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Should wales be an independent country ? on 15:22 - Sep 10 by Catullus
You are looking at it from the wrong point of view though, a biased, anti English point of view. Westminster is the UK government, not the English government. There are many Welsh voters living in England as there are non Welsh voters living in Wales.
The Westminster government was voted in by the people of the UK and of course, we saw the Tories make massive gains in Wales last GE.
Of course when Labour first stood in GE's they would have won hardly any seats and failed dismally if not for the people of Wales. These days politics is about more than left or right!
Not at all biased? Looking at it from a logical view... Cardiff is closer to the border and it means naturally that it has more English people swaying the vote? I agree that the Tories made gains but again these gains were due to Brexit creating two sides. If you wanted leave then you voted for the Tories as Labour were unwilling to deal with it. However, now that Brexit is on the back-burner people are seeing the Tories for what they are. The only thing that can stop Welsh independence is a centralist government. This won't happen though because at the moment Britain in general is a very right wing state and due to England being the bigger country that's where the majority of the vote will continue to go!
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Should wales be an independent country ? on 17:51 - Sep 10 with 761 views
Should wales be an independent country ? on 16:02 - Sep 10 by CCFCTOM
Not at all biased? Looking at it from a logical view... Cardiff is closer to the border and it means naturally that it has more English people swaying the vote? I agree that the Tories made gains but again these gains were due to Brexit creating two sides. If you wanted leave then you voted for the Tories as Labour were unwilling to deal with it. However, now that Brexit is on the back-burner people are seeing the Tories for what they are. The only thing that can stop Welsh independence is a centralist government. This won't happen though because at the moment Britain in general is a very right wing state and due to England being the bigger country that's where the majority of the vote will continue to go!
Bore off you prìck
You might think I've forgotten, but one day, when you least expect it, my time will come.
Should wales be an independent country ? on 16:02 - Sep 10 by CCFCTOM
Not at all biased? Looking at it from a logical view... Cardiff is closer to the border and it means naturally that it has more English people swaying the vote? I agree that the Tories made gains but again these gains were due to Brexit creating two sides. If you wanted leave then you voted for the Tories as Labour were unwilling to deal with it. However, now that Brexit is on the back-burner people are seeing the Tories for what they are. The only thing that can stop Welsh independence is a centralist government. This won't happen though because at the moment Britain in general is a very right wing state and due to England being the bigger country that's where the majority of the vote will continue to go!
Britain is very middle of the road with labour SNP and Plaid very left wing.
That is why Corbyn lost the British don't like the extreme left almost communist leaning parties.
Should wales be an independent country ? on 16:02 - Sep 10 by CCFCTOM
Not at all biased? Looking at it from a logical view... Cardiff is closer to the border and it means naturally that it has more English people swaying the vote? I agree that the Tories made gains but again these gains were due to Brexit creating two sides. If you wanted leave then you voted for the Tories as Labour were unwilling to deal with it. However, now that Brexit is on the back-burner people are seeing the Tories for what they are. The only thing that can stop Welsh independence is a centralist government. This won't happen though because at the moment Britain in general is a very right wing state and due to England being the bigger country that's where the majority of the vote will continue to go!
The UK is very right wing? Then why did the non right wing parties get over 53% of the vote at the last GE?
If there are more English in Cardiff then why is Pembrokeshire called liitle England and do we see (what I'll call) pro union flags at the CCS? We do at the Liberty. It gets Kilk in a lather seeing "English" flags at home games!
Not all leave voters voted Tory either, Brexit crosses party loyalties.
Very right wing?How so. We have Police unwilling/unable to uphold basic laws and courts offering pitiful sentences seeing vicious fookers released to continue their lifestyle.
We still have carnage on our streets with uneducated,dirty,scruffy feckles kunts who pisse,shyte or gob over those who try to intervene.
We are anything but right wing
By the way,what is wrong with right wing and right with left wing and who decides what or who is so.
Should wales be an independent country ? on 09:36 - Sep 12 by Catullus
The UK is very right wing? Then why did the non right wing parties get over 53% of the vote at the last GE?
If there are more English in Cardiff then why is Pembrokeshire called liitle England and do we see (what I'll call) pro union flags at the CCS? We do at the Liberty. It gets Kilk in a lather seeing "English" flags at home games!
Not all leave voters voted Tory either, Brexit crosses party loyalties.
There must have been a huge number of Labour voters in Wales who voted to leave otherwise the Welsh would not have voted to leave.
I used to be a Welsh Nat .But I was in my early teens and it's a romantic notion borne out of being a pretty insignificant part of the UK that is refered to worldwide as "england". Always annoyed me did that.
100 years ago when we had industrial might,it could have been justified but now-never;it why the Welsh people ,as a whole,always hy away from it. Sure we have many on here espousing the notion but-we are discussing it in a language of a country that many hate- and they do.
English is the mother tongue of the vast majority of Wales,like it or not and it will remain so.We go into England and impregnate their women then move there and then pine about how great our country is.
I moved away fully 42 years ago and Im grateful I did.I love where I live. I have mixed memories of Swansea but part of it will stay in my soul until I die. We have 2 types of people in the UK-city dwellers and rural folk and we think the same -in my opinion -wherever in the uk you're from.
Just come back from Norfolk.Lovely county and people who were very welcoming. It grieves me to see much hate aimed at these people by Welsh people.
We are ,by and large ,the same.Millions of Welsh men have given their lives for this land -Great Britain which includes Wales.
Breaking up the UK would be economic disaster for Wales on a scale not seen previously. Jesus,we couldnt agree on a capital. Cardiff or Caernarfon? Talk to Gog about that.
Should wales be an independent country ? on 10:16 - Sep 12 by onehunglow
I used to be a Welsh Nat .But I was in my early teens and it's a romantic notion borne out of being a pretty insignificant part of the UK that is refered to worldwide as "england". Always annoyed me did that.
100 years ago when we had industrial might,it could have been justified but now-never;it why the Welsh people ,as a whole,always hy away from it. Sure we have many on here espousing the notion but-we are discussing it in a language of a country that many hate- and they do.
English is the mother tongue of the vast majority of Wales,like it or not and it will remain so.We go into England and impregnate their women then move there and then pine about how great our country is.
I moved away fully 42 years ago and Im grateful I did.I love where I live. I have mixed memories of Swansea but part of it will stay in my soul until I die. We have 2 types of people in the UK-city dwellers and rural folk and we think the same -in my opinion -wherever in the uk you're from.
Just come back from Norfolk.Lovely county and people who were very welcoming. It grieves me to see much hate aimed at these people by Welsh people.
We are ,by and large ,the same.Millions of Welsh men have given their lives for this land -Great Britain which includes Wales.
Breaking up the UK would be economic disaster for Wales on a scale not seen previously. Jesus,we couldnt agree on a capital. Cardiff or Caernarfon? Talk to Gog about that.
Heddwych
Cardiff was made capital because English politicians wanted it. They thought the capital was where there was more chance of revolution and wanted it closer to the border so they could march there quicker.
My choice would have been Aberystwyth. It's a major seat of learning, a University town. It's Geography means that to link the capitalup ith Wales we would have to have proper infrastructure, road and rail. Imagine motorways from Aber to Liverpool, Birmingham and to meet up with the M4 and rail links too. Wales would have been more connected than ever.
Still, it's a pipe dream.
Like you, I was a nationalist when young. If you can't be revolutionary when young and stupid, when can you be? Youth allows certain behaviours that us older folk are expected to have grown out of!
Thanks Cat.Nice riposte there. I would suggest if Wales went indy,the north would then want to break away as a Cardiff administration surely does nothing for north Wales especially in Gwynedd.
When young,kids should be socialists -then you grow up
Should wales be an independent country ? on 10:16 - Sep 12 by onehunglow
I used to be a Welsh Nat .But I was in my early teens and it's a romantic notion borne out of being a pretty insignificant part of the UK that is refered to worldwide as "england". Always annoyed me did that.
100 years ago when we had industrial might,it could have been justified but now-never;it why the Welsh people ,as a whole,always hy away from it. Sure we have many on here espousing the notion but-we are discussing it in a language of a country that many hate- and they do.
English is the mother tongue of the vast majority of Wales,like it or not and it will remain so.We go into England and impregnate their women then move there and then pine about how great our country is.
I moved away fully 42 years ago and Im grateful I did.I love where I live. I have mixed memories of Swansea but part of it will stay in my soul until I die. We have 2 types of people in the UK-city dwellers and rural folk and we think the same -in my opinion -wherever in the uk you're from.
Just come back from Norfolk.Lovely county and people who were very welcoming. It grieves me to see much hate aimed at these people by Welsh people.
We are ,by and large ,the same.Millions of Welsh men have given their lives for this land -Great Britain which includes Wales.
Breaking up the UK would be economic disaster for Wales on a scale not seen previously. Jesus,we couldnt agree on a capital. Cardiff or Caernarfon? Talk to Gog about that.
Heddwych
We are grateful you did as well ....
You are completely out of touch with our modern progressive Cymru.
You are stuck in 1975.
Beware of the Risen People
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Should wales be an independent country ? on 11:43 - Sep 12 with 644 views
Should wales be an independent country ? on 11:18 - Sep 12 by Kilkennyjack
We are grateful you did as well ....
You are completely out of touch with our modern progressive Cymru.
You are stuck in 1975.
Wales will only be independent when more than 50% of its voters want it. Even as recently as this June on 25% want independence. The other 75% know they are better off in the UK with subsidies from Westminster.
Nope,twas 76 I moved away and I ll keep this respectful.
It turned my life around and Im grateful to be here .Ok .
As regards Ireland ,we 've gone down this road before and I have no intention of ever returning to the endless Irish issue,except to say, NI is part of the UK and majority want it to remain.A democracy.
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