| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 432708 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:06 - May 19 with 2187 views | BytholWyn |
I suspect a cunning plan by Pelosi to get Trump to increase his dosage. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:15 - May 19 with 2170 views | Neath_Jack |
| Corona Virus on 18:23 - May 19 by Neath_Jack |
Spoke to someone I know who knows this subject inside out
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His post reminds me of a type of post that Jackbastardo would have posted. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:18 - May 19 with 2164 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Corona Virus on 19:15 - May 19 by Neath_Jack |
His post reminds me of a type of post that Jackbastardo would have posted. |
Not enough pictures/YouTube videos or general Kerouacness. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:24 - May 19 with 2157 views | Neath_Jack |
| Corona Virus on 19:18 - May 19 by exiledclaseboy |
Not enough pictures/YouTube videos or general Kerouacness. |
Fair point. | |
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| Corona Virus on 19:36 - May 19 with 2146 views | sP7qupUf |
| Corona Virus on 17:48 - May 19 by Fergal |
Angela McLean today  |
Appalling.
Did you also notice that Eustance totally ignored the direct question asked by one journalist with regard to who was making the calls and decisions, the scientists or ministers? I suppose the answer is there really by his decision not to answer. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:37 - May 19 with 2143 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Corona Virus on 19:36 - May 19 by sP7qupUf |
Appalling.
Did you also notice that Eustance totally ignored the direct question asked by one journalist with regard to who was making the calls and decisions, the scientists or ministers? I suppose the answer is there really by his decision not to answer. |
I can answer that, it’s easy. Advisors, including scientific ones, advise. Ministers decide. | |
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| Corona Virus on 20:56 - May 19 with 2097 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 17:48 - May 19 by Fergal |
Angela McLean today |
I know Angela. She is very nice but a bit scatty | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:58 - May 19 with 2094 views | Neath_Jack |
| Corona Virus on 20:56 - May 19 by Professor |
I know Angela. She is very nice but a bit scatty |
Scatty would describe her "performance" today. | |
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| Corona Virus on 21:01 - May 19 with 2085 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 20:58 - May 19 by Neath_Jack |
Scatty would describe her "performance" today. |
Not seen/heard, but previous appearances have been underwhelming | | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:25 - May 19 with 2022 views | swan65split |
| Corona Virus on 20:58 - May 19 by Neath_Jack |
Scatty would describe her "performance" today. |
I would say "LOST" absolute joke of a performance by those 2 , stand by for distraction tactics to palm away the pressure on Govt. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:30 - May 19 with 2016 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 20:06 - May 18 by Professor |
Lifted straight from the Forbes report. I have previously discussed the shortcomings, but this was also a single dose. The Oxford group may be preparing a different version of the vaccine to do what is called an heterologous prime boost. Giving a variant of the vaccine as a boost seems to work better than the same version twice. Reasons not known |
Oxford have now issued a response to Haseltine.
It’s pretty scathing.
https://www.jenner.ac.uk/about/news/the-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-works-very-well- | | | |
| Corona Virus on 00:01 - May 20 with 1993 views | Professor |
Would disagree with some of that, but it won’t as said be a single dose vaccine. There is certainly merit for carrying on with further research. They are a good group of scientists. I have only met Sarah Gilbert once, but have chatted with Adrian Hill a few times and did a PhD viva (on Salmonella vaccines) with Andy Pollard a couple of years ago. Despite my reservations, which come from some of our experiences in poultry vaccines, they are still a decent bet to produce at least an interim vaccine. I hope they do | | | |
| Corona Virus on 09:18 - May 20 with 1905 views | monmouth |
| Corona Virus on 19:37 - May 19 by exiledclaseboy |
I can answer that, it’s easy. Advisors, including scientific ones, advise. Ministers decide. |
All fine in theory, but who takes the blame?
If a qualified professional gives you expert advice and you follow it (ie decide) because you have no knowledge yourself, then surely you have recourse, and clearly the advice is to 'blame' for your decision.
If there are a number of equally strong options and you choose one then maybe less so, but you would still likely try and blame and gain satisfaction from the one that gave you the advice.
The big lie in the latter instance is claiming that they are 'following the science', and they should not be let off the hook for explaining why they took those choices. Anyone can make a wrong call, and that's part of life. It's the reasonableness of the justification that surely must be the issue, and if that is just 'we preferred x's view because it suited our political purposes' then they should rightly be slaughtered.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out in practice. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 09:44 - May 20 with 1894 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Corona Virus on 09:18 - May 20 by monmouth |
All fine in theory, but who takes the blame?
If a qualified professional gives you expert advice and you follow it (ie decide) because you have no knowledge yourself, then surely you have recourse, and clearly the advice is to 'blame' for your decision.
If there are a number of equally strong options and you choose one then maybe less so, but you would still likely try and blame and gain satisfaction from the one that gave you the advice.
The big lie in the latter instance is claiming that they are 'following the science', and they should not be let off the hook for explaining why they took those choices. Anyone can make a wrong call, and that's part of life. It's the reasonableness of the justification that surely must be the issue, and if that is just 'we preferred x's view because it suited our political purposes' then they should rightly be slaughtered.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out in practice. |
Indeed. Ministers decide but rarely take the blame for the consequences of those decisions, that’s when the advisors become handy and convenient. There are a number of examples over the last decade of ministers being quick to hide behind and blame advisors and officials when things go tits up. I’ve absolutely no doubt that this will be the next example of that when the dirty laundry starts to be aired. | |
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| Corona Virus on 10:20 - May 20 with 1864 views | WarwickHunt |
| Corona Virus on 18:23 - May 19 by Neath_Jack |
Spoke to someone I know who knows this subject inside out
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AFD, obviously. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 10:40 - May 20 with 1846 views | waynekerr55 |
Did I hear correctly that the government believe a vaccine by September is possible??? |  |
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| Corona Virus on 21:27 - May 21 with 1666 views | waynekerr55 |
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| Corona Virus (n/t) (n/t) on 00:50 - May 22 with 1579 views | Jack123 |
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| Corona Virus on 09:40 - May 22 with 1483 views | leighton1318 |
I wonder if any of those were the contracts given, without a tender, to Cummings’ mates? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 16:54 - May 22 with 1376 views | majorraglan |
When was the last time Boris delivered a briefing? Anyone get the impression he may be trying to distancing himself from the “bad news” ? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:49 - May 22 with 1341 views | swan65split |
| Corona Virus on 16:54 - May 22 by majorraglan |
When was the last time Boris delivered a briefing? Anyone get the impression he may be trying to distancing himself from the “bad news” ? |
Teamwork.......team cover for a poor player. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:56 - May 22 with 1335 views | Nortbankboy |
| Corona Virus on 17:49 - May 22 by swan65split |
Teamwork.......team cover for a poor player. |
Boris in hiding again | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:38 - May 22 with 1291 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 17:56 - May 22 by Nortbankboy |
Boris in hiding again |
He was clapping outside Number 10 like a demented seal last night. He's probably exhausted. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:42 - May 22 with 1285 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Corona Virus on 16:54 - May 22 by majorraglan |
When was the last time Boris delivered a briefing? Anyone get the impression he may be trying to distancing himself from the “bad news” ? |
Yes he is a shite-house. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 18:53 - May 22 with 1277 views | Swanjaxs |
Another sign that things are settling down is that this particular page on this thread stretches over three days!
I'm not even joking.
Long may this continue 🙠|  |
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