At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. 12:02 - Nov 28 with 2173 views | A_Fans_Dad | It is only about 10 months too late, but as they say better late than never. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995165/Three-million-care-home-residen Of course no mention or advice that BAME or Overweight people should also be taking it along with everyone over 30. It is not expensive, so most people should be able to afford it at about £16 a year. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 12:08]
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 13:09 - Nov 28 with 1554 views | onehunglow | I take it regularly.The only supplement worth it,apart from ginger root,which is good for digestion | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 13:15 - Nov 28 with 1549 views | felixstowe_jack | Vitamin D is well know as vital to help the body absorb calcium correctly to strengthen the bones. [Post edited 29 Nov 2020 9:23]
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 13:22 - Nov 28 with 1539 views | JACKMANANDBOY | Yes this is a no brainer and should have been done earlier, part of the problem is there is no immunologist on Sage it's unbelievable. [Post edited 28 Nov 2020 13:22]
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 09:37 - Nov 29 with 1449 views | controversial_jack | Have you been to the Donald Trump school of medicine? | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:06 - Nov 29 with 1444 views | onehunglow |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 09:37 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | Have you been to the Donald Trump school of medicine? |
Well you can’t blame the Police for this ,or can you | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:27 - Nov 29 with 1436 views | controversial_jack |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:06 - Nov 29 by onehunglow | Well you can’t blame the Police for this ,or can you |
No, it's not their fault | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:36 - Nov 29 with 1424 views | Highjack | I see what you did with that thread title. | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:50 - Nov 29 with 1419 views | onehunglow |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:27 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | No, it's not their fault |
I will frame that | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:05 - Nov 29 with 1414 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 10:36 - Nov 29 by Highjack | I see what you did with that thread title. |
UVB light. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:11 - Nov 29 with 1410 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 09:37 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | Have you been to the Donald Trump school of medicine? |
You really do need to keep up. Vitamin D has been known to decrease risks of desease and Respiratory ilnesses like the Flu since 2006 & 2008. There have been many study to show that it improves "outcomes" for COVID19 and could even cut the risk of dying from Cancer by 13% according to latest research. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7100891/Daily-vitamin-D-pill-cut-risk-d | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:43 - Nov 29 with 1400 views | controversial_jack |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:11 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad | You really do need to keep up. Vitamin D has been known to decrease risks of desease and Respiratory ilnesses like the Flu since 2006 & 2008. There have been many study to show that it improves "outcomes" for COVID19 and could even cut the risk of dying from Cancer by 13% according to latest research. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7100891/Daily-vitamin-D-pill-cut-risk-d |
Vitamin D , like others is important for a healthy body, but it won't help against disease or infection | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:58 - Nov 29 with 1396 views | Boundy |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:43 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | Vitamin D , like others is important for a healthy body, but it won't help against disease or infection |
Nothing will, will it ? | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 12:04 - Nov 29 with 1389 views | Highjack |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:43 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | Vitamin D , like others is important for a healthy body, but it won't help against disease or infection |
A healthy body gives you a better chance in general of surviving a disease or infection. That’s the point. | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 12:06 - Nov 29 with 1392 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 11:43 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | Vitamin D , like others is important for a healthy body, but it won't help against disease or infection |
Why are you continuing to argue from ignorance? The Medical profession, by Clinical studies, has proved without any doubt that Vitamin D helps reduce the likelyhood of catching the Flu & COVID19 and helps the body reduce the severity of it if you get it? What is your evidence for disagreeing with them? | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 14:12 - Nov 29 with 1378 views | controversial_jack |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 12:06 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad | Why are you continuing to argue from ignorance? The Medical profession, by Clinical studies, has proved without any doubt that Vitamin D helps reduce the likelyhood of catching the Flu & COVID19 and helps the body reduce the severity of it if you get it? What is your evidence for disagreeing with them? |
https://hellotricity.in/myths-about-vitamin-d/ | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 15:02 - Nov 29 with 1359 views | A_Fans_Dad |
You post a link to a report that quotes a Brazillian study that says Vitamin D is ineffective in improving hospital length of stay or any other clinical outcomes among hospitalised patients with severe Covid-19. See the word "Severe", ie they already have SEVERE COVID-19 before they give them Vitamin D, which is way too late. The notes at the end of the study are quite telling. Vitamin D has been postulated to play an important role on immune system, acting as a regulator of both innate and adaptative responses. Observational studies have shown that 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are associated with better clinical outcomes in respiratory diseases. Positive associations between low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels and poor prognosis among patients with COVID-19 have also been observed. Furthermore, as mall-scale, non-randomized trial demonstrated that the administration of regular boluses of vitamin D3 before the infection was associated with better survival and less severe disease among older, frail patients with COVID-19. In the current trial, however, a single dose of 200,000 IU of vitamin D3 supplementation failed to promote any clinically relevant effects among hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19, contesting the utility of supplementary vitamin D3 as a treatment in this disease. So instead of using the tried and tested method of small doses they went for one massive dose. This sounds like the other Brazilian study for HCQ where they gave dangerous levels of HCQ, 6 times higher than the recommended maximum and then declared that HCQ has dangerous side effects. It would appear that the Brazillian mecics consider Bigger is better, even when it isn't. Why not try a Medical Journal, this was back in 2017. https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583 "Conclusions Vitamin D supplementation was safe and it protected against acute respiratory tract infection overall. Patients who were very vitamin D deficient and those not receiving bolus doses experienced the most benefit." Everybody except outdoor workers is Vitamin D deficient during the Winter, especially the old and infirm who are stuck indoors, BAME people and Obese people. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 15:27 - Nov 29 with 1348 views | controversial_jack |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 15:02 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad | You post a link to a report that quotes a Brazillian study that says Vitamin D is ineffective in improving hospital length of stay or any other clinical outcomes among hospitalised patients with severe Covid-19. See the word "Severe", ie they already have SEVERE COVID-19 before they give them Vitamin D, which is way too late. The notes at the end of the study are quite telling. Vitamin D has been postulated to play an important role on immune system, acting as a regulator of both innate and adaptative responses. Observational studies have shown that 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are associated with better clinical outcomes in respiratory diseases. Positive associations between low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels and poor prognosis among patients with COVID-19 have also been observed. Furthermore, as mall-scale, non-randomized trial demonstrated that the administration of regular boluses of vitamin D3 before the infection was associated with better survival and less severe disease among older, frail patients with COVID-19. In the current trial, however, a single dose of 200,000 IU of vitamin D3 supplementation failed to promote any clinically relevant effects among hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19, contesting the utility of supplementary vitamin D3 as a treatment in this disease. So instead of using the tried and tested method of small doses they went for one massive dose. This sounds like the other Brazilian study for HCQ where they gave dangerous levels of HCQ, 6 times higher than the recommended maximum and then declared that HCQ has dangerous side effects. It would appear that the Brazillian mecics consider Bigger is better, even when it isn't. Why not try a Medical Journal, this was back in 2017. https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583 "Conclusions Vitamin D supplementation was safe and it protected against acute respiratory tract infection overall. Patients who were very vitamin D deficient and those not receiving bolus doses experienced the most benefit." Everybody except outdoor workers is Vitamin D deficient during the Winter, especially the old and infirm who are stuck indoors, BAME people and Obese people. |
However, a team of researchers at the University of São Paulo in Brazil found that vitamin D3 supplementation is ineffective in improving hospital length of stay or any other clinical outcomes among hospitalised patients with severe Covid-19. Can't be any clearer than that | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 15:45 - Nov 29 with 1345 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 15:27 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | However, a team of researchers at the University of São Paulo in Brazil found that vitamin D3 supplementation is ineffective in improving hospital length of stay or any other clinical outcomes among hospitalised patients with severe Covid-19. Can't be any clearer than that |
They also reported that closing a stable door was ineffective in controlling a bolted horse............meanwhile those studying the stable concluded maintaining the lock on the stable in good order would help keep the stable door. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3166406/ | |
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At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 16:37 - Nov 29 with 1328 views | controversial_jack |
It's just a supplement , it's not a cure.End of! | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 17:32 - Nov 29 with 1313 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 16:37 - Nov 29 by controversial_jack | It's just a supplement , it's not a cure.End of! |
I suggest that you look up the word prophylaxis, nobody has ever said it is a cure, I don't know what gave you that idea. You can write "end of" and it means nothing, other than you have a closed mind. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 20:54 - Nov 29 with 1260 views | Scotia | I wouldn't advise people going out and taking stacks of vitamin D without consulting a Dr. My father has tried it since October, on top of eating loads of Sardines, and it seems to have given him tinnitus. It's really unpleasant and the link seems pretty clear in his case. I did some research and it can accelerate the progression of aortic stenosis, a narrowing of the aortic heart valve. Many people won't have any idea they have this until it is almost too late. A quality multi vitamin and maybe some cod liver oil will do. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 21:36 - Nov 29 with 1247 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 20:54 - Nov 29 by Scotia | I wouldn't advise people going out and taking stacks of vitamin D without consulting a Dr. My father has tried it since October, on top of eating loads of Sardines, and it seems to have given him tinnitus. It's really unpleasant and the link seems pretty clear in his case. I did some research and it can accelerate the progression of aortic stenosis, a narrowing of the aortic heart valve. Many people won't have any idea they have this until it is almost too late. A quality multi vitamin and maybe some cod liver oil will do. |
How about just taking the recommended dose on the container? But if you really want know what you should be taking, get a blood test. If you can get to actually see your doctor that is. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 21:46 - Nov 29 with 1237 views | Scotia |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 21:36 - Nov 29 by A_Fans_Dad | How about just taking the recommended dose on the container? But if you really want know what you should be taking, get a blood test. If you can get to actually see your doctor that is. |
Because the recommended dose is often way in excess of what the body actually needs. It is a supplement not a medicine. Vitamin d is difficult to get from your diet but advocating people to take it without any further consideration is dangerous. | | | |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 21:50 - Nov 29 with 1236 views | A_Fans_Dad |
At last the Government sees the light on Vitamin D. on 21:46 - Nov 29 by Scotia | Because the recommended dose is often way in excess of what the body actually needs. It is a supplement not a medicine. Vitamin d is difficult to get from your diet but advocating people to take it without any further consideration is dangerous. |
The people making and selling the drugs are advising people to take dangerous doses. Yes of course they do. You actually think that they would all leave themselves open to law suits? Boy you sure do come out with some bull, so provide the proof or admit you just made that up. | | | |
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