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Is the lock down ending too soon? 04:59 - Jul 1 with 126615 viewsGlyn1

That's basically it.

Thoughts please.
[Post edited 1 Jul 2020 5:00]

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:31 - Jul 4 with 1655 viewspencoedjack

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:34 - Jul 4 by bennytheblue

Mate of mine bought one on amazon I think he said, about £80.

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[Post edited 4 Jul 2020 19:36]


Reading the reviews I’ll leave that option to your mates.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:37 - Jul 4 with 1644 viewsBillyChong

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:12 - Jul 4 by builthjack

Or the self employed for less than a year who got nothing at all


Fair point. The Tories have used this to discourage self employment and improve their tax reporting.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:44 - Jul 4 with 1631 viewspencoedjack

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:37 - Jul 4 by BillyChong

Fair point. The Tories have used this to discourage self employment and improve their tax reporting.


Come on the Tories can be accused of many things but ‘discouraging self employment’ is certainly not one of them.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:07 - Jul 4 with 1617 viewsJack123

It needs to end asap, enough of this rubbish, hardly any cases in Swansea, yet Doctors are still shut! Try phoning them up, you more or less told to use the internet for questions, and then when you say I'd rather not use the internet, you get a doctor ringing you back an hour later!

I will always be careful because of relatives, but we need to get back to normal soon as..and it would make no difference to me financially if we stayed like this for years, but mentally most definitely.. I know it's a bit of a horrid thing to say, but the way we are now, I'd rather catch it, than live like this.

libera nos a malo

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:19 - Jul 4 with 1608 viewscontroversial_jack

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 18:57 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

Is it possible to get this antibody test anywhere?


I believe it's only for NHS staff at the moment
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:24 - Jul 4 with 1599 viewscontroversial_jack

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:08 - Jul 4 by perplex

The Hospitals have been empty in most places and they still have denied patients with the potential to die from far more serious stuff than the covid virus, and you do not know for a fact that the hospitals would have been crammed, an example of that is Sweden, they never locked down and to this day have only 5000 deaths, granted more than there neighbours who did lock down however due to continuing normal medical care for everyone they estimate to have probably saved up to half a million lives in the long run.


Sweden has a population 7 times less then the UK, and is not really a transport hub like the UK is.If you want to make comparisons with countries that haven't locked down, look at the US and Brazil
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:06 - Jul 5 with 1579 viewsEbo

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:25 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

You have to be jesting.

I manage 18 people 13 furloughed since March I had to ring to get an additional 3 back in work for July 1st.

2 were desperate to come back

7 gave the standard I don’t mind either way ( at least they showed willing)

4 said they would stay off as long as possible as long as it was 80% pay.

11 of the 13 furloughed had 2 weeks off prior to being furloughed with CV19 symptoms the 5 lads working haven’t lost a day.

I’d imagine most large companies have similar percentages


You forget to factor in that some parents have kids at home from school as well. What if both are furloughed and have to come back at the same time? Who looks after the kids.

You are making a sweeping statement based on a handful of people as most I know who are furloughed are worrying if they have a job to go back to the longer it goes on.

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:09 - Jul 5 with 1577 viewsEbo

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 08:48 - Jul 4 by raynor94

With respect that post is laughable, 3 months off work on full pay, mortgage and loan holidays if you want, they have had a whale of a time, as the beaches have shown.

Sadly as firms have to start contributing a greater amount the redundancies will start, it's already started in the food and beverage sector


80% pay with still having to pay bills and the worry if your job is still safe? You think that's nice?

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:13 - Jul 5 with 1567 viewslifelong

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:08 - Jul 4 by perplex

The Hospitals have been empty in most places and they still have denied patients with the potential to die from far more serious stuff than the covid virus, and you do not know for a fact that the hospitals would have been crammed, an example of that is Sweden, they never locked down and to this day have only 5000 deaths, granted more than there neighbours who did lock down however due to continuing normal medical care for everyone they estimate to have probably saved up to half a million lives in the long run.


Only 5000 deaths?

You’ll be saying next that the UK only had about 60,000 deaths, how many of those lives do you think could have been saved if we had locked down earlier?
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:25 - Jul 5 with 1563 viewsexhmrc1

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:07 - Jul 4 by Jack123

It needs to end asap, enough of this rubbish, hardly any cases in Swansea, yet Doctors are still shut! Try phoning them up, you more or less told to use the internet for questions, and then when you say I'd rather not use the internet, you get a doctor ringing you back an hour later!

I will always be careful because of relatives, but we need to get back to normal soon as..and it would make no difference to me financially if we stayed like this for years, but mentally most definitely.. I know it's a bit of a horrid thing to say, but the way we are now, I'd rather catch it, than live like this.


There have been very few cases in Swansea or Wales generally as the attached chart shows. A couple of problem areas but the rest are very low. I suspect phone appointments will go on for some time possibly forever as they are popular with nhs staff.
Infection rates by local authority
Number of cases per 100,000 over seven days

Local authority Latest figures Previous week
Antrim and Newtownabbey 0 4.21
Ards and North Down 2.49 0
Armagh City Banbridge Craigavon 0.47 0
Ayrshire and Arran 1.08 1.62
Barking and Dagenham 5.66 1.42
Barnet 1.53 2.3
Barnsley 35.07 54.65
Bath and North East Somerset 0 1.04
Bedford 18.06 41.95
Belfast 1.17 1.17
Bexley 3.24 4.45
Birmingham 6.48 9.64
Blackburn with Darwen 20.81 32.9
Blackpool 13.64 10.77
Blaenau Gwent 1.43 7.16
Bolton 23.48 15.77
Borders -0.87 0.8
Bournemouth Christchurch Poole 1.01 1.26
Bracknell Forest 1.64 4.11
Bradford 45.8 69.44
Brent 5.44 5.14
Bridgend 1.36 2.04
Brighton and Hove 2.41 5.17
Bristol, City of 1.94 1.94
Bromley 0.6 2.11
Buckinghamshire 3.52 6.11
Bury 6.31 13.15
Caerphilly 1.1 3.31
Calderdale 14.76 12.38
Cambridgeshire 3.68 5.07
Camden 0.38 1.91
Cardiff 6 7.09
Carmarthenshire 6.89 4.77
Causeway Coast and Glens 0.69 3.47
Central Bedfordshire 5.64 15.87
Ceredigion 1.38 8.25
Cheshire East 11.29 16.02
Cheshire West and Chester 9.69 12.33
City of London 0 0
Conwy 11.95 21.33
Cornwall and Isles of Scilly 1.41 0.7
County Durham 4.55 5.12
Coventry 1.36 5.73
Croydon 2.85 1.56
Cumbria 3.61 5.81
Darlington 0.94 4.69
Denbighshire 5.22 15.67
Derby 12.83 24.5
Derbyshire 6.53 9.67
Derry City and Strabane 0 0
Devon 0.38 1.01
Doncaster 21.25 17.39
Dorset 1.06 1.06
Dudley 2.18 3.74
Dumfries and Galloway 4.03 7.39
Ealing 6.73 4.09
East Riding of Yorkshire 4.71 14.13
East Sussex 4.51 9.02
Eileanan Siar (Western Isles) 0 0
Enfield 3.59 2.7
Essex 3.52 5.82
Fermanagh and Omagh 0 0.86
Fife 0.54 0
Flintshire 5.77 13.45
Forth Valley 2.94 3.26
Gateshead 0.49 3.46
Gloucestershire 0.95 0.63
Grampian 1.37 0.68
Greater Glasgow and Clyde 2.03 2.03
Greenwich 2.45 3.14
Gwynedd 5.62 38.54
Hackney 1.43 2.5
Halton 6.23 6.23
Hammersmith and Fulham 12.4 5.93
Hampshire 0.44 1.24
Haringey 2.96 2.59
Harrow 2.8 1.6
Hartlepool 6.43 4.29
Havering 5.43 1.94
Herefordshire 1.56 2.08
Hertfordshire 2.36 4.64
Highland 0.31 0.31
Hillingdon 5.91 2.62
Hounslow 9.23 7.39
Isle of Anglesey 9.99 108.5
Isle of Wight 2.12 2.83
Islington 0.84 2.93
Kensington and Chelsea 6.4 7.68
Kent 10.01 13.45
Kingston upon Hull 3.84 22.64
Kingston upon Thames 1.71 1.14
Kirklees 26.21 30.31
Knowsley 20.06 6.02
Lambeth 0.31 0.92
Lanarkshire 1.36 5.59
Lancashire 7.44 15.04
Leeds 11.66 19.77
Leicester 141.32 140.2
Leicestershire 17.33 20.77
Lewisham 1.65 1.98
Lincolnshire 3.04 5.69
Lisburn and Castlereagh 3.46 2.77
Liverpool 7.68 6.26
Lothian 0.11 2.97
Luton 14.95 26.62
Manchester 17.53 21.55
Medway 4.68 6.12
Merthyr Tydfil 179.03 9.95
Merton 5.82 4.36
Mid and East Antrim 1.44 5.04
Mid Ulster 0 0.68
Middlesbrough 6.4 7.83
Milton Keynes 4.1 10.8
Monmouthshire 3.17 2.11
Neath Port Talbot 1.4 2.79
Newcastle upon Tyne 3.66 5.33
Newham 1.7 3.41
Newport 1.94 0
Newry, Mourne and Down 1.11 2.78
Norfolk 1.55 4.32
North East Lincolnshire 1.88 1.88
North Lincolnshire 3.49 4.65
North Somerset 3.74 1.4
North Tyneside 2.91 4.85
North Yorkshire 5.04 13.83
Northamptonshire 9.9 14.85
Northumberland 2.19 3.43
Nottingham 8.46 10.57
Nottinghamshire 5.35 12.63
Oldham 30.13 38.62
Orkney 0 0
Oxfordshire 4.36 5.09
Pembrokeshire 0.79 0.79
Peterborough 18.9 27.86
Plymouth 2.28 1.52
Portsmouth 0 0.93
Powys 1.51 3.02
Reading 3.06 1.84
Redbridge 2.3 3.62
Redcar and Cleveland 5.12 0.73
Rhondda Cynon Taf 3.73 7.46
Richmond upon Thames 3.05 1.02
Rochdale 35 53.64
Rotherham 26.07 33.63
Rutland 0 2.52
Salford 7.86 10.22
Sandwell 5.5 7.33
Sefton 4.72 8.35
Sheffield 24.38 20.6
Shetland 0 0
Shropshire 7.18 13.74
Slough 8.72 13.41
Solihull 6.51 4.65
Somerset 0.89 4.65
South Gloucestershire 0.71 0.35
South Tyneside 0.67 0
Southampton 0.4 5.54
Southend-on-Sea 8.22 20.83
Southwark 1.58 3.47
St. Helens 6.66 6.66
Staffordshire 7.88 9.37
Stockport 6.51 12.34
Stockton-on-Tees 5.58 14.7
Stoke-on-Trent 14.07 17.98
Suffolk 0.92 1.45
Sunderland 1.8 1.8
Surrey 2.94 3.7
Sutton 1.47 1.96
Swansea 0 0.4
Swindon 6.76 10.36
Tameside 16.87 33.3
Tayside 1.2 0.96
Telford and Wrekin 5.06 8.44
Thurrock 6.96 12.17
Torbay 0 0.74
Torfaen 2.13 0
Tower Hamlets 0.94 2.83
Trafford 3.81 10.15
Vale of Glamorgan 2.99 11.98
Wakefield 8.98 18.55
Walsall 3.18 4.59
Waltham Forest 4.7 5.42
Wandsworth 3.98 2.76
Warrington 5.73 9.07
Warwickshire 5.6 10.33
West Berkshire 1.26 0
West Sussex 2.91 3.26
Westminster 4.7 5.09
Wigan 4.6 5.52
Wiltshire 1.41 1.2
Windsor and Maidenhead 0.66 1.99
Wirral 8.35 19.18
Wokingham 2.98 0.6
Wolverhampton 7.63 9.92
Worcestershire 3.55 5.74
Wrexham 38.25 98.56
York 1.91 6.67
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:39 - Jul 5 with 1547 viewsJack123

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:25 - Jul 5 by exhmrc1

There have been very few cases in Swansea or Wales generally as the attached chart shows. A couple of problem areas but the rest are very low. I suspect phone appointments will go on for some time possibly forever as they are popular with nhs staff.
Infection rates by local authority
Number of cases per 100,000 over seven days

Local authority Latest figures Previous week
Antrim and Newtownabbey 0 4.21
Ards and North Down 2.49 0
Armagh City Banbridge Craigavon 0.47 0
Ayrshire and Arran 1.08 1.62
Barking and Dagenham 5.66 1.42
Barnet 1.53 2.3
Barnsley 35.07 54.65
Bath and North East Somerset 0 1.04
Bedford 18.06 41.95
Belfast 1.17 1.17
Bexley 3.24 4.45
Birmingham 6.48 9.64
Blackburn with Darwen 20.81 32.9
Blackpool 13.64 10.77
Blaenau Gwent 1.43 7.16
Bolton 23.48 15.77
Borders -0.87 0.8
Bournemouth Christchurch Poole 1.01 1.26
Bracknell Forest 1.64 4.11
Bradford 45.8 69.44
Brent 5.44 5.14
Bridgend 1.36 2.04
Brighton and Hove 2.41 5.17
Bristol, City of 1.94 1.94
Bromley 0.6 2.11
Buckinghamshire 3.52 6.11
Bury 6.31 13.15
Caerphilly 1.1 3.31
Calderdale 14.76 12.38
Cambridgeshire 3.68 5.07
Camden 0.38 1.91
Cardiff 6 7.09
Carmarthenshire 6.89 4.77
Causeway Coast and Glens 0.69 3.47
Central Bedfordshire 5.64 15.87
Ceredigion 1.38 8.25
Cheshire East 11.29 16.02
Cheshire West and Chester 9.69 12.33
City of London 0 0
Conwy 11.95 21.33
Cornwall and Isles of Scilly 1.41 0.7
County Durham 4.55 5.12
Coventry 1.36 5.73
Croydon 2.85 1.56
Cumbria 3.61 5.81
Darlington 0.94 4.69
Denbighshire 5.22 15.67
Derby 12.83 24.5
Derbyshire 6.53 9.67
Derry City and Strabane 0 0
Devon 0.38 1.01
Doncaster 21.25 17.39
Dorset 1.06 1.06
Dudley 2.18 3.74
Dumfries and Galloway 4.03 7.39
Ealing 6.73 4.09
East Riding of Yorkshire 4.71 14.13
East Sussex 4.51 9.02
Eileanan Siar (Western Isles) 0 0
Enfield 3.59 2.7
Essex 3.52 5.82
Fermanagh and Omagh 0 0.86
Fife 0.54 0
Flintshire 5.77 13.45
Forth Valley 2.94 3.26
Gateshead 0.49 3.46
Gloucestershire 0.95 0.63
Grampian 1.37 0.68
Greater Glasgow and Clyde 2.03 2.03
Greenwich 2.45 3.14
Gwynedd 5.62 38.54
Hackney 1.43 2.5
Halton 6.23 6.23
Hammersmith and Fulham 12.4 5.93
Hampshire 0.44 1.24
Haringey 2.96 2.59
Harrow 2.8 1.6
Hartlepool 6.43 4.29
Havering 5.43 1.94
Herefordshire 1.56 2.08
Hertfordshire 2.36 4.64
Highland 0.31 0.31
Hillingdon 5.91 2.62
Hounslow 9.23 7.39
Isle of Anglesey 9.99 108.5
Isle of Wight 2.12 2.83
Islington 0.84 2.93
Kensington and Chelsea 6.4 7.68
Kent 10.01 13.45
Kingston upon Hull 3.84 22.64
Kingston upon Thames 1.71 1.14
Kirklees 26.21 30.31
Knowsley 20.06 6.02
Lambeth 0.31 0.92
Lanarkshire 1.36 5.59
Lancashire 7.44 15.04
Leeds 11.66 19.77
Leicester 141.32 140.2
Leicestershire 17.33 20.77
Lewisham 1.65 1.98
Lincolnshire 3.04 5.69
Lisburn and Castlereagh 3.46 2.77
Liverpool 7.68 6.26
Lothian 0.11 2.97
Luton 14.95 26.62
Manchester 17.53 21.55
Medway 4.68 6.12
Merthyr Tydfil 179.03 9.95
Merton 5.82 4.36
Mid and East Antrim 1.44 5.04
Mid Ulster 0 0.68
Middlesbrough 6.4 7.83
Milton Keynes 4.1 10.8
Monmouthshire 3.17 2.11
Neath Port Talbot 1.4 2.79
Newcastle upon Tyne 3.66 5.33
Newham 1.7 3.41
Newport 1.94 0
Newry, Mourne and Down 1.11 2.78
Norfolk 1.55 4.32
North East Lincolnshire 1.88 1.88
North Lincolnshire 3.49 4.65
North Somerset 3.74 1.4
North Tyneside 2.91 4.85
North Yorkshire 5.04 13.83
Northamptonshire 9.9 14.85
Northumberland 2.19 3.43
Nottingham 8.46 10.57
Nottinghamshire 5.35 12.63
Oldham 30.13 38.62
Orkney 0 0
Oxfordshire 4.36 5.09
Pembrokeshire 0.79 0.79
Peterborough 18.9 27.86
Plymouth 2.28 1.52
Portsmouth 0 0.93
Powys 1.51 3.02
Reading 3.06 1.84
Redbridge 2.3 3.62
Redcar and Cleveland 5.12 0.73
Rhondda Cynon Taf 3.73 7.46
Richmond upon Thames 3.05 1.02
Rochdale 35 53.64
Rotherham 26.07 33.63
Rutland 0 2.52
Salford 7.86 10.22
Sandwell 5.5 7.33
Sefton 4.72 8.35
Sheffield 24.38 20.6
Shetland 0 0
Shropshire 7.18 13.74
Slough 8.72 13.41
Solihull 6.51 4.65
Somerset 0.89 4.65
South Gloucestershire 0.71 0.35
South Tyneside 0.67 0
Southampton 0.4 5.54
Southend-on-Sea 8.22 20.83
Southwark 1.58 3.47
St. Helens 6.66 6.66
Staffordshire 7.88 9.37
Stockport 6.51 12.34
Stockton-on-Tees 5.58 14.7
Stoke-on-Trent 14.07 17.98
Suffolk 0.92 1.45
Sunderland 1.8 1.8
Surrey 2.94 3.7
Sutton 1.47 1.96
Swansea 0 0.4
Swindon 6.76 10.36
Tameside 16.87 33.3
Tayside 1.2 0.96
Telford and Wrekin 5.06 8.44
Thurrock 6.96 12.17
Torbay 0 0.74
Torfaen 2.13 0
Tower Hamlets 0.94 2.83
Trafford 3.81 10.15
Vale of Glamorgan 2.99 11.98
Wakefield 8.98 18.55
Walsall 3.18 4.59
Waltham Forest 4.7 5.42
Wandsworth 3.98 2.76
Warrington 5.73 9.07
Warwickshire 5.6 10.33
West Berkshire 1.26 0
West Sussex 2.91 3.26
Westminster 4.7 5.09
Wigan 4.6 5.52
Wiltshire 1.41 1.2
Windsor and Maidenhead 0.66 1.99
Wirral 8.35 19.18
Wokingham 2.98 0.6
Wolverhampton 7.63 9.92
Worcestershire 3.55 5.74
Wrexham 38.25 98.56
York 1.91 6.67


It's a disgrace, I mean if you would have said to me 10 year ago, do you think there would be any excess deaths if we shut the hospitals, doctors down for 6 months..

libera nos a malo

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 01:13 - Jul 5 with 1519 viewsmajorraglan

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:25 - Jul 5 by exhmrc1

There have been very few cases in Swansea or Wales generally as the attached chart shows. A couple of problem areas but the rest are very low. I suspect phone appointments will go on for some time possibly forever as they are popular with nhs staff.
Infection rates by local authority
Number of cases per 100,000 over seven days

Local authority Latest figures Previous week
Antrim and Newtownabbey 0 4.21
Ards and North Down 2.49 0
Armagh City Banbridge Craigavon 0.47 0
Ayrshire and Arran 1.08 1.62
Barking and Dagenham 5.66 1.42
Barnet 1.53 2.3
Barnsley 35.07 54.65
Bath and North East Somerset 0 1.04
Bedford 18.06 41.95
Belfast 1.17 1.17
Bexley 3.24 4.45
Birmingham 6.48 9.64
Blackburn with Darwen 20.81 32.9
Blackpool 13.64 10.77
Blaenau Gwent 1.43 7.16
Bolton 23.48 15.77
Borders -0.87 0.8
Bournemouth Christchurch Poole 1.01 1.26
Bracknell Forest 1.64 4.11
Bradford 45.8 69.44
Brent 5.44 5.14
Bridgend 1.36 2.04
Brighton and Hove 2.41 5.17
Bristol, City of 1.94 1.94
Bromley 0.6 2.11
Buckinghamshire 3.52 6.11
Bury 6.31 13.15
Caerphilly 1.1 3.31
Calderdale 14.76 12.38
Cambridgeshire 3.68 5.07
Camden 0.38 1.91
Cardiff 6 7.09
Carmarthenshire 6.89 4.77
Causeway Coast and Glens 0.69 3.47
Central Bedfordshire 5.64 15.87
Ceredigion 1.38 8.25
Cheshire East 11.29 16.02
Cheshire West and Chester 9.69 12.33
City of London 0 0
Conwy 11.95 21.33
Cornwall and Isles of Scilly 1.41 0.7
County Durham 4.55 5.12
Coventry 1.36 5.73
Croydon 2.85 1.56
Cumbria 3.61 5.81
Darlington 0.94 4.69
Denbighshire 5.22 15.67
Derby 12.83 24.5
Derbyshire 6.53 9.67
Derry City and Strabane 0 0
Devon 0.38 1.01
Doncaster 21.25 17.39
Dorset 1.06 1.06
Dudley 2.18 3.74
Dumfries and Galloway 4.03 7.39
Ealing 6.73 4.09
East Riding of Yorkshire 4.71 14.13
East Sussex 4.51 9.02
Eileanan Siar (Western Isles) 0 0
Enfield 3.59 2.7
Essex 3.52 5.82
Fermanagh and Omagh 0 0.86
Fife 0.54 0
Flintshire 5.77 13.45
Forth Valley 2.94 3.26
Gateshead 0.49 3.46
Gloucestershire 0.95 0.63
Grampian 1.37 0.68
Greater Glasgow and Clyde 2.03 2.03
Greenwich 2.45 3.14
Gwynedd 5.62 38.54
Hackney 1.43 2.5
Halton 6.23 6.23
Hammersmith and Fulham 12.4 5.93
Hampshire 0.44 1.24
Haringey 2.96 2.59
Harrow 2.8 1.6
Hartlepool 6.43 4.29
Havering 5.43 1.94
Herefordshire 1.56 2.08
Hertfordshire 2.36 4.64
Highland 0.31 0.31
Hillingdon 5.91 2.62
Hounslow 9.23 7.39
Isle of Anglesey 9.99 108.5
Isle of Wight 2.12 2.83
Islington 0.84 2.93
Kensington and Chelsea 6.4 7.68
Kent 10.01 13.45
Kingston upon Hull 3.84 22.64
Kingston upon Thames 1.71 1.14
Kirklees 26.21 30.31
Knowsley 20.06 6.02
Lambeth 0.31 0.92
Lanarkshire 1.36 5.59
Lancashire 7.44 15.04
Leeds 11.66 19.77
Leicester 141.32 140.2
Leicestershire 17.33 20.77
Lewisham 1.65 1.98
Lincolnshire 3.04 5.69
Lisburn and Castlereagh 3.46 2.77
Liverpool 7.68 6.26
Lothian 0.11 2.97
Luton 14.95 26.62
Manchester 17.53 21.55
Medway 4.68 6.12
Merthyr Tydfil 179.03 9.95
Merton 5.82 4.36
Mid and East Antrim 1.44 5.04
Mid Ulster 0 0.68
Middlesbrough 6.4 7.83
Milton Keynes 4.1 10.8
Monmouthshire 3.17 2.11
Neath Port Talbot 1.4 2.79
Newcastle upon Tyne 3.66 5.33
Newham 1.7 3.41
Newport 1.94 0
Newry, Mourne and Down 1.11 2.78
Norfolk 1.55 4.32
North East Lincolnshire 1.88 1.88
North Lincolnshire 3.49 4.65
North Somerset 3.74 1.4
North Tyneside 2.91 4.85
North Yorkshire 5.04 13.83
Northamptonshire 9.9 14.85
Northumberland 2.19 3.43
Nottingham 8.46 10.57
Nottinghamshire 5.35 12.63
Oldham 30.13 38.62
Orkney 0 0
Oxfordshire 4.36 5.09
Pembrokeshire 0.79 0.79
Peterborough 18.9 27.86
Plymouth 2.28 1.52
Portsmouth 0 0.93
Powys 1.51 3.02
Reading 3.06 1.84
Redbridge 2.3 3.62
Redcar and Cleveland 5.12 0.73
Rhondda Cynon Taf 3.73 7.46
Richmond upon Thames 3.05 1.02
Rochdale 35 53.64
Rotherham 26.07 33.63
Rutland 0 2.52
Salford 7.86 10.22
Sandwell 5.5 7.33
Sefton 4.72 8.35
Sheffield 24.38 20.6
Shetland 0 0
Shropshire 7.18 13.74
Slough 8.72 13.41
Solihull 6.51 4.65
Somerset 0.89 4.65
South Gloucestershire 0.71 0.35
South Tyneside 0.67 0
Southampton 0.4 5.54
Southend-on-Sea 8.22 20.83
Southwark 1.58 3.47
St. Helens 6.66 6.66
Staffordshire 7.88 9.37
Stockport 6.51 12.34
Stockton-on-Tees 5.58 14.7
Stoke-on-Trent 14.07 17.98
Suffolk 0.92 1.45
Sunderland 1.8 1.8
Surrey 2.94 3.7
Sutton 1.47 1.96
Swansea 0 0.4
Swindon 6.76 10.36
Tameside 16.87 33.3
Tayside 1.2 0.96
Telford and Wrekin 5.06 8.44
Thurrock 6.96 12.17
Torbay 0 0.74
Torfaen 2.13 0
Tower Hamlets 0.94 2.83
Trafford 3.81 10.15
Vale of Glamorgan 2.99 11.98
Wakefield 8.98 18.55
Walsall 3.18 4.59
Waltham Forest 4.7 5.42
Wandsworth 3.98 2.76
Warrington 5.73 9.07
Warwickshire 5.6 10.33
West Berkshire 1.26 0
West Sussex 2.91 3.26
Westminster 4.7 5.09
Wigan 4.6 5.52
Wiltshire 1.41 1.2
Windsor and Maidenhead 0.66 1.99
Wirral 8.35 19.18
Wokingham 2.98 0.6
Wolverhampton 7.63 9.92
Worcestershire 3.55 5.74
Wrexham 38.25 98.56
York 1.91 6.67


Swansea, Neath Port Talbot, Pembs and Ceredigion on the downward trajectory, Carmarthenshire on the up albeit not significantly. Let’s hope we can keep things going in the right direction.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:57 - Jul 5 with 1473 viewsbennytheblue

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:31 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

Reading the reviews I’ll leave that option to your mates.


You don’t fancy jabbing a vein and squeezing a few bottles of blood out? Come on penc why ever not? You are a tough guy I heard.....
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:43 - Jul 5 with 1446 viewsexhmrc1

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 01:13 - Jul 5 by majorraglan

Swansea, Neath Port Talbot, Pembs and Ceredigion on the downward trajectory, Carmarthenshire on the up albeit not significantly. Let’s hope we can keep things going in the right direction.


The figures quite clearly demonstrate the very low figure throughout South, Mid and West Wales with Ceredigion, Powys, Pembrokeshire, Swansea, Neath Port Talbot, Caerphilly, Blaenau Gwent, Torfaen, Newport and Monmouthshire all showing very low figures. Swansea and Neath Port Talbot figures will rise marginally next week as there have been a couple of cases in the last few days but will still be very low. Cardiff, RCT, Vale of Glamorgan and Carmarthenshire will probably be lower next week as there have been fewer cases recently. The figure for Merthyr Tydfil is misleading and will drop has happened in the Isle of Angelsey this week as it includes a one off day of 100 cases which wont be included in next weeks figures.

Again in North Wales there have been very few cases in recent days so the figures for Angelsey, Gwynedd, Conwy and Denbighshire should show further reductions next week.

The only area of Wales that will remain high will be Wrexham as all the tests in Rowan Foods have yet to be completed. Flint might also be affected by this but to a lesser effect. It is also noticeable that the areas in North West England close to these counties are also suffering higher figures.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:02 - Jul 5 with 1432 viewsAndy1300

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:06 - Jul 5 by Ebo

You forget to factor in that some parents have kids at home from school as well. What if both are furloughed and have to come back at the same time? Who looks after the kids.

You are making a sweeping statement based on a handful of people as most I know who are furloughed are worrying if they have a job to go back to the longer it goes on.


Who would look after the kids in school holidays?

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:04 - Jul 5 with 1427 viewsAndy1300

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:09 - Jul 5 by Ebo

80% pay with still having to pay bills and the worry if your job is still safe? You think that's nice?


Some of those people clearly did, some don’t want to go back, look at teachers, then again, they are on full pay. The militant unions are a disgrace and have caused problems for this generation of school children.

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:19 - Jul 5 with 1413 viewspencoedjack

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:06 - Jul 5 by Ebo

You forget to factor in that some parents have kids at home from school as well. What if both are furloughed and have to come back at the same time? Who looks after the kids.

You are making a sweeping statement based on a handful of people as most I know who are furloughed are worrying if they have a job to go back to the longer it goes on.


Only 2 of those on furlough have kids that need looking after.

It is seen by many as an extended holiday on 80% pay.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:38 - Jul 5 with 1403 viewsDr_Winston

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 00:13 - Jul 5 by lifelong

Only 5000 deaths?

You’ll be saying next that the UK only had about 60,000 deaths, how many of those lives do you think could have been saved if we had locked down earlier?


Depends on what you're talking about locking down.

If they'd shuttered care homes earlier they probably could have reduced it significantly. Certainly releasing untested patients back into them should never have happened. Same for advising the vulnerable to isolate.

If they'd done that then they might not have had to implement the kind of restrictions that they have on most people at all.

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:43 - Jul 5 with 1399 viewsmajorraglan

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:04 - Jul 5 by Andy1300

Some of those people clearly did, some don’t want to go back, look at teachers, then again, they are on full pay. The militant unions are a disgrace and have caused problems for this generation of school children.


The unions are there to protect the interests of their members, I would say protecting the physical well being of their members should be right up there amongst their priorities. Steps can be taken to mitigate some of the lost learning and this will come down to heads to look at, twilights etc but there will inevitably be some knock on. As we have seen on here, some teachers and lots of parents have worked tirelessly to ensure that children continue to learn, while some parents experience is far less positive. The heads at those schools who have done very little must be held to account.

Whilst children may not be overly affected by Covid and the evidence points to them not being super spreaders but that certainly isn’t conclusive and research on this is still a work in progress. Until such time I think caution and prudence should be the way forward.
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:24 - Jul 5 with 1366 viewswaynekerr55

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:04 - Jul 5 by Andy1300

Some of those people clearly did, some don’t want to go back, look at teachers, then again, they are on full pay. The militant unions are a disgrace and have caused problems for this generation of school children.


Ffs what evidence other than "SeE kNeE oRr No 10 sources" or your own experience of teachers all being at home do you have?

The answer of course is none because they have been in work. Instead of everyone turning on each other let's deal in facts.

Johnson as per usual didn't give a fùck despite advance warning
They then abandoned track and trace
This has resulted in a longer lock down period

These are facts without question. I'm not interested if Corbyn et al would have done better, the fact is they're not in and this bunch of incompetent pillocks have caused problems.

For balance, I'm not saying there aren't things that could have been done better nor saying that all teachers have pulled their weight (they havent) but much like Soho last night this mob want us to turn on each other as that is literally the only way they can absolve themselves of blame.

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:48 - Jul 5 with 1356 viewsJackSomething

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:02 - Jul 5 by Andy1300

Who would look after the kids in school holidays?


Some parents save their annual leave to cover school holidays, 1 parent works and the other takes leave, then they swap. That leave would soon run out if it has to cover more than the usual holidays.

Some children are looked after by grandparents or other family members/friends during holidays. Obviously that's more difficult to arrange currently.

There are childcare scheme run during school holidays specifically for parents who need to work through the holidays and need childcare. Those won't be running (or will be significantly reduced) for obvious reasons.

There are probably many more I haven't considered. I don't doubt there are somee people who are treating lockdown as an extended holiday from work, but there's a lot of people making assumptions about other people's circumstances. Reminds me of the threads on another contentious topic...

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 14:38 - Jul 5 with 1315 viewsbennytheblue

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:48 - Jul 5 by JackSomething

Some parents save their annual leave to cover school holidays, 1 parent works and the other takes leave, then they swap. That leave would soon run out if it has to cover more than the usual holidays.

Some children are looked after by grandparents or other family members/friends during holidays. Obviously that's more difficult to arrange currently.

There are childcare scheme run during school holidays specifically for parents who need to work through the holidays and need childcare. Those won't be running (or will be significantly reduced) for obvious reasons.

There are probably many more I haven't considered. I don't doubt there are somee people who are treating lockdown as an extended holiday from work, but there's a lot of people making assumptions about other people's circumstances. Reminds me of the threads on another contentious topic...


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/school-re-opening-wales-coronavirus
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 15:05 - Jul 5 with 1297 viewsAndy1300

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 14:38 - Jul 5 by bennytheblue

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/school-re-opening-wales-coronavirus


And he isn’t the only GP saying they should be back

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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 15:09 - Jul 5 with 1291 viewsbennytheblue

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 15:05 - Jul 5 by Andy1300

And he isn’t the only GP saying they should be back


Yep I know plenty.
Here’s another consultant

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/consultant-royal-glamorgan-schools-reo
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Is the lock down ending too soon? on 15:30 - Jul 5 with 1271 viewsexhmrc1

Is the lock down ending too soon? on 15:09 - Jul 5 by bennytheblue

Yep I know plenty.
Here’s another consultant

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/consultant-royal-glamorgan-schools-reo


The reality is that going back in September as normal is the expected position. However nobody really knows what will happen between now and then. The figures today are showing 4 new case in all of Mid, South and West Wales. 2 of these are in Swansea, 1 in Cardiff and 1 in RCT. The Swansea figure is disappointing as it went 10 days without a single case so highlights the risks.

In North Wales there were 2 cases in Angelsey, 2 with unknown address and 7 in Wrexham. The Wrexham cases should all be tested and the results known this week and then we will have a more accurate position.

In all likelyhood there will be an announcement this week that the plan will be to open schools normally in September depending on the the situation with the virus then.
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