| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard 08:51 - Oct 25 with 3493 views | trampie |
I remember posting on an old rugby site a dozen years or so ago and on the political section 7 or 8 regulars used to challenge me on what they thought were far left views, I regarded my views as centre, centre left and their views as Tory right wing, then coinciding with an election there was an online questionnaire that would tell you what parties in 1,2,3 order best suited your views, I was impressed because I came out as I expected, at the time I think it was Plaid 1, Greens 2 and SDLP 3
So I told the others to have a go and they were all either Labour, Labour but considering voting Lib-Dem being life long Labour or no political allegiance and just like I thought in every single case they came out as a mix of Conservatives, UKIP and Ulster unionists, they were Tories who thought they were Labour and I see that today on sites like this but now they are more likely to realise and admit they are Tories.
Socialist policies in years gone by leading to people going to universities and living longer combined with having mortgages has resulted in people becoming more Tory, there doesn't seem to be an end in sight if the UK remains as it is, but if it breaks up then Scotland and Wales might well get away from perpetual Tory rule. [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 9:53]
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:15 - Oct 25 with 740 views | trampie |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:03 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
Nope, it's a bloated, corrupt organisation hell bent on expansion and remakingthe world in it's image. I firmly believe it will cause more problems (in the future) than it claims to have prevented. Maybe even a war. Unless it collapses first.
It can't stick to it's own rules (but has a go at others for that) which eneded up with Germany, of all people, disobeying.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/20/german-constitutional-court-struck-blow-to-e
It hasn't had it accounts approved for 20 years and more, it hides expenses and wasteds billions. It is no better than any UK government and just another expensive layer of politicians which bleeds money from where it should be spent, schools, healthcare and police. |
How can you claim to want a World Government when you won't even share some governance with Europeans ? | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:22 - Oct 25 with 735 views | trampie |
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-7.38&soc=-1.33
The test has changed over time, I've done it 3 or 4 times previously over the years and always from memory come out 2 or 3 squares left of centre and 2 or 3 squares down, this time there seems to be more religious, sex attitude type questions as opposed to do you support tax rises etc.
Also I think it needs a neither agree nor disagree option as I had to pick one on a whim on a few occasions. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:34 - Oct 25 with 727 views | builthjack |
Anybody, and I mean anybody, would be better than these incompetent, lying, indecisive, absolute idiots, in government now. Never have we had such a useless lot. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:41 - Oct 25 with 718 views | Catullus |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:15 - Oct 25 by trampie |
How can you claim to want a World Government when you won't even share some governance with Europeans ? |
If the EU would reform, would be more open, more accountable then things would be different.
There are plenty of things I like but that I would get rid of if not fit for purpose. The idea of the EU is fine but it has to be better and crucially, I firmly believe we have way more politicians than we need which is just a waste of money.
We have had the EU, Westminster and the devolved governments, how many expensive politiians can the UK pay for? We have now left the EU but the UK still has far too many expensive politicians. |  |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:41 - Oct 25 with 716 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Most politicians have never done anything else, they have no business, engineering, financial or scientific acumen at all.
Or common sense.
They just do politics and the country suffers for it. | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:48 - Oct 25 with 701 views | controversial_jack |
Brexiters have no long term plan outside of their immediate aim. that goes with most right wing parties too. | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:12 - Oct 25 with 688 views | Catullus |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:48 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack |
Brexiters have no long term plan outside of their immediate aim. that goes with most right wing parties too. |
Sorry but that's a nonsense, another throw away comment, a massive generalisation. It also ignores that many leave voters are not right wing, or do you believe all those Welsh voters are Tories? | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:30 - Oct 25 with 684 views | controversial_jack |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:12 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
Sorry but that's a nonsense, another throw away comment, a massive generalisation. It also ignores that many leave voters are not right wing, or do you believe all those Welsh voters are Tories? |
It's not nonsense. No Brexiters know what know what we need to do next. It's the same with the Trumpsters, make America great again, build a wall, and ? It's hardly a political philosophy for the future | | | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:49 - Oct 25 with 673 views | ItchySphincter |
I’d put you centre right/right, definitely not liberal. |  |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:50 - Oct 25 with 672 views | Catullus |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:30 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack |
It's not nonsense. No Brexiters know what know what we need to do next. It's the same with the Trumpsters, make America great again, build a wall, and ? It's hardly a political philosophy for the future |
So are all leave voters tories?
What we do next has been covered many times on here. We need to forge trade deals, we need to invest in the Uk itself with infrastruture improvements. I think we need to reform our own government, doing away with HoL and having an elected second chamber.
Go on, ask a specific question because saying "know what we need to do next" is a bit general. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 13:01 - Oct 25 with 670 views | ItchySphincter |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 09:59 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
If by the mat you mean a political party then no. I'll vote for the person I think best at the time , or indeed I might spoil my ballot as a protest if they are all rubbish.
I said that about Bojo and Corbyn, who can you vote for when you think them both a disaster?
My colours in terms of political beliefs are very firmly nailed to the mast they just don't match your expectations of what the mast is! |
You make a good point. It is assumed on here that you are a liberal lefty if you haven’t bought a ticket to the Bojo the Clown Circus. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 13:31 - Oct 25 with 657 views | onehunglow |
Valleys surely Labour for Life but the highest leave rate.Odd aint it
Anti EU and Labour -a la Benn and Corbyn | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 13:35 - Oct 25 with 656 views | controversial_jack |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:50 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
So are all leave voters tories?
What we do next has been covered many times on here. We need to forge trade deals, we need to invest in the Uk itself with infrastruture improvements. I think we need to reform our own government, doing away with HoL and having an elected second chamber.
Go on, ask a specific question because saying "know what we need to do next" is a bit general. |
They haven't thought that far forward. Do they want a deal or no deal?
The other things you mentioned are not part of any Brexit manifesto, if indeed they had one. | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 14:02 - Oct 25 with 643 views | ItchySphincter |
I came out just to the right of Caroline Lucas BTW. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 14:08 - Oct 25 with 626 views | trampie |
Does anyone not come out as being in the bottom left quarter, I bet somebody will try to to say they are different and try and do it but I haven't seen it, lol. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 14:23 - Oct 25 with 622 views | hobo |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 10:03 - Oct 25 by trampie |
Virtually every individual I have seen on that particular site comes out in the bottom left hand quarter.
I'm talking about a site that would match you to the actual policies of UK parties (at the time) and whoever they were they had it smack on. |
Agreed, those questions are worded awfully |  | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 15:56 - Oct 25 with 586 views | trampie |
Virtually the same as me, economically the same and socially just the other side of the arbitrary dividing line.
Yet you read book after book to come to the same conclusions as me, why don't you just ask me and save yourself time and money, I will tell what's what for free Lohengrin. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 16:01 - Oct 25 with 578 views | trampie |
Didn't ECB used to say that me and you politically were very alike ? | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 21:44 - Oct 25 with 551 views | Catullus |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 13:35 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack |
They haven't thought that far forward. Do they want a deal or no deal?
The other things you mentioned are not part of any Brexit manifesto, if indeed they had one. |
Trying to sort a deal is what's happening now btw. What's next, what's after that, that's were I am.
I very much hoped for a deal while accepting that we had to be prepared to say no, to walk away because brinksmanship has always been part of the EU negotiating strategy. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 10:19 - Oct 26 with 513 views | onehunglow |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:34 - Oct 25 by builthjack |
Anybody, and I mean anybody, would be better than these incompetent, lying, indecisive, absolute idiots, in government now. Never have we had such a useless lot. |
Oh I dunno,late 70s under Sunny Jim were grim. Grim enough to see Thatcher win in a landslide and win 2 further elections. Not all the country thought she was a callous bitch;to many she was a heroine the likes of which we need today,especially as regards EU .
Thatcher would enforce brexit by now which is what the majority in former morning areas wanted;an inescapable fact which shows just how bizarre politics is in this land and the folly of aligning to just one party for all your life. | |
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| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:39 - Oct 26 with 499 views | controversial_jack |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 10:19 - Oct 26 by onehunglow |
Oh I dunno,late 70s under Sunny Jim were grim. Grim enough to see Thatcher win in a landslide and win 2 further elections. Not all the country thought she was a callous bitch;to many she was a heroine the likes of which we need today,especially as regards EU .
Thatcher would enforce brexit by now which is what the majority in former morning areas wanted;an inescapable fact which shows just how bizarre politics is in this land and the folly of aligning to just one party for all your life. |
The 80s under Thatcher were worse than the 70s. 1978 was the year when the gap between rich and poor was at it's narowest ever | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:49 - Oct 26 with 498 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 12:30 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack |
It's not nonsense. No Brexiters know what know what we need to do next. It's the same with the Trumpsters, make America great again, build a wall, and ? It's hardly a political philosophy for the future |
What would come after making America Great Again, just running a very prosperous country that looks after it's own people, industry and workers.
I could live with that for the UK. | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 14:10 - Oct 26 with 473 views | controversial_jack |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:49 - Oct 26 by A_Fans_Dad |
What would come after making America Great Again, just running a very prosperous country that looks after it's own people, industry and workers.
I could live with that for the UK. |
Isolationism, and then what? | | | |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 14:13 - Oct 26 with 468 views | onehunglow |
| Right wingers coming out of the cupboard on 11:39 - Oct 26 by controversial_jack |
The 80s under Thatcher were worse than the 70s. 1978 was the year when the gap between rich and poor was at it's narowest ever |
Really. What was it then that saw the people vote for Thatcher en masse,apart form Wales ,of course. Do you not remember our car industry killing itself.?
24% inflation and a country destroying itself [Post edited 26 Oct 2020 14:16]
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