| This is an interesting question. 10:18 - Dec 14 with 2086 views | ladyjack |
I remember Foot and how he was treated by the press and now of course how Corbyn was treated, so is it possible for a left wing Labour party to ever again get elected in this country ? as they are not going to be treated fairly by the press and many of those that control online content, to even have a fair crack. |  | | |  |
| This is an interesting question. on 10:22 - Dec 14 with 1660 views | ladyjack |
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| This is an interesting question. on 10:23 - Dec 14 with 1657 views | Best_loser |
Nobody buys newspapers anymore, it's all online now
Was Cornyn demonized unfairly by the tory media , yes
If he would have had fair and balanced coverage would the result have been the same, yes |  | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 12:01 - Dec 14 with 1607 views | majorraglan |
| This is an interesting question. on 10:23 - Dec 14 by Best_loser |
Nobody buys newspapers anymore, it's all online now
Was Cornyn demonized unfairly by the tory media , yes
If he would have had fair and balanced coverage would the result have been the same, yes |
Newspaper circulations are falling, but a lot of people still buy them including the older generation. A lot of the newspapers also have an online presence and people will get their news from those sources, so they still have a very powerful part to play.
Corbyn was demonised by the Tory media, there is one issue being investigated by the regulator where one of the Conservative daily papers appears to have completely fabricated a story. If he had had a fair and balanced coverage, the result would have been the same, but not to the extent it was.
Personally, I think the papers need to be more accountable, a lot of decent people ( and I donât mean politicians) have been the victim of unfair press intrusion and lies and papers need to be made to pay for their deliberate misconduct. |  | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 12:20 - Dec 14 with 1579 views | jack247 |
I very rarely read newspapers, the demand for them must be declining rapidly. I did read bits of the mail last Sunday and found itâs unapologetic Tory bias astounding. Boris Johnson had his own article/advertisement with unflattering images of Corbyn and Sturgeon prominently displayed.
I found social media the complete opposite to be honest. I get itâs possibly because I live in Swansea and most of the people I follow do too, Facebook feeds in Surrey probably look completely different, but almost all Iâve had for weeks (the Diane Abbott shoe thing that looked photoshopped aside) is people lauding Corbyn and demonising Johnson. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 12:31 - Dec 14 with 1563 views | felixstowe_jack |
Yes it is if they have moderate left wing policies. After all Blair won 13 years in power.
Plenty of left wing newspapers about the mirror, the guardian and both the BBC and Channel showed left wing bias throughout the election campaign. | |
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| This is an interesting question. on 12:33 - Dec 14 with 1557 views | Highjack |
I think Trampie is broken again. Someone stick 50p in him. |  |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:46 - Dec 14 with 1519 views | ladyjack |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:54 - Dec 14 with 1502 views | Best_loser |
| This is an interesting question. on 13:46 - Dec 14 by ladyjack |
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Not everybody who voted SNP want independence
Lying Boris might give a lot more money to Scotland to calm them down
He won't give any to wales
He is happy with the tory voting Welsh suckers who do it for nothing | | | |
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| This is an interesting question. on 14:23 - Dec 14 with 1476 views | ladyjack |
Hot off the press, people starting to speculate that Welsh Labour will or at least should look towards supporting Welsh independence. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 16:11 - Dec 14 with 1428 views | majorraglan |
| This is an interesting question. on 12:31 - Dec 14 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes it is if they have moderate left wing policies. After all Blair won 13 years in power.
Plenty of left wing newspapers about the mirror, the guardian and both the BBC and Channel showed left wing bias throughout the election campaign. |
You must have an extremely right wing take on things. The BBC left wing.....if anything Kuenssberg has been Boris personal journalist and the BBC have been very favourable towards him, Channel 4 have been much more challenging of all parties.
Two newspapers the Mirror and Guardian is not plenty, compare that with the Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph and Times. I discount the Morning Star because itâs circulation is tiny. Corbyn te al cooked their own goose. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 16:47 - Dec 14 with 1407 views | Lord_Bony |
The only way the Labour party is going to get elected is by becoming a centrist party or better still align themselves very closely to Conservative ideals Thats how New Labour under Blair got in in 97. Anything left of this they will be decimated by the media and rejected by Joe Public. |  |
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| This is an interesting question. on 17:19 - Dec 14 with 1357 views | swan65split |
I dont read the papers anymore, and what I seen online IMO all leaders had a hammering one way or another.
IMO Corbyn was/is his own worst enemy, and now looking back at all the Lab mps leaving or deflecting. theres no smoke without fire. |  | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 17:22 - Dec 14 with 1351 views | PozuelosSideys |
So what happens if Labour decide to elect a moderate, centre left leader and make huge gains back with a more rounded, sensible approach to economic polices compared to the Marxists whilst still holding on to a softer social side than the Tories?
What will your excuses be then? That sort of Labour party would have walked this election. Dont kid yourself this was all about Brexit. Johnson was the least worst option compared to the batsh1t, unelectable nonsense coming from Momentum. Most people dont want extreme politics. Stop letting the far left and far right be the voices heard. |  |
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| This is an interesting question. on 17:23 - Dec 14 with 1348 views | LeonWasGod |
Why are people talking about newspapers? The question was about the whole media. News Corp UK makes about ÂŁ1bn per year. The Mail online has about 200 million unique visits per month. The media is HUGE and nobody will win an election without it. Blair/Campbell knee this which is why they cosied up to Murdoch and gave him what he wanted.
A left wing party could easily win an election, as long as they danced to the media mogulsâ various tunes. Try taking them on though and theyâve no chance. |  | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 17:26 - Dec 14 with 1337 views | ladyjack |
What is the point of Labour becoming like the Tories, Socialists in Wales that are in the Labour party should look at pushing Welsh Labour into supporting Welsh independence. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 22:05 - Dec 14 with 1247 views | Catullus |
| This is an interesting question. on 17:22 - Dec 14 by PozuelosSideys |
So what happens if Labour decide to elect a moderate, centre left leader and make huge gains back with a more rounded, sensible approach to economic polices compared to the Marxists whilst still holding on to a softer social side than the Tories?
What will your excuses be then? That sort of Labour party would have walked this election. Dont kid yourself this was all about Brexit. Johnson was the least worst option compared to the batsh1t, unelectable nonsense coming from Momentum. Most people dont want extreme politics. Stop letting the far left and far right be the voices heard. |
Yep, this.
Blair knew he had to appear a certain way regardless of his real self. Corbyn gave the media plenty of ammo and it was used generously.
When you paint a target on the rich and powerful you can expect a bigger target to be painted on you. It never helped Corbyn that he is so easily described as a supporter of terrorists and dictators. | |
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| This is an interesting question. on 22:11 - Dec 14 with 1238 views | Thrasher6 |
The media..online and paper...are all Tory...bar a select few. Australia had the right idea when they banned any one person/entity owning more than one newspaper.. They sorted it. But what do we do..nothing? Murdoch was Australian btw... |  |
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| This is an interesting question. on 11:40 - Dec 15 with 1126 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| This is an interesting question. on 17:26 - Dec 14 by ladyjack |
What is the point of Labour becoming like the Tories, Socialists in Wales that are in the Labour party should look at pushing Welsh Labour into supporting Welsh independence. |
Because once they are in they do whatever they want, you should know that by now. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 11:59 - Dec 15 with 1103 views | ladyjack |
| This is an interesting question. on 22:05 - Dec 14 by Catullus |
Yep, this.
Blair knew he had to appear a certain way regardless of his real self. Corbyn gave the media plenty of ammo and it was used generously.
When you paint a target on the rich and powerful you can expect a bigger target to be painted on you. It never helped Corbyn that he is so easily described as a supporter of terrorists and dictators. |
Yes its a pity that they are labelled as terrorist sympathisers when they are on the right side of history but what can you do about that ?, only vote for people that regard and treat other people as second class citizens and deny them their rights. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 12:11 - Dec 15 with 1097 views | Lohengrin |
| This is an interesting question. on 11:59 - Dec 15 by ladyjack |
Yes its a pity that they are labelled as terrorist sympathisers when they are on the right side of history but what can you do about that ?, only vote for people that regard and treat other people as second class citizens and deny them their rights. |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:06 - Dec 15 with 1065 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| This is an interesting question. on 22:11 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6 |
The media..online and paper...are all Tory...bar a select few. Australia had the right idea when they banned any one person/entity owning more than one newspaper.. They sorted it. But what do we do..nothing? Murdoch was Australian btw... |
You have to be joking, you obviously don't read Australian Newspapers or watch ABC news etc. | | | |
| This is an interesting question. on 13:16 - Dec 15 with 1048 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| This is an interesting question. on 22:11 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6 |
The media..online and paper...are all Tory...bar a select few. Australia had the right idea when they banned any one person/entity owning more than one newspaper.. They sorted it. But what do we do..nothing? Murdoch was Australian btw... |
I suppose Murdoch is still Australian... |  |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:25 - Dec 15 with 1024 views | Lohengrin |
| This is an interesting question. on 13:16 - Dec 15 by Joe_bradshaw |
I suppose Murdoch is still Australian... |
Didnât he become a US citizen in the â80s, I think thatâs right?
He still an Aussie though no matter what documents he travels on nowadays. | |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:26 - Dec 15 with 1021 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| This is an interesting question. on 13:25 - Dec 15 by Lohengrin |
Didnât he become a US citizen in the â80s, I think thatâs right?
He still an Aussie though no matter what documents he travels on nowadays. |
Youâre right and that was my point. | |
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| This is an interesting question. on 13:26 - Dec 15 with 1021 views | union_jack |
| This is an interesting question. on 16:47 - Dec 14 by Lord_Bony |
The only way the Labour party is going to get elected is by becoming a centrist party or better still align themselves very closely to Conservative ideals Thats how New Labour under Blair got in in 97. Anything left of this they will be decimated by the media and rejected by Joe Public. |
This and also, very importantly, elect a media savvy and friendly leader. Corbyn was arrogant, unfriendly and darn right rude to the press before the GE. A leader needs to court them not alienate them.
I donât know who in the party has the credentials. I really donât believe itâs Jess Phillips or Lisa Nandy. Stella Creasy? Maybe Kier Starmer who looks the part but does he have what is really needed to battle Boris. Itâs not a good time for them just right now. |  |
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