| Is the lock down ending too soon? 04:59 - Jul 1 with 126449 views | Glyn1 |
That's basically it.
Thoughts please. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 5:00]
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:04 - Aug 7 with 1846 views | exhmrc1 |
This is very similar to the policy here in Wales. Our chief medical officer believes there is marginal benefit to wearing masks and it can be disadvantageous as people tend to take more risks and do not socially distance.
His advice has been followed by Mark Drakeford but many including the press want us to just do as they have done in England.
It very much looks like his belief is true of his counterparts elsewhere in the UK but the other governments are not following that advice.
In an interview Frank Atherton was asked why his advice differed to others and his response was medical advisers advise and politicians make policy clearly suggesting maybe his advice wasnt different to others. |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:09 - Aug 8 with 1774 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 22:04 - Aug 7 by exhmrc1 |
This is very similar to the policy here in Wales. Our chief medical officer believes there is marginal benefit to wearing masks and it can be disadvantageous as people tend to take more risks and do not socially distance.
His advice has been followed by Mark Drakeford but many including the press want us to just do as they have done in England.
It very much looks like his belief is true of his counterparts elsewhere in the UK but the other governments are not following that advice.
In an interview Frank Atherton was asked why his advice differed to others and his response was medical advisers advise and politicians make policy clearly suggesting maybe his advice wasnt different to others. |
So why do I need to wear one on a bus, train or taxi but not in a small shop? | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:19 - Aug 8 with 1767 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:14 - Aug 7 by exhmrc1 |
We might end up the same place but there again we might not. With our figures being so much lower coming out the figures might not get so high. Only time well tell. If pubs and gyms do cause major problems then maybe they shouldnt have been reopened until the virus was cleared.
From Monday we are actually further out than England. We are not having to wear masks anywhere other than shops. We can meet up to 30 people outdoors. England has shelved that for now. We are opening bowling alleys. That is on hold in England.
I am not saying we are necessarily right doing these but the fact is England rushed in to open up things and have ended up putting places in lockdown which at present we havent needed to do.
As far as quarantine we now have Spain Belgium and likely France where there has been a reversal. Is that really in the interests of those who have gone there expecting Air Bridges. Do you still think Air Bridges were such a good idea. How would you feel if you were one of those unfortunately affected having been told by the Government that you could come back without the need to quarantine. |
We don't have to wear masks in shops. Only on public transport.
You just have to look at Scotland to see how quickly the virus can rebound. They had a lower level of virus in circulation than we currently do, apart from in Wrexham, which should still be restricted. That situation may or may not happen here if it doesn't it is due to luck and not the non existant guidance from WG as to how to safely reopen.
The restrictions in Preston have stemmed from the same community as other areas of greater Manchester and Leicestershire and probably not from opening pubs.
Yes air bridges were and still are a good idea, as is closing them when needed. People and businesses have benefitted with almost certainly no additional risk. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:20 - Aug 8 with 1758 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:09 - Aug 8 by Scotia |
So why do I need to wear one on a bus, train or taxi but not in a small shop? |
Because on a bus, taxi or train you are usually on them next to somebody for longer and are generally closer. Shops you tend to be in for minutes. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:25 - Aug 8 with 1753 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:20 - Aug 8 by exhmrc1 |
Because on a bus, taxi or train you are usually on them next to somebody for longer and are generally closer. Shops you tend to be in for minutes. |
Compulsory on a social distant bus that only operates at 1/3 capacity but not in a busy shop?
I'd be on a bus for 15 minutes and I'm in town, I could be in a shop for an hour.
I could be in a taxi with just the driver separated by a plastic screen and have to wear a mask but not when I'm in a bank to get cash out to pay him.
Whoever thought this rule up is a genius. Or is being slightly different for the sake of being slightly different. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:10 - Aug 8 with 1738 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:25 - Aug 8 by Scotia |
Compulsory on a social distant bus that only operates at 1/3 capacity but not in a busy shop?
I'd be on a bus for 15 minutes and I'm in town, I could be in a shop for an hour.
I could be in a taxi with just the driver separated by a plastic screen and have to wear a mask but not when I'm in a bank to get cash out to pay him.
Whoever thought this rule up is a genius. Or is being slightly different for the sake of being slightly different. |
Buses are now getting fuller. More seats are now being used. On the buses I was on yesterday more than 1 in 2 were available. I have gone into Swansea on a bus to find someone sitting in front of me for 1/2 hour. There is also the problem for say the Swansea to Manchester train that it is moving between England and Wales. For simplicity it makes sense to have a consistent policy for the whole journey and those are the main reasons for the policy.
Most people go into shops just to pick up goods. They are rarely in a shop for any length of time and certainly not within 2 metres of someone else for long periods.
Just to look at it in more detail. At its peak in April Wales had 391 new cases in a day. Yesterday there were 17 and over the last 3 days it has averaged 15. Somebody and some policy has been responsible for this reduction. I wonder who and what.
Supermarkets and some small food shops have been open throughout this period. Other shops have been open for 6 weeks. Throughout this period where is the increase. It just shows that not using masks has not led to an increase so isnt necessary. .
As far as your previous comment regarding the Wrexham area the figures are showing that the numbers in North Wales are beginning to decline. Over the last 3 days there have been 10 new cases for 2 days in North Wales and 1 of 7. This is part of the reason for the reduction in all wales figures of 14,15 and 17.
The big problem on the horizon is whether the opening of Pubs and Gyms indoors will cause the same problem as in England. If there is a need for masks it is likely to be pubs where people are often close to each other for hours. This is the most likely area of the virus spreading and gyms similarly. It is Matt Hancock who put the spike in North West England down to pubs reopening and people not socially distancing there. If social distancing cannot be maintained then maybe then should not have reopened. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:24 - Aug 8 with 1736 views | A_Fans_Dad |
What lockdown, it has been gone for at least a month if not longer.
Meetings, protests, raves, pubs, beaches, you name it and they have ignored the lockdown. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:35 - Aug 8 with 1730 views | A_Fans_Dad |
So who to believe the South Korean Professor of Medicine who is the head of their Pandemic team who led them through 3 pandemics or the 3 in Europe who have never experienced one before?
South Korea 284 cases/million and 6 deaths/million, Denmark 2492/cases/million and 106 deaths/million.
10 times as many cases and 17 times as many deaths per million population.
I think I would go with the South Korean Professor. | | | |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:45 - Aug 8 with 1724 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:10 - Aug 8 by exhmrc1 |
Buses are now getting fuller. More seats are now being used. On the buses I was on yesterday more than 1 in 2 were available. I have gone into Swansea on a bus to find someone sitting in front of me for 1/2 hour. There is also the problem for say the Swansea to Manchester train that it is moving between England and Wales. For simplicity it makes sense to have a consistent policy for the whole journey and those are the main reasons for the policy.
Most people go into shops just to pick up goods. They are rarely in a shop for any length of time and certainly not within 2 metres of someone else for long periods.
Just to look at it in more detail. At its peak in April Wales had 391 new cases in a day. Yesterday there were 17 and over the last 3 days it has averaged 15. Somebody and some policy has been responsible for this reduction. I wonder who and what.
Supermarkets and some small food shops have been open throughout this period. Other shops have been open for 6 weeks. Throughout this period where is the increase. It just shows that not using masks has not led to an increase so isnt necessary. .
As far as your previous comment regarding the Wrexham area the figures are showing that the numbers in North Wales are beginning to decline. Over the last 3 days there have been 10 new cases for 2 days in North Wales and 1 of 7. This is part of the reason for the reduction in all wales figures of 14,15 and 17.
The big problem on the horizon is whether the opening of Pubs and Gyms indoors will cause the same problem as in England. If there is a need for masks it is likely to be pubs where people are often close to each other for hours. This is the most likely area of the virus spreading and gyms similarly. It is Matt Hancock who put the spike in North West England down to pubs reopening and people not socially distancing there. If social distancing cannot be maintained then maybe then should not have reopened. |
Most infections in North West England are in the South Asian community. Apparently due to large family gatherings indoors. Somewhere between 60 - 80% of infection is in this community, 50% of infections in Preston are in the South Asian community despite being about 10% of the population. South Asians rarely go to the pub, alcohol is Haram.
You've been told this previously. Aren't you getting fed up of being corrected?
I completely agree that a consistent policy is sensible, we should have a single approach across mainland UK.
You're making stuff up to discredit the English approach. I'm not necessarily a fan of the way things are going over the border but I haven't had to make anything up to point out failings of WG.
Its great that Wrexhams cases are falling, but the situation makes a mockery of the 5 mile rule. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:06 - Aug 8 with 1715 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:45 - Aug 8 by Scotia |
Most infections in North West England are in the South Asian community. Apparently due to large family gatherings indoors. Somewhere between 60 - 80% of infection is in this community, 50% of infections in Preston are in the South Asian community despite being about 10% of the population. South Asians rarely go to the pub, alcohol is Haram.
You've been told this previously. Aren't you getting fed up of being corrected?
I completely agree that a consistent policy is sensible, we should have a single approach across mainland UK.
You're making stuff up to discredit the English approach. I'm not necessarily a fan of the way things are going over the border but I haven't had to make anything up to point out failings of WG.
Its great that Wrexhams cases are falling, but the situation makes a mockery of the 5 mile rule. |
so do all these areas have large South Asian populations than say Cardiff. All are double the Welsh average and 4 times higher than Cardiff's, Newport's and Swansea.
Blackburn with Darwen* 89.3 (133), 83.3 (124)
Leicester* 60.2 (214), 67.8 (241)
Oldham* 54.3 (128), 23.3 (55)
Bradford* 48.0 (258), 44.5 (239)
Pendle* 42.7 (39), 27.4 (25)
Trafford* 41.0 (97), 15.2 (36)
Calderdale* 33.8 (71), 20.9 (44)
Rochdale* 31.4 (69), 50.5 (111)
Melton 31.3 (16), 7.8 (4)
Eden 30.3 (16), 35.9 (19)
Swindon 28.8 (64), 9.0 (20)
Sandwell 28.1 (92), 26.9 (88)
Hyndburn* 27.2 (22), 44.5 (36)
Manchester* 26.1 (143), 14.1 (77)
Kirklees* 23.0 (101), 26.9 (118)
Salford* 21.2 (54), 13.4 (34)
Preston 21.2 (30), 12.0 (17)
Northampton 20.4 (46), 26.2 (59)
Burnley* 20.3 (18), 14.7 (13)
Peterborough 19.9 (40), 21.9 (44)
Oxford 19.4 (30), 12.3 (19)
Oadby and Wigston 19.3 (11), 66.6 (38)
Gravesham 17.9 (19), 17.9 (19)
Sheffield 17.0 (99), 15.3 (89)
Bedford 16.9 (29), 15.7 (27)
Bury* 16.8 (32), 12.6 (24)
Stockport* 16.8 (49), 8.9 (26)
West Lancashire 16.7 (19), 6.1 (7)
Hackney and City of London 16.6 (48), 19.1 (55)
Tameside* 16.4 (37), 8.9 (20)
Wolverhampton 16.4 (43), 6.1 (16)
Luton 16.3 (35), 26.6 (57)
Bassetlaw 16.3 (19), 4.3 (5)
Ashford 16.2 (21), 17.0 (22)
Bolton* 15.8 (45), 16.8 (48)
Birmingham 13.1 (149), 13.4 (153)
Dartford 12.8 (14), 15.5 (17)
Wakefield 12.8 (44), 18.8 (65)
Carlisle 12.0 (13), 22.1 (24)
Hartlepool 11.8 (11), 8.6 (8)
Coventry 11.5 (42), 7.6 (28)
Watford 11.4 (11), 11.4 (11)
Corby 11.3 (8), 19.8 (14)
Rotherham 11.0 (29), 19.3 (51)
Nuneaton and Bedworth 10.9 (14), 10.9 (14)
High Peak 10.8 (10), 9.8 (9)
Dacorum 10.4 (16), 4.5 (7)
Liverpool 10.3 (51), 2.8 (14)
Brent 10.3 (34), 3.3 (11)
Crawley 9.8 (11), 12.5 (14)
South Lakeland 9.6 (10), 3.8 (4)
Wychavon 9.4 (12), 1.6 (2)
North Warwickshire 9.3 (6), 9.3 (6)
Reading 9.2 (15), 6.1 (10)
Thanet 9.2 (13), 14.1 (20)
Tandridge 9.1 (8), 0.0 (0)
Kettering 8.9 (9), 16.8 (17)
Braintree 8.6 (13), 17.8 (27)
Barking and Dagenham 8.5 (18), 5.2 (11)
Tendring 8.2 (12), 11.0 (16)
Hammersmith and Fulham 8.1 (15), 3.2 (6)
Folkestone and Hythe 8.0 (9), 7.1 (8)
Cannock Chase 8.0 (8), 6.0 (6)
Cambridge 8.0 (10), 3.2 (4)
Another article. They must all be wrong and you right.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-news-live-mixing-in-pubs- | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:27 - Aug 8 with 1711 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:06 - Aug 8 by exhmrc1 |
so do all these areas have large South Asian populations than say Cardiff. All are double the Welsh average and 4 times higher than Cardiff's, Newport's and Swansea.
Blackburn with Darwen* 89.3 (133), 83.3 (124)
Leicester* 60.2 (214), 67.8 (241)
Oldham* 54.3 (128), 23.3 (55)
Bradford* 48.0 (258), 44.5 (239)
Pendle* 42.7 (39), 27.4 (25)
Trafford* 41.0 (97), 15.2 (36)
Calderdale* 33.8 (71), 20.9 (44)
Rochdale* 31.4 (69), 50.5 (111)
Melton 31.3 (16), 7.8 (4)
Eden 30.3 (16), 35.9 (19)
Swindon 28.8 (64), 9.0 (20)
Sandwell 28.1 (92), 26.9 (88)
Hyndburn* 27.2 (22), 44.5 (36)
Manchester* 26.1 (143), 14.1 (77)
Kirklees* 23.0 (101), 26.9 (118)
Salford* 21.2 (54), 13.4 (34)
Preston 21.2 (30), 12.0 (17)
Northampton 20.4 (46), 26.2 (59)
Burnley* 20.3 (18), 14.7 (13)
Peterborough 19.9 (40), 21.9 (44)
Oxford 19.4 (30), 12.3 (19)
Oadby and Wigston 19.3 (11), 66.6 (38)
Gravesham 17.9 (19), 17.9 (19)
Sheffield 17.0 (99), 15.3 (89)
Bedford 16.9 (29), 15.7 (27)
Bury* 16.8 (32), 12.6 (24)
Stockport* 16.8 (49), 8.9 (26)
West Lancashire 16.7 (19), 6.1 (7)
Hackney and City of London 16.6 (48), 19.1 (55)
Tameside* 16.4 (37), 8.9 (20)
Wolverhampton 16.4 (43), 6.1 (16)
Luton 16.3 (35), 26.6 (57)
Bassetlaw 16.3 (19), 4.3 (5)
Ashford 16.2 (21), 17.0 (22)
Bolton* 15.8 (45), 16.8 (48)
Birmingham 13.1 (149), 13.4 (153)
Dartford 12.8 (14), 15.5 (17)
Wakefield 12.8 (44), 18.8 (65)
Carlisle 12.0 (13), 22.1 (24)
Hartlepool 11.8 (11), 8.6 (8)
Coventry 11.5 (42), 7.6 (28)
Watford 11.4 (11), 11.4 (11)
Corby 11.3 (8), 19.8 (14)
Rotherham 11.0 (29), 19.3 (51)
Nuneaton and Bedworth 10.9 (14), 10.9 (14)
High Peak 10.8 (10), 9.8 (9)
Dacorum 10.4 (16), 4.5 (7)
Liverpool 10.3 (51), 2.8 (14)
Brent 10.3 (34), 3.3 (11)
Crawley 9.8 (11), 12.5 (14)
South Lakeland 9.6 (10), 3.8 (4)
Wychavon 9.4 (12), 1.6 (2)
North Warwickshire 9.3 (6), 9.3 (6)
Reading 9.2 (15), 6.1 (10)
Thanet 9.2 (13), 14.1 (20)
Tandridge 9.1 (8), 0.0 (0)
Kettering 8.9 (9), 16.8 (17)
Braintree 8.6 (13), 17.8 (27)
Barking and Dagenham 8.5 (18), 5.2 (11)
Tendring 8.2 (12), 11.0 (16)
Hammersmith and Fulham 8.1 (15), 3.2 (6)
Folkestone and Hythe 8.0 (9), 7.1 (8)
Cannock Chase 8.0 (8), 6.0 (6)
Cambridge 8.0 (10), 3.2 (4)
Another article. They must all be wrong and you right.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-news-live-mixing-in-pubs- |
Take Folkestone and Hythe 94.7% White 5.3% BAME. A lower figure than Wales approximately 1/2 the rate of Swansea and a quarter of Cardiff. Wales has a 3% virus rate that would be lower without Wrexham and Swansea and Cardiff have 2. Is this down to South Asians. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:46 - Aug 8 with 1701 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:27 - Aug 8 by exhmrc1 |
Take Folkestone and Hythe 94.7% White 5.3% BAME. A lower figure than Wales approximately 1/2 the rate of Swansea and a quarter of Cardiff. Wales has a 3% virus rate that would be lower without Wrexham and Swansea and Cardiff have 2. Is this down to South Asians. |
Wales has been at the same level of lock down as England for five days. England has been at this level for nearly five weeks. What do you think will happen? Look at Scotland and Northern Ireland for a clue.
We have to live with this virus for many years - but hopefully only with the twerps in Cardiff Bay until May.
Look back at the ONS article from yesterday.
I feel like a parrot. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:04 - Aug 8 with 1698 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:46 - Aug 8 by Scotia |
Wales has been at the same level of lock down as England for five days. England has been at this level for nearly five weeks. What do you think will happen? Look at Scotland and Northern Ireland for a clue.
We have to live with this virus for many years - but hopefully only with the twerps in Cardiff Bay until May.
Look back at the ONS article from yesterday.
I feel like a parrot. |
Nobody knows how badly opening up pubs will affect Wales. That is the worrying thing and why leaving opening up pubs until the figures were low was the right decision. We didnt expect the problems in the 4 food factories but they got resolved quickly other than Wrexham.
England opened up far too early when there were large numbers of cases in the North West but Johnson decided to open there. Bit like us with North East Wales.
I went into Swansea yesterday and went to Wilko's cafe and the girls there have done a sterling job. All the tables are really well spaced and the girls were wearing shield masks. I felt totally safe or safe anywhere can be. There will be many other safe cafes and pubs but sadly that might not be everywhere and that is the area of concern.
As far as South Asians not drinking all I can say is dont believe. The ones I knew and worked with or met in Singapore certainly did. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:18 - Aug 8 with 1696 views | A_Fans_Dad |
I made this point some time ago.
There does not need to be a lockdown if the NHS were to use all the available medicines that stop, or control the symptoms of COVID-19.
The so called clinical trials were designed to fail in many cases as they tested the drugs alone, when they should be used in combinations, they used the wrong doses and at the wrong point of infection.
Many drug trials of life saving drugs in other countries are being ignored because they have not had the correct standard of clinical control, despite the fact that they are saving lives.
Literally thousands of people are dying unecessarily.
Just check the Mortality rates of emerging and 3rd world countries to see what cheap drugs are doing for them compared to Europe and the USA.
See.
https://hcqtrial.com/
And that is only one of the drug combinations. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 13:15 - Aug 8 with 1675 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 12:04 - Aug 8 by exhmrc1 |
Nobody knows how badly opening up pubs will affect Wales. That is the worrying thing and why leaving opening up pubs until the figures were low was the right decision. We didnt expect the problems in the 4 food factories but they got resolved quickly other than Wrexham.
England opened up far too early when there were large numbers of cases in the North West but Johnson decided to open there. Bit like us with North East Wales.
I went into Swansea yesterday and went to Wilko's cafe and the girls there have done a sterling job. All the tables are really well spaced and the girls were wearing shield masks. I felt totally safe or safe anywhere can be. There will be many other safe cafes and pubs but sadly that might not be everywhere and that is the area of concern.
As far as South Asians not drinking all I can say is dont believe. The ones I knew and worked with or met in Singapore certainly did. |
You're last but one paragraph is completely correct. Get that practice in legislation in Wales and we could be a benchmark that is a missed opportunity.
Not all South Asians are Muslims. The booziest wedding I've been to is a Hindu one. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:11 - Aug 11 with 1399 views | DJack |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:30 - Aug 11 with 1392 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:50 - Aug 5 by Andy1300 |
How is me looking up digital going to stop every government body in wales sending me two of everything on paper🤔
I suggested to the joking WAG that each of us could opt for English or Welsh to save money during austerity, guess what? Computer said no, pathetic really when they were complaining about not having enough money |
Tell me what our Welsh Parliament send you ?
Be very interested in that.
They send me next to nothing.
The future is emailing everything through like the banks have done. No paper statements needed. Sustainability friendly. Cheaper. Always availability. Young people expect it.
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 23:38 - Aug 11 with 1388 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:58 - Aug 5 by londonlisa2001 |
England is neither peerless nor exceptional. Neither is Wales.
The ‘English vaccine’ I referred to is not the Oxford vaccine. It’s the fact that the UK government are funding the research (in some cases), and purchase of millions of doses of, at latest count, 4 separate vaccines for the UK population. Health is devolved, so strictly, the Welsh government is responsible for vaccines for Wales. But it’s being done for the UK as a whole. Which obviously makes sense. But you’ll presumably say ‘no’ as it’s the ‘English’ sorting it out?
You seem to be mistaken on which side Wales sits in the context of the ‘British Empire’. British Empire is not an English thing, it’s British. Wales played a big part. As did Scotland. So Wales can’t divorce itself from the British Empire. It can divorce itself from England. If it does, we can only hope that there are people in an independent Wales who are not as idiotic and uninformed as you.
Wales can’t replace tourists from England with international tourists. As I showed in the figures, of the £6bn, only half a billion comes from international visitors. So that’s a big black hole. More than your water plan.
And I don’t give a toss about a Welsh born Prince of Wales. I’m a republican - I don’t believe in any Prince of Wales whenever they’re born.
You’re more right wing than this Tory party. You’re Farage on steroids. |
Wales contributes to everything Boris spends and therefore wastes.
You are no republican.
You hate change and love the status quo.
I would have you down as establishment by nature. The crachach.
If we are trading names now its all very childish and does you no credit.
However I would have you down as very Marie Antoinette, yes totally out of touch with the state of her nation.
Delyth Jewell is someone you should study, Keep an open mind and you might learn stuff.
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:01 - Aug 12 with 1284 views | exhmrc1 |
So the fact that the daily figure has come down from 391 to 8 in a day is meaningless. Nothing to do with the right policy being adopted. All to do with not having large cities and ethnic minorities. So we can assume the 1100+ who caught covid yesterday were nearly all in big cities of asian background. Cardiff is a large city 350,000 and an ethnicity rate of 20% which didnt have a single new case today. Very odd. Time to live in the real world. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:19 - Aug 12 with 1269 views | Whiterockin |
The WAG and Westminster have both made serious mistakes. 29 of the last 30 deaths in Wales have been in the north, Betsi Cadwaladr health board are a disaster and WAG have done nothing about it. IMO Anglesey should have been put into lock down and possibly some of those deaths could have been saved. |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:57 - Aug 12 with 1255 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:01 - Aug 12 by exhmrc1 |
So the fact that the daily figure has come down from 391 to 8 in a day is meaningless. Nothing to do with the right policy being adopted. All to do with not having large cities and ethnic minorities. So we can assume the 1100+ who caught covid yesterday were nearly all in big cities of asian background. Cardiff is a large city 350,000 and an ethnicity rate of 20% which didnt have a single new case today. Very odd. Time to live in the real world. |
Quite right.
I could not agree more.
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:58 - Aug 12 with 1253 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:19 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
The WAG and Westminster have both made serious mistakes. 29 of the last 30 deaths in Wales have been in the north, Betsi Cadwaladr health board are a disaster and WAG have done nothing about it. IMO Anglesey should have been put into lock down and possibly some of those deaths could have been saved. |
No such thing as WAG, just saying ... | |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 17:00 - Aug 12 with 1252 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 16:19 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
The WAG and Westminster have both made serious mistakes. 29 of the last 30 deaths in Wales have been in the north, Betsi Cadwaladr health board are a disaster and WAG have done nothing about it. IMO Anglesey should have been put into lock down and possibly some of those deaths could have been saved. |
I dont think Angelsey has been the problem probably more Wrexham. The Anglesey factory was cleared up fairly quickly whereas Wrexham has gone on and on and there has been a problem within Wrexham Maelor of it spreading through the hospital. Having said that there were also early problems in Rhondda Cynon Taff as well but the Welsh figure for deaths is considerably lower than England. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 18:36 - Aug 12 with 1237 views | Andy1300 |
It’s a fact that you are more likely to catch it in hospital or a care home, there really is no need to wear a mask or restrict people anywhere else. |  |
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