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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? 07:43 - Mar 20 with 2487 viewsladyjack

Some speculation out there that this virus could mean the end of the capitalist system, will the pandemic help usher in universal basic income and a more socialist society or will things go even more extreme with only the wealthy been able to afford goods and services or will things just return to how they were before Coronavirus hit ?
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 08:02 - Mar 20 with 1445 viewsBest_loser

Us government bailing out business

Sending 2000 dollar cheques to all citizens

Printing trillions of new money

The republicans can be very socialist when it suits them

Hypocrites, if it was Obama they would be castigating him as a commie scum
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 08:47 - Mar 20 with 1393 viewsLeonWasGod

~$400 for a dose of the vaccine. So no, I doubt it. It'll be an opportunity for some with the money already.
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 08:55 - Mar 20 with 1377 viewsBrynmill_Jack

I don’t think it’s the end for capitalism and consumerism but it’s a feckin big Reset button. Hopefully peoples future habits will curtail the vast and horrific extent of global excess and exploitation- both of natural resources and human beings

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:00 - Mar 20 with 1368 viewsmonmouth

"business support" will shovel billions of public money into the hands of the likes of Branson and making the rich richer while the small business that need it will get a pittance.

As someone said yesterday it will be the usual refuge of every failure or scandal 'we've learned lessons', meaning none, and back to business as usual.

So no, Trampie. As much as I'd like to see a different model evolve, that would essentially need a revolution driven by the have-nots and super rich hanging from lamposts, and we don't do that here, we doff our caps and read the daily mail.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:01 - Mar 20 with 1361 viewsPegojack

It won't be the end of capitalism, but hopefully it'll be the beginning of the end for Trump and mini Trump, as everyone but the thickest realise what utter tools they are.
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:02 - Mar 20 with 1355 viewsNotLoyal

When supplies run low and a more concise reaction from the people regards measures govts take occur, and I’m certain they will, nobody will give a fck about socialism or any other ism.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:31 - Mar 20 with 1313 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Absolutely not.
You need Capitalism to create the wealth for these kinds of emergency.
How do you think Venezuela are going to cope with COVID19?
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:34 - Mar 20 with 1305 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:31 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Absolutely not.
You need Capitalism to create the wealth for these kinds of emergency.
How do you think Venezuela are going to cope with COVID19?


A lot better than we will???

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 10:16 - Mar 20 with 1267 viewshobo

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:31 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Absolutely not.
You need Capitalism to create the wealth for these kinds of emergency.
How do you think Venezuela are going to cope with COVID19?


Probably not very well. But that would be more to do with sanctions imposed on them by the US

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 11:31 - Mar 20 with 1207 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Not over here.

If anything, this crisis has vindicated capitalism.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-vindicates-capitalism-11584659306

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 11:46 - Mar 20 with 1187 viewscontroversial_jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:31 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Absolutely not.
You need Capitalism to create the wealth for these kinds of emergency.
How do you think Venezuela are going to cope with COVID19?


Cuba is coping better than us
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:16 - Mar 20 with 1160 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 11:46 - Mar 20 by controversial_jack

Cuba is coping better than us


They did not get their first cases until March 11th, so they cannot be compared to Europe or the USA.
But they had the dengue plague which prepared them for pandemics.
They have a plan in place and drugs that they use based on previous experiences.
They also have a very good Health system combined with Bio-chemical research.

However Venezuela were turned from the jewel of South America into a poor country way before the introduction of sanctions, the sanctions were the reaction to what was happening there.
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:19 - Mar 20 with 1158 viewscontroversial_jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:16 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

They did not get their first cases until March 11th, so they cannot be compared to Europe or the USA.
But they had the dengue plague which prepared them for pandemics.
They have a plan in place and drugs that they use based on previous experiences.
They also have a very good Health system combined with Bio-chemical research.

However Venezuela were turned from the jewel of South America into a poor country way before the introduction of sanctions, the sanctions were the reaction to what was happening there.


Venezuela was ruined by external influences
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:25 - Mar 20 with 1151 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:19 - Mar 20 by controversial_jack

Venezuela was ruined by external influences


Bull, they were ruined by a very poor and corrupt government when the world economy was under pressure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:43 - Mar 20 with 1133 viewsDr_Winston

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:34 - Mar 20 by Brynmill_Jack

A lot better than we will???


They were running out of bog roll in Caracas well before they were in Clase.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:01 - Mar 20 with 1107 viewsPegojack

Talking of running out of bogroll, my mother, who is 86 and virtually housebound in Baglan, was telling me the supermarkets were 'empty' in Port Talbot. She says my brother, who provides for her, has been driving around Neath and Swansea for hours trying to find things.
What's the true picture, guys? Is there plenty of food about?
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:07 - Mar 20 with 1096 viewslifelong

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:01 - Mar 20 by Pegojack

Talking of running out of bogroll, my mother, who is 86 and virtually housebound in Baglan, was telling me the supermarkets were 'empty' in Port Talbot. She says my brother, who provides for her, has been driving around Neath and Swansea for hours trying to find things.
What's the true picture, guys? Is there plenty of food about?


Plenty of food in Aldi’s, Gorseinon this morning, no bogroll mind.
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:34 - Mar 20 with 1058 viewscontroversial_jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 12:25 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Bull, they were ruined by a very poor and corrupt government when the world economy was under pressure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela
[Post edited 20 Mar 12:28]


Read this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/20/venezuela-revolt-truth-not
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:36 - Mar 20 with 1052 viewsDr_Winston

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:01 - Mar 20 by Pegojack

Talking of running out of bogroll, my mother, who is 86 and virtually housebound in Baglan, was telling me the supermarkets were 'empty' in Port Talbot. She says my brother, who provides for her, has been driving around Neath and Swansea for hours trying to find things.
What's the true picture, guys? Is there plenty of food about?


Plenty of fresh produce in most places by the sounds of it. My local Premier store had bogroll and they weren't gouging the prices.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:43 - Mar 20 with 1047 viewsCatullus

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 09:31 - Mar 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Absolutely not.
You need Capitalism to create the wealth for these kinds of emergency.
How do you think Venezuela are going to cope with COVID19?


Capitalism didn't create the wealth, it created money so that wealth could more easily be taken by the powerful. Now money is power.

The wealth we need in this situation already existed in the raw resources we need to overcome this situation, it has always existed. All money did was give the powerful the means to legally hoard those resources.

There are mega rich people who could be doing a lot to help but in reality they have probably pulled up the drawbridges and settled in for the long haul, waiting to see how it all turns out. When the crisis (or if) is over the mega rich will look to see how they can gain from it. Actually, I bet most of them have already started profitting from this.

There are other rich people who are doing their bit without worrying about the finances, like Neville and Giggs.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:50 - Mar 20 with 1030 viewsunion_jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:01 - Mar 20 by Pegojack

Talking of running out of bogroll, my mother, who is 86 and virtually housebound in Baglan, was telling me the supermarkets were 'empty' in Port Talbot. She says my brother, who provides for her, has been driving around Neath and Swansea for hours trying to find things.
What's the true picture, guys? Is there plenty of food about?


Received an outer of 80 rolls today (£40). Supposed to be super soft but we’ll see. Seems a good price though.

Also panic bought a load of curry from the Rose last night. All portioned out and in the freezer.

Plenty of Italian coffee and reduced sugar CDM in the house.

I’m fine!!!😉

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:51 - Mar 20 with 1026 viewsCatullus

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 11:31 - Mar 20 by Tummer_from_Texas

Not over here.

If anything, this crisis has vindicated capitalism.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-vindicates-capitalism-11584659306


No, capitalism hasn't also helped create and increase poverty, it hasn't taken healthcare away from millions of Americans, made many homeless or ruined environments.

This doesn't vindicate capitalism and those drug companies, how much profit have they made on the backs of the misery of millions of sick people. You have an opioid crisis over there which the drug companies helped create. Those drug companies charge our NHS more for basic medicines than they cost in supermarkets.

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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:56 - Mar 20 with 1016 viewsPegojack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:36 - Mar 20 by Dr_Winston

Plenty of fresh produce in most places by the sounds of it. My local Premier store had bogroll and they weren't gouging the prices.


Thanks, Doc. I didn't word my post very well, my mother's OK for bog roll! She was telling me the food shelves were empty and that's what I was asking about.
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:58 - Mar 20 with 1006 viewsCatullus

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:01 - Mar 20 by Pegojack

Talking of running out of bogroll, my mother, who is 86 and virtually housebound in Baglan, was telling me the supermarkets were 'empty' in Port Talbot. She says my brother, who provides for her, has been driving around Neath and Swansea for hours trying to find things.
What's the true picture, guys? Is there plenty of food about?


There's plenty of food but other essential items are in short supply, only because of the selfish hoarders mind you.
The shelves are being restocked overnight but peope are queueing in the early hours and clearing the shelves of toilet roll, handwash etc

What's even worse, when NHS staff finish shifts and try to get shopping in they struggle because of the panic buying. Thing is, once a shelf is empty it takes a while to restock so people walk down an aisle of empty shelves and keep on going.

Small shops have stock too though, NISA, One Stop etc. Our two local small shops are worth a visit just don't take everything you selfish b'stards.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 14:02 - Mar 20 with 992 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Is this virus going to be the end of capitalism ? on 13:34 - Mar 20 by controversial_jack

Read this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/20/venezuela-revolt-truth-not


Nothing like posting an article from 2014 to hide the truth of what has happened in the last 5 years.

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