| Coronavirus figures 11:40 - Jun 12 with 5063 views | exhmrc1 |
Here is the evidence showing the Wag's policy is right.
Area - likely reproduction number (range of possibility) - Doubling/halving time for the number of new cases
East Midlands - 0.9 (0.7-1.1) - halves in 27 days
East of England - 0.7 (0.5-0.9) - halves in 9.7 days
London - 0.8 (0.6 - 1.1) - halves in 20 days
North East - 0.7 (0.5-1) - halves in 8. days
North West - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 17 days
Northern Ireland - 0.9 (0.6-1.2) - halves in 27 days
Scotland - 0.9 (0.6-1.1) - halves in 25 days
South East - 0.9 (0.7-1) - halves in 21 days
South West - 1 (0.7-1.3) - doubles in 90 days
Wales - 0.7 (0.5-0.8) - halves in 7.8 days
West Midlands - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 18 days
Yorkshire and The Humber - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 16 days
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| Coronavirus figures on 20:27 - Jun 12 with 1024 views | magicdaps10 |
I don't think you can stand at present and say the Welsh assembly are doing a good job at present.
A few weeks ago they seemed to stand but that stance has now gone...... To praise the Welsh govermant is to praise the London lot as well.
Numbers were always going to fall with lockdown but the numbers are still higher than they should be and I think the schools decision is an absolute joke, putting the planning on the schools themselves with little to no clear instructions but just issues of statements!
I prey to god that this call on schools doesn't bite back on us, anything but a drop in numbers between now and August is clearly a failure by them. |  |
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| Coronavirus figures on 20:56 - Jun 12 with 999 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:43 - Jun 12 by bennytheblue |
There’s been about 10 in Cardiff for about two weeks now, in a county population of around 600,000 it’s not very many is it? The r is almost under 7, it was 0.65 in Germany when restrictions were lifted.
Drakeford seems intent on pi$$ing off Westminster, maybe he thinks people will blame the Tories when thousands end up in the dole next year, not his Labour Party? Feel sorry for folks I know in west wales, desperate for some tourism but he’s intent in killing them off.
Plenty of other places around Europe open it seems. |
The fact is that Cardiff isnt coming down in the way it is elsewhere. There were more new cases in Cardiff today than Newport, Monmouthshire, Torfaen, Blaenau Gwent, Caerphilly, Powys, Neath Port Talbot, Swansea, Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire and Ceredigion combined. 7 between them all and Cardiff had 11.
When Cardiff and the Vale, Cwm Taf and the Betsi Cadwalladr area have 7 or even 10 between them it is likely restrictions will be relaxed. The areas with 7 new cases have approx. 1.2 million population compared to Cardiff's under 400,000. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 20:59 - Jun 12 with 994 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 20:27 - Jun 12 by magicdaps10 |
I don't think you can stand at present and say the Welsh assembly are doing a good job at present.
A few weeks ago they seemed to stand but that stance has now gone...... To praise the Welsh govermant is to praise the London lot as well.
Numbers were always going to fall with lockdown but the numbers are still higher than they should be and I think the schools decision is an absolute joke, putting the planning on the schools themselves with little to no clear instructions but just issues of statements!
I prey to god that this call on schools doesn't bite back on us, anything but a drop in numbers between now and August is clearly a failure by them. |
I hope you mean pray and not prey.
And the welsh assembly no longer exists, its the Welsh Parliament (in English).
The schools decision should be delayed until new academic year.
June and July are play time in schools.
This can only be a test for a full return in September.
I agree though, its pointless and carries risk. |  |
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| Coronavirus figures on 21:04 - Jun 12 with 992 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:47 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
Because having a haircut would risk both the Hairdresser or the customer getting infected due to how close they are. Nobody knows who is infected. This is standard practice throughout the UK not just Wales. As far as people travelling outside the local area this is to prevent the spread. It is far more likely someone in Cardiff and RCT is infected than Swansea at the moment so allowing somebody to travel to Swansea could increase the risk of it spreading. The figures prove that the lockdown and local is working and if everybody follows it the figures will continually reduce to next to nothing |
There have been less than 50 cases in Ceredigion since March.
So someone in Tregaron can't pop to the barber within 5 miles of their house (obviously with protection in place, when having his haircut ) because of cases in RCT which is probably a two hour drive away. Whereas someone from Newcastle could go to longleat to see the lions and cases continue to decrease.
That barber in Tregaron isn't paying business rates or tax and any employees of theirs are furloughed.
Cheers Drakeford, at least Westminster are picking up the furlough bill on your behalf.
Getting a hair cut probably isn't the best example, but you could say the same for a shop or pub.
No the figures prove Drakeford's lockdown is not working, North Wales have increased hugely since lockdown so have RCT. Northern Ireland, Scotland and England have seen sustained decreases whilst also knowing how they are going to get out of this situation.
I genuinely think Drakeford thinks the Welsh public are stupid. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:40 - Jun 12 with 974 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 21:04 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
There have been less than 50 cases in Ceredigion since March.
So someone in Tregaron can't pop to the barber within 5 miles of their house (obviously with protection in place, when having his haircut ) because of cases in RCT which is probably a two hour drive away. Whereas someone from Newcastle could go to longleat to see the lions and cases continue to decrease.
That barber in Tregaron isn't paying business rates or tax and any employees of theirs are furloughed.
Cheers Drakeford, at least Westminster are picking up the furlough bill on your behalf.
Getting a hair cut probably isn't the best example, but you could say the same for a shop or pub.
No the figures prove Drakeford's lockdown is not working, North Wales have increased hugely since lockdown so have RCT. Northern Ireland, Scotland and England have seen sustained decreases whilst also knowing how they are going to get out of this situation.
I genuinely think Drakeford thinks the Welsh public are stupid. |
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| Coronavirus figures on 21:41 - Jun 12 with 972 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 21:04 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
There have been less than 50 cases in Ceredigion since March.
So someone in Tregaron can't pop to the barber within 5 miles of their house (obviously with protection in place, when having his haircut ) because of cases in RCT which is probably a two hour drive away. Whereas someone from Newcastle could go to longleat to see the lions and cases continue to decrease.
That barber in Tregaron isn't paying business rates or tax and any employees of theirs are furloughed.
Cheers Drakeford, at least Westminster are picking up the furlough bill on your behalf.
Getting a hair cut probably isn't the best example, but you could say the same for a shop or pub.
No the figures prove Drakeford's lockdown is not working, North Wales have increased hugely since lockdown so have RCT. Northern Ireland, Scotland and England have seen sustained decreases whilst also knowing how they are going to get out of this situation.
I genuinely think Drakeford thinks the Welsh public are stupid. |
Whatever ideas you have are not borne out by the experts.
The increased death rate in Wales is lower in Wales than any where else in the UK. That is not my view but the figures provide by the ONS but obviously you know better.
The R rate is lower in Wales than the rest of the UK. Not my view. These are the official figures. Again you know better.
The childrens commissioner for ENGLAND has suggested that the UK government follows the Welsh model. You disagree as you know better.
Everywhere increased after lookdown and in most cases it peaked between March and April. Again you know better.
Everyday from 8 May to 26 May there were triple figures of new cases in Wales.
North Wales has been hugely impacted from the spread of cases from North West England and the figures have been slowly falling but need to go further.
From 5 May to 11 May there were 335 new cases. From the 5 June to 11 June there have been 155 new cases. Less than 1/2 the same period last month.
For the same period in Cwm Taf health board including RCT there was 156 to 56 ie nearly 2/3 less. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 21:57 - Jun 12 with 958 views | bennytheblue |
| Coronavirus figures on 20:56 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
The fact is that Cardiff isnt coming down in the way it is elsewhere. There were more new cases in Cardiff today than Newport, Monmouthshire, Torfaen, Blaenau Gwent, Caerphilly, Powys, Neath Port Talbot, Swansea, Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire and Ceredigion combined. 7 between them all and Cardiff had 11.
When Cardiff and the Vale, Cwm Taf and the Betsi Cadwalladr area have 7 or even 10 between them it is likely restrictions will be relaxed. The areas with 7 new cases have approx. 1.2 million population compared to Cardiff's under 400,000. |
Cardiff and vale county is more than 400,000, the city alone is almost that. Most of these cases are in care homes or hospitals I believe also, not so much in the public domain. |  | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:15 - Jun 12 with 948 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 21:57 - Jun 12 by bennytheblue |
Cardiff and vale county is more than 400,000, the city alone is almost that. Most of these cases are in care homes or hospitals I believe also, not so much in the public domain. |
The figures were for Cardiff alone. There were 18 cases including the Vale of Glamorgan nearly 3 times the amount of the others listed combined. The population of Cardiff was 346, 248 in 2017 so I gave you leeway for an extension since and said 400000 as a rough figure even though it probably hasnt increased as much as that. Even at 500,000 it still isnt half the population of all the others and has nearly double the numbers. | | | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 22:16 - Jun 12 with 946 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 21:41 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
Whatever ideas you have are not borne out by the experts.
The increased death rate in Wales is lower in Wales than any where else in the UK. That is not my view but the figures provide by the ONS but obviously you know better.
The R rate is lower in Wales than the rest of the UK. Not my view. These are the official figures. Again you know better.
The childrens commissioner for ENGLAND has suggested that the UK government follows the Welsh model. You disagree as you know better.
Everywhere increased after lookdown and in most cases it peaked between March and April. Again you know better.
Everyday from 8 May to 26 May there were triple figures of new cases in Wales.
North Wales has been hugely impacted from the spread of cases from North West England and the figures have been slowly falling but need to go further.
From 5 May to 11 May there were 335 new cases. From the 5 June to 11 June there have been 155 new cases. Less than 1/2 the same period last month.
For the same period in Cwm Taf health board including RCT there was 156 to 56 ie nearly 2/3 less. |
I hate this virus.
But you started this thread saying how well Wales was doing compared to everyone else, we are clearly the worst performers in the UK. Its not a competition, its a fact.
Of course there has been a decrease, if we didn't after lockdown I'd be seriously worried , but today we had almost 3 times the amount of cases than in Scotland which I think is geographically comparable to wales (but with 2 million more people!!). We've plateaued at around 40 cases a day whilst Scotland got down to the teens and on some days Northern Ireland had none, whilst supposedly having the strictest lick down.
A lot of those numbers, like the R number, are based on data from a couple of weeks ago. And irrespective of if NE Wales figures being because of NW England it is still Drakefords problem to solve, he isn't solving it and won't say how he is going to. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:35 - Jun 12 with 924 views | Scotia |
Every death is a tradegy, but its not really a surprise that London has the highest death toll is it? | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:53 - Jun 12 with 915 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:35 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
Every death is a tradegy, but its not really a surprise that London has the highest death toll is it? |
No not really but Lisa has been arguing otherwise. It is another piece of evidence that the Wag policy is working when Wales has the lowest death rates although no doubt you will somehow disagree with these figures like you have with everything else.
As far as Ceredigion was concerned it was always going to be one of the last places affected due to its Geographical location. It was also not as likely to suffer as many cases due to its rural location. Over the last 3 days there has been 2 new cases there more than Pembrokeshire and Powys which have 1 each and the same as Neath Port Talbot. If you open up tourism as you have suggested there is likely to be more cases there. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:07 - Jun 12 with 913 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:53 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
No not really but Lisa has been arguing otherwise. It is another piece of evidence that the Wag policy is working when Wales has the lowest death rates although no doubt you will somehow disagree with these figures like you have with everything else.
As far as Ceredigion was concerned it was always going to be one of the last places affected due to its Geographical location. It was also not as likely to suffer as many cases due to its rural location. Over the last 3 days there has been 2 new cases there more than Pembrokeshire and Powys which have 1 each and the same as Neath Port Talbot. If you open up tourism as you have suggested there is likely to be more cases there. |
I'm not suggesting opening tourism, I haven't at any point.
I'm basically suggesting that the beer garden of a pub in pontrhydfendigaid could open. But they can't, and don't know when they can, because Drakeford can't inspire people in RCT. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:18 - Jun 12 with 902 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:07 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
I'm not suggesting opening tourism, I haven't at any point.
I'm basically suggesting that the beer garden of a pub in pontrhydfendigaid could open. But they can't, and don't know when they can, because Drakeford can't inspire people in RCT. |
156 new cases to 56 speaks in RCT disputes your point but 11 a day is too many and does need to come down before the lockdown can be removed. Similarly the 9 a day in Cardiff is still too high and both need to come down to nearer 3 or even less per day hopefully over the next couple of weeks before schools re open. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:44 - Jun 12 with 883 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:18 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
156 new cases to 56 speaks in RCT disputes your point but 11 a day is too many and does need to come down before the lockdown can be removed. Similarly the 9 a day in Cardiff is still too high and both need to come down to nearer 3 or even less per day hopefully over the next couple of weeks before schools re open. |
Exhmrc1 thank you for taking the time to dig out all the facts.
Thank for educating other posters.
I cannot for the life of me Understand why people might want to ‘re-imagine’ the excellent work down by Professor Drakeford.
Its good news folks.
Less cases in Wales is fecking great news.
The Boris clown government could learn a lot.
Economies bounce back, corpses dont.
People first and avoid a second wave .... that is the right call. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 23:48 - Jun 12 with 882 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:16 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
I hate this virus.
But you started this thread saying how well Wales was doing compared to everyone else, we are clearly the worst performers in the UK. Its not a competition, its a fact.
Of course there has been a decrease, if we didn't after lockdown I'd be seriously worried , but today we had almost 3 times the amount of cases than in Scotland which I think is geographically comparable to wales (but with 2 million more people!!). We've plateaued at around 40 cases a day whilst Scotland got down to the teens and on some days Northern Ireland had none, whilst supposedly having the strictest lick down.
A lot of those numbers, like the R number, are based on data from a couple of weeks ago. And irrespective of if NE Wales figures being because of NW England it is still Drakefords problem to solve, he isn't solving it and won't say how he is going to. |
Scotland is 3.8 times as big as Wales.
The big Scottish cities are not near the English border. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 00:04 - Jun 13 with 875 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:16 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
I hate this virus.
But you started this thread saying how well Wales was doing compared to everyone else, we are clearly the worst performers in the UK. Its not a competition, its a fact.
Of course there has been a decrease, if we didn't after lockdown I'd be seriously worried , but today we had almost 3 times the amount of cases than in Scotland which I think is geographically comparable to wales (but with 2 million more people!!). We've plateaued at around 40 cases a day whilst Scotland got down to the teens and on some days Northern Ireland had none, whilst supposedly having the strictest lick down.
A lot of those numbers, like the R number, are based on data from a couple of weeks ago. And irrespective of if NE Wales figures being because of NW England it is still Drakefords problem to solve, he isn't solving it and won't say how he is going to. |
Your version doesnt fit with the independent facts.
Lowest percentage deaths BBC
Smallest percentage increase in deaths over previous 5 years ONS
Lowest Rate I believe it is SAGE
You can dress it up as you like but the independent bodies are showing that Wales has done far better than elsewhere when it was expected to suffer more. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 07:50 - Jun 13 with 830 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 23:48 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Scotland is 3.8 times as big as Wales.
The big Scottish cities are not near the English border. |
So you agree that Scotland are handling this better than Drakeford?
It is a much bigger country with a much bigger geographically dispersed population, similar to us, yet recently their infection number is in the teens whereas ours is creeping towards three figures. It makes no difference how close Edinburgh is to Newcastle, Powys is close to the west midlands but has hardly any cases.
Sturgeon is handling this far better than Drakeford, less cases and a clear way out of lock down. . | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 07:56 - Jun 13 with 828 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 00:04 - Jun 13 by exhmrc1 |
Your version doesnt fit with the independent facts.
Lowest percentage deaths BBC
Smallest percentage increase in deaths over previous 5 years ONS
Lowest Rate I believe it is SAGE
You can dress it up as you like but the independent bodies are showing that Wales has done far better than elsewhere when it was expected to suffer more. |
It's not my version and I'm not dressing it up. I'm purely looking at the current situation, I hope that changes.
Can you tell me, based on Drakeford traffic lights, when I'll be able to have a pint outside a pub? How many cases did we have yesterday compared to Northern Ireland? How many deaths did we have yesterday compared to Scotland?
It's not a like for like comparison but Drakeford is not doing a good job. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 09:40 - Jun 13 with 801 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 07:56 - Jun 13 by Scotia |
It's not my version and I'm not dressing it up. I'm purely looking at the current situation, I hope that changes.
Can you tell me, based on Drakeford traffic lights, when I'll be able to have a pint outside a pub? How many cases did we have yesterday compared to Northern Ireland? How many deaths did we have yesterday compared to Scotland?
It's not a like for like comparison but Drakeford is not doing a good job. |
The figures show fewer death's in Wales. That justifies Drakeford. There will always be daily fluctuations as deaths and cases shown on a specific day often relate to previous days due to when they are confirmed. As far as Northern Ireland is concerned it isnt a true reflection as it is an island and cases dont move from England there so easily. Part of the reason Johnson should have closed borders months ago to prevent the virus taking hold and as one of his own leading advisers has said had we entered lockdown a week earlier half the deaths would not have occurred. Cannot blame Drakeford for not closing borders. That is a UK government thing. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 09:59 - Jun 13 with 787 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:53 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
No not really but Lisa has been arguing otherwise. It is another piece of evidence that the Wag policy is working when Wales has the lowest death rates although no doubt you will somehow disagree with these figures like you have with everything else.
As far as Ceredigion was concerned it was always going to be one of the last places affected due to its Geographical location. It was also not as likely to suffer as many cases due to its rural location. Over the last 3 days there has been 2 new cases there more than Pembrokeshire and Powys which have 1 each and the same as Neath Port Talbot. If you open up tourism as you have suggested there is likely to be more cases there. |
I most certainly have not.
I have pointed out three things:
1. That cases are declining all over the country irrespective of the measures in place as it’s a function of time passing. It’s been declining more quickly in London than in Wales.
2. That the virus is far more complicated than people try to portray with how it infects people. Hammersmith, where I live, has seen lower infection rates per capita than Swansea despite having a far higher population density.
3. Lockdown itself is causing damage, both to the economy but also, importantly, to health. Putt8ng in measures that have no or little effect while causing misery and depression is lazy and counter productive.
Death rates are a completely different matter to infection rates. Any policy can only affect infection rates (where Swansea has been higher than Hammersmith). Not death rates (the other way round). That’s because the population differences (Hammersmith has a far, far higher BAME population) are affecting health outcomes of infected people.
There is nothing that Drakeford could do during the pandemic that would change the health outcome of an infected person. So don’t pretend it could be affected by his policy. There are wider policies that may affect outcomes (beds, intensive care availability etc etc) but on pretty much each measure Wales does worse than England on healthcare in general terms. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 11:04 - Jun 13 with 766 views | Dr_Winston |
| Coronavirus figures on 00:04 - Jun 13 by exhmrc1 |
Your version doesnt fit with the independent facts.
Lowest percentage deaths BBC
Smallest percentage increase in deaths over previous 5 years ONS
Lowest Rate I believe it is SAGE
You can dress it up as you like but the independent bodies are showing that Wales has done far better than elsewhere when it was expected to suffer more. |
The suffering in Wales has barely begun. Once the economic problems tied to their inaction over beginning to allow businesses to reopen or tourist areas to try and salvage something of the year begin to kick in then we'll see how bad things can get.
Hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs, businesses or livelihoods because the Welsh Gov are happy to sit back and let things wither on the vine. Just the fact that they're already trying to rule out relaxing the silly 5 mile rule even into August sums them up.
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| Coronavirus figures on 11:09 - Jun 13 with 762 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 09:59 - Jun 13 by londonlisa2001 |
I most certainly have not.
I have pointed out three things:
1. That cases are declining all over the country irrespective of the measures in place as it’s a function of time passing. It’s been declining more quickly in London than in Wales.
2. That the virus is far more complicated than people try to portray with how it infects people. Hammersmith, where I live, has seen lower infection rates per capita than Swansea despite having a far higher population density.
3. Lockdown itself is causing damage, both to the economy but also, importantly, to health. Putt8ng in measures that have no or little effect while causing misery and depression is lazy and counter productive.
Death rates are a completely different matter to infection rates. Any policy can only affect infection rates (where Swansea has been higher than Hammersmith). Not death rates (the other way round). That’s because the population differences (Hammersmith has a far, far higher BAME population) are affecting health outcomes of infected people.
There is nothing that Drakeford could do during the pandemic that would change the health outcome of an infected person. So don’t pretend it could be affected by his policy. There are wider policies that may affect outcomes (beds, intensive care availability etc etc) but on pretty much each measure Wales does worse than England on healthcare in general terms. |
so why is the R figure lower in Wales than London. Why did the children's commissioner for England suggest following the Welsh schools method. Why are increased percentage death's this year lower here than London. And yes you disputed the R figures.
"Plus the numbers are wrong in the first place"
"The numbers are complete crap.
There are several regions given there with the same ‘R’ number which have different ‘halving’ times.
Plus the R number is a function of number of cases as well.
In a region with few cases, any single day is going to see the R number shoot up and down. It’s a nonsensical measure taken in the way the original post has taken it.
If Hammersmith has 2 cases this week and 2 next week the R is ‘1’ "
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| Coronavirus figures on 15:21 - Jun 13 with 732 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Coronavirus figures on 11:09 - Jun 13 by exhmrc1 |
so why is the R figure lower in Wales than London. Why did the children's commissioner for England suggest following the Welsh schools method. Why are increased percentage death's this year lower here than London. And yes you disputed the R figures.
"Plus the numbers are wrong in the first place"
"The numbers are complete crap.
There are several regions given there with the same ‘R’ number which have different ‘halving’ times.
Plus the R number is a function of number of cases as well.
In a region with few cases, any single day is going to see the R number shoot up and down. It’s a nonsensical measure taken in the way the original post has taken it.
If Hammersmith has 2 cases this week and 2 next week the R is ‘1’ "
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Because as you’ve just quoted, the R number is a function of number of cases as well. As cases dwindle the R number changes on one or two people being infected.
And the death rate, as I’ve explained, isn’t what governments are controlling. It’s the infection rate. If there are less people infected in Hammersmith but more deaths, there’s nothing that policy could have done to change that, once the infection has taken place.
I didn’t dispute the R numbers - I disputed the halving / doubling calculations (as I also previously said) which showed three regions with the same R number having different halving times in days.
I’m sorry, but the way you’re extrapolating the data makes no sense. It’s far too simplistic to concentrate on just one measure. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 15:31 - Jun 13 with 721 views | majorraglan |
| Coronavirus figures on 22:53 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
No not really but Lisa has been arguing otherwise. It is another piece of evidence that the Wag policy is working when Wales has the lowest death rates although no doubt you will somehow disagree with these figures like you have with everything else.
As far as Ceredigion was concerned it was always going to be one of the last places affected due to its Geographical location. It was also not as likely to suffer as many cases due to its rural location. Over the last 3 days there has been 2 new cases there more than Pembrokeshire and Powys which have 1 each and the same as Neath Port Talbot. If you open up tourism as you have suggested there is likely to be more cases there. |
You make some very good points. Ceredigion in addition to to rurality has also benefited from the enforcement work undertaken by Dyfed Powys Police and North Wales Police who have targeted travellers coming in to Wales and their areas, Ceredigion have also benefited from the foresight Ceredigion County Council had to introduce their own test, trace and isolate programme at the outset of the pandemic. I think their results deal for themselves. | | | |
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