid or Libdem. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 16:25 - Nov 7 with 2324 views | CountyJim |
It's an interesting one they are asking lib dem voters in Wales to back a nationalist party what do you do if you oppose nationalism spoil your vote | | | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 17:15 - Nov 7 with 2297 views | Gowerjack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:56 - Nov 7 by Catullus |
Under PR would we have seen UKIP with a decent number of MP's in 2015, they got 4 million votes after all.
Would people have been happy with that?
Tactical voting is fine by me but I do wonder how much success it'll bring Swinson in Wales seeing as we had a leave majority. One good result might be an indicator, or it might not. I'm going with the well trodden path that people/sheeple will still vote Labour. I would love to be proven wrong. Nothing will change as long as we keep voting in the same people but I really cannot vote Plaid or Libdem. |
Yes I would.
That's how it works. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 18:39 - Nov 7 with 2240 views | Pegojack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:56 - Nov 7 by Catullus |
Under PR would we have seen UKIP with a decent number of MP's in 2015, they got 4 million votes after all.
Would people have been happy with that?
Tactical voting is fine by me but I do wonder how much success it'll bring Swinson in Wales seeing as we had a leave majority. One good result might be an indicator, or it might not. I'm going with the well trodden path that people/sheeple will still vote Labour. I would love to be proven wrong. Nothing will change as long as we keep voting in the same people but I really cannot vote Plaid or Libdem. |
I wouldn't have been happy about it, but I would have accepted it.
If you look at how the votes were divided up in that election, under a PR system, we would have ended up with roughly a 50/50 split between the left leaning and right leaning parties, and therefore, dare I say it, not another feckin Tory government! | | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 18:47 - Nov 7 with 2224 views | felixstowe_jack |
It comes to something when plaid cymru admit it cannot win in most seats in Wales. Yes it still claims Wales wants independence. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 19:20 - Nov 7 with 2197 views | exiledclaseboy |
More of this sort of thing we need. Well done to those involved. I doubt it’ll make any practical difference in more than a handful of those seats though. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 19:20 - Nov 7 with 2195 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 15:56 - Nov 7 by Catullus |
Under PR would we have seen UKIP with a decent number of MP's in 2015, they got 4 million votes after all.
Would people have been happy with that?
Tactical voting is fine by me but I do wonder how much success it'll bring Swinson in Wales seeing as we had a leave majority. One good result might be an indicator, or it might not. I'm going with the well trodden path that people/sheeple will still vote Labour. I would love to be proven wrong. Nothing will change as long as we keep voting in the same people but I really cannot vote Plaid or Libdem. |
Under PR would we have seen UKIP with a decent number of MP's in 2015, they got 4 million votes after all.
Would people have been happy with that?
Yes. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 20:39 - Nov 7 with 2145 views | Neath_Jack |
 at the outrage on here again.
It's absolutely the sensible thing to do, ah sensible, that'll be the problem on here. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 20:43 - Nov 7 with 2134 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 18:47 - Nov 7 by felixstowe_jack |
It comes to something when plaid cymru admit it cannot win in most seats in Wales. Yes it still claims Wales wants independence. |
Its all about not splitting the Remain vote.
Nothing else.
Once we stop this xenophobic Tory Brexit, then we will see a free Wales and a free Scotland in Europe.
England can make its own mind up of course.
Stopping Brexit is the very best thing we can do for our English friends. |  |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:00 - Nov 7 with 2107 views | sg1912 |
If they are so confident that people 'have changed their minds', why not stand in every seat? | | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:07 - Nov 7 with 2085 views | Darran |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 20:39 - Nov 7 by Neath_Jack |
at the outrage on here again.
It's absolutely the sensible thing to do, ah sensible, that'll be the problem on here. |
I think you’re spectacularly missing the point there J. There’s no doubt it’s the sensible thing to do but if the National Party of Wales are so sure they can’t win seats in Wales in their own right wtf is the point of them? | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:09 - Nov 7 with 2073 views | Neath_Jack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:07 - Nov 7 by Darran |
I think you’re spectacularly missing the point there J. There’s no doubt it’s the sensible thing to do but if the National Party of Wales are so sure they can’t win seats in Wales in their own right wtf is the point of them? |
Ok, all of them should pack in apart from Labour and the Tory nonces, because none of the others will get in.
F*ck sake. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:12 - Nov 7 with 2058 views | Darran |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:09 - Nov 7 by Neath_Jack |
Ok, all of them should pack in apart from Labour and the Tory nonces, because none of the others will get in.
F*ck sake. |
The National Party of Wales are admitting they’re not worth a wánk in Wales. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:14 - Nov 7 with 2053 views | Neath_Jack |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:12 - Nov 7 by Darran |
The National Party of Wales are admitting they’re not worth a wánk in Wales. |
Dar, it's a leave or remain vote.
It's tactical.
Why split the remain vote and let the blue bastards get in? | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:14 - Nov 7 with 2050 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:12 - Nov 7 by Darran |
The National Party of Wales are admitting they’re not worth a wánk in Wales. |
I think you’re missing the point a bit. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:17 - Nov 7 with 2044 views | LeonWasGod |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:07 - Nov 7 by Darran |
I think you’re spectacularly missing the point there J. There’s no doubt it’s the sensible thing to do but if the National Party of Wales are so sure they can’t win seats in Wales in their own right wtf is the point of them? |
Sad innit. People would rather be ruled by English parties. And judging from comments about the assembly on here, they’d also rather be ruled by England itself. I’m amazed more don’t have a bit of pride in their country - learn from the Scotts a bit more. I think it’d do Wales good, but what do I know I’m an outsider. |  | | |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:19 - Nov 7 with 2037 views | sg1912 |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:09 - Nov 7 by Neath_Jack |
Ok, all of them should pack in apart from Labour and the Tory nonces, because none of the others will get in.
F*ck sake. |
... or perhaps they could provide a credible arguement to counter Labour and the Tories?
It all boils down to Remainers/Leftists thinking the general public are too thick to vote, which ironically is the reason they lost the referendum and the reason they have to pull stunts like this to avoid being wiped out in the GE.
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:21 - Nov 7 with 2024 views | Darran |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:17 - Nov 7 by LeonWasGod |
Sad innit. People would rather be ruled by English parties. And judging from comments about the assembly on here, they’d also rather be ruled by England itself. I’m amazed more don’t have a bit of pride in their country - learn from the Scotts a bit more. I think it’d do Wales good, but what do I know I’m an outsider. |
It’s unbelievable. The National Party of Wales are not contesting a seat in the capital city of Wales. | |
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| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:22 - Nov 7 with 2016 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The National Party of Wales not contesting seats in Wales on 21:21 - Nov 7 by Darran |
It’s unbelievable. The National Party of Wales are not contesting a seat in the capital city of Wales. |
And they’ll still have the same number of MPs after the election than they did before it. | |
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