| Do we need a new captain? 20:43 - Nov 29 with 1474 views | dickythorpe |
Doesn't seem to be any leadership from our current one! |  | | |  |
| Do we need a new captain? on 20:45 - Nov 29 with 1464 views | centrestandswan |
Have we got one ? |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 20:46 - Nov 29 with 1463 views | Yossarian |
Have to agree with this. He’s been marginally better than Peterson first helf- both do a good impersonation of a couple of 60 year olds playing walking football |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 21:15 - Nov 29 with 1416 views | MrSwerve |
There is only one stand out leader in our squad and that is Andre Ayew. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 01:00 - Nov 30 with 1289 views | builthjack |
Long John Silver is no Captain. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 01:15 - Nov 30 with 1275 views | longlostjack |
Definitely. There is no way he’s a captain. Feel sorry for him. Good player who’s being ruined by the role. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 08:44 - Nov 30 with 1213 views | nantywatcher |
| Do we need a new captain? on 01:15 - Nov 30 by longlostjack |
Definitely. There is no way he’s a captain. Feel sorry for him. Good player who’s being ruined by the role. |
Excellent leader who leads by example, covered every blade of grass last night, never stoped running and looking for the ball. Very happy with him in this role. |  | | |
| Do we need a new captain? on 09:13 - Nov 30 with 1187 views | Badlands |
To the OP
YES
Making Grimes captain was a daft decision. He'd one stand out season but had and does not show any leadership qualities. I can't image what Cooper saw in him to take the decision.
All season 've been saying he's played poorly and possibly because he has the responsibility of captain on his shoulders. He is not a natural leader and I not growing into being one.
Don't take the arm band out of spite or frustration but for th good of the player and the team.
Again, last night it was Horn and Ayew noticeably calling the shots with Naughton supporting. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 09:15 - Nov 30 with 1182 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Do we need a new captain? on 09:13 - Nov 30 by Badlands |
To the OP
YES
Making Grimes captain was a daft decision. He'd one stand out season but had and does not show any leadership qualities. I can't image what Cooper saw in him to take the decision.
All season 've been saying he's played poorly and possibly because he has the responsibility of captain on his shoulders. He is not a natural leader and I not growing into being one.
Don't take the arm band out of spite or frustration but for th good of the player and the team.
Again, last night it was Horn and Ayew noticeably calling the shots with Naughton supporting. |
Perhaps he’s a mr nice guy that Cooper can easily get on with. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:20 - Nov 30 with 1115 views | dameedna |
No that would be a mistake. Played well last season and showing good stats this season. Leads by example in a decent group that is having a results downturn. Manager has put Ayew up but there is a good chance Andre will leave in January. |  | | |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:30 - Nov 30 with 1102 views | sherpajacob |
Mikey vdh, is it so obvious that Cooper cant see it.
Otherwise I reckon Freddie the woodman would do a good job, even though he's only on loan. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:33 - Nov 30 with 1098 views | jack247 |
| Do we need a new captain? on 09:13 - Nov 30 by Badlands |
To the OP
YES
Making Grimes captain was a daft decision. He'd one stand out season but had and does not show any leadership qualities. I can't image what Cooper saw in him to take the decision.
All season 've been saying he's played poorly and possibly because he has the responsibility of captain on his shoulders. He is not a natural leader and I not growing into being one.
Don't take the arm band out of spite or frustration but for th good of the player and the team.
Again, last night it was Horn and Ayew noticeably calling the shots with Naughton supporting. |
I can’t see any other reasons than with VdH expected to leave and Ayew not expected to come back, he was the only more or less guaranteed starter, other than Rodon who is obviously younger and less experienced.
With hindsight, it hasn’t been a good decision at all.
Assuming they played every week, both of the above plus Naughton and possibly even Roberts would be a better fit IMO.
Didn’t think he had a bad game last night mind, speaking on the balance of the season so far. | | | |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:35 - Nov 30 with 1089 views | jojaca |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:33 - Nov 30 by jack247 |
I can’t see any other reasons than with VdH expected to leave and Ayew not expected to come back, he was the only more or less guaranteed starter, other than Rodon who is obviously younger and less experienced.
With hindsight, it hasn’t been a good decision at all.
Assuming they played every week, both of the above plus Naughton and possibly even Roberts would be a better fit IMO.
Didn’t think he had a bad game last night mind, speaking on the balance of the season so far. |
If Ayew stays for the rest of season, surely he would be best candidate. He's one of the few that will thrive from captaincy. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:36 - Nov 30 with 1088 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Captaincy is hugely overrated in the modern game. Would we have more points with a different captain? I very much doubt it. It's a distraction from the real issue which is our midfield weakness. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:38 - Nov 30 with 1083 views | TimTtam |
The problem Cooper had when choosing his captain was that there weren't many options. Mike is leaving at the end of the season, so that would be a temporary appointment. Ayew wasn't at the club at the time. Routs will be playing his final season, meaning a temporary appointment. Cooper was impressed with Grimes @ Exeter in the preseason, and probably thought picking him would be a good long-term choice.
The same dilemma is still here. Changing the captaincy will mean if we don't get promoted, we'll have to sort out a new captain again. As much as I think Grimes is struggling with the captaincy, I think we need to persist in the hope that he can become better and be a long-term player and captain. |  |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:44 - Nov 30 with 1075 views | Badlands |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:38 - Nov 30 by TimTtam |
The problem Cooper had when choosing his captain was that there weren't many options. Mike is leaving at the end of the season, so that would be a temporary appointment. Ayew wasn't at the club at the time. Routs will be playing his final season, meaning a temporary appointment. Cooper was impressed with Grimes @ Exeter in the preseason, and probably thought picking him would be a good long-term choice.
The same dilemma is still here. Changing the captaincy will mean if we don't get promoted, we'll have to sort out a new captain again. As much as I think Grimes is struggling with the captaincy, I think we need to persist in the hope that he can become better and be a long-term player and captain. |
But, if he acted as a manager should and accept he made a mistake and captaincy is sopping Grimes playing well he has to change it.
It can't matter if a player might not be here next season - a captain could pick up a long term injury, Grimes might leave.
No one should be looking to who will be captain next season. That isn't forward planning that's neglecting the now.
Hoping Grimes who, let's be clear here, had one good season as an utility player, when there are two strong alternatives is IMHO barking mad. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 14:56 - Nov 30 with 1056 views | TimTtam |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:44 - Nov 30 by Badlands |
But, if he acted as a manager should and accept he made a mistake and captaincy is sopping Grimes playing well he has to change it.
It can't matter if a player might not be here next season - a captain could pick up a long term injury, Grimes might leave.
No one should be looking to who will be captain next season. That isn't forward planning that's neglecting the now.
Hoping Grimes who, let's be clear here, had one good season as an utility player, when there are two strong alternatives is IMHO barking mad. |
Some decent points. Maybe Ayew as captain and Grimes as VC would be the way to go. I still believe having one eye on the long-term aspect of the captaincy is the way to go. And lets face it, Grimes is going nowhere after the season he's had. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 20:27 - Nov 30 with 982 views | Catullus |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:56 - Nov 30 by TimTtam |
Some decent points. Maybe Ayew as captain and Grimes as VC would be the way to go. I still believe having one eye on the long-term aspect of the captaincy is the way to go. And lets face it, Grimes is going nowhere after the season he's had. |
Thinking long term, do we want a player to be captain if it's spoiling his game and affecting the team in a negative way?
Captains are expected to step up when others aren't performing, to be strong and lead by example. If Grimes is struggling under the weight of that then a change is better for the team AND better for Grimes. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 02:59 - Dec 1 with 931 views | TimTtam |
| Do we need a new captain? on 20:27 - Nov 30 by Catullus |
Thinking long term, do we want a player to be captain if it's spoiling his game and affecting the team in a negative way?
Captains are expected to step up when others aren't performing, to be strong and lead by example. If Grimes is struggling under the weight of that then a change is better for the team AND better for Grimes. |
That's where the rest of the season (if he stays in the job for that long) will be a litmus test. If he can't cut it then he can't. But he should have a bit more time. In January if things haven't improved in terms of the leadership and/or Grimes' game, the change can be made.
I'm being hopeful that he can cut it in the long-term. Maybe he can't. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 10:37 - Dec 1 with 854 views | Jinxy |
| Do we need a new captain? on 14:33 - Nov 30 by jack247 |
I can’t see any other reasons than with VdH expected to leave and Ayew not expected to come back, he was the only more or less guaranteed starter, other than Rodon who is obviously younger and less experienced.
With hindsight, it hasn’t been a good decision at all.
Assuming they played every week, both of the above plus Naughton and possibly even Roberts would be a better fit IMO.
Didn’t think he had a bad game last night mind, speaking on the balance of the season so far. |
We were chatting about this at the game too. If Roberts was more consistent and had pushed on, he'd be a candidate - a vocal local who could lead by example. He hasn't (as yet) so until he's first name on the teamsheet, which is probably a prerequisite for captaincy, he's out of the running. Shame.
Ideally, we would buy a gritty midfielder, leader and captain all rolled into one from transfer (inevitable?) sales, but I doubt that'll happen too. |  | | |
| Do we need a new captain? on 12:25 - Dec 1 with 796 views | Badlands |
| Do we need a new captain? on 10:37 - Dec 1 by Jinxy |
We were chatting about this at the game too. If Roberts was more consistent and had pushed on, he'd be a candidate - a vocal local who could lead by example. He hasn't (as yet) so until he's first name on the teamsheet, which is probably a prerequisite for captaincy, he's out of the running. Shame.
Ideally, we would buy a gritty midfielder, leader and captain all rolled into one from transfer (inevitable?) sales, but I doubt that'll happen too. |
Robert just gets ratty ... awful trait for a captain.
Reading back it seems some are happy with Grimes because he might be captain material next season ... trust me, he won't. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 12:32 - Dec 1 with 786 views | MrSwerve |
| Do we need a new captain? on 12:25 - Dec 1 by Badlands |
Robert just gets ratty ... awful trait for a captain.
Reading back it seems some are happy with Grimes because he might be captain material next season ... trust me, he won't. |
Indeed, the only thing Roberts comes out with on the pitch is “fûck off ref” most of the time. | |
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| Do we need a new captain? on 12:25 - Dec 2 with 659 views | Jinxy |
| Do we need a new captain? on 12:32 - Dec 1 by MrSwerve |
Indeed, the only thing Roberts comes out with on the pitch is “fûck off ref” most of the time. |
He's young though, and still has much to learn in all aspects. Never say never I say, hopefully he will develop. I think Roy Keane had similar traits?! | | | |
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