| Colchester fans now 21:08 - Dec 7 with 4843 views | NotLoyal |
Being told if they boo the knee gesture they wont be welcome at the ground.
I wonder if we are not too far away from ejections from the ground for booing? |  |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:25 - Dec 8 with 342 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:19 - Dec 8 by Chief |
Its a complete conflation.
Players taking the knee = protest against racism.
Take your tin foil hat off and support the players. |
It gets funnier and funnier. Goes from a 'tenuous' link to 'complete conflation', despite proof to the contrary.
You can't shake off the political connotations from this gesture.
I honestly think you're on a wind up. |  | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:26 - Dec 8 with 336 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Colchester fans now on 09:25 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
It gets funnier and funnier. Goes from a 'tenuous' link to 'complete conflation', despite proof to the contrary.
You can't shake off the political connotations from this gesture.
I honestly think you're on a wind up. |
He has to be. Surely to God. |  |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:29 - Dec 8 with 333 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:22 - Dec 8 by Chief |
Yea it does. Shows I'm prepared to back the players and not some mythical political rampage. |
Mythical? Complete conflation?
I don't even need to make ripostes anymore. You're doing a stellar job of showing what an ignoramus you are.
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| Colchester fans now on 09:30 - Dec 8 with 330 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:25 - Dec 8 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don't understand what you mean by conflating BLM with Marxism? They are openly Marxists. That isn't a tenuous link, their list of aims was to destroy capitalism and their founders have said they are trained Marxists. You do realise communism has killed millions and millions right?
So surely you agree now you realise the extremist political movement behind BLM then we should instead focus on the anti-racism message and move away from it? Whether you believe its political to you doesn't matter, it is to an awful lot of people - quite justifiably so.
So surely unity and the message is what is important right? [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 9:26]
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The act our players going to the knee before kick off os what is being conflated as being some political stance because of a tenuous link to some political mantra that isn't being exercised. Yes, millions, same as racism.
The non racism message is exactly the message i am focusing on as are our players. Booing the players is awful to a lot of people. Ridiculous course of action.
Correct, so respect the players wanting to do this act. |  |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:34 - Dec 8 with 322 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Colchester fans now on 09:30 - Dec 8 by Chief |
The act our players going to the knee before kick off os what is being conflated as being some political stance because of a tenuous link to some political mantra that isn't being exercised. Yes, millions, same as racism.
The non racism message is exactly the message i am focusing on as are our players. Booing the players is awful to a lot of people. Ridiculous course of action.
Correct, so respect the players wanting to do this act. |
It's not conflated though is it. BLM are self confessed Marxists.
The focus is not on the message, its on the politics, hence this very discussion. So reckon it's a good idea to get rid of the gesture that is so divisive in place of another? | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:35 - Dec 8 with 317 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:30 - Dec 8 by Chief |
The act our players going to the knee before kick off os what is being conflated as being some political stance because of a tenuous link to some political mantra that isn't being exercised. Yes, millions, same as racism.
The non racism message is exactly the message i am focusing on as are our players. Booing the players is awful to a lot of people. Ridiculous course of action.
Correct, so respect the players wanting to do this act. |
If taking the knee is so pure and devoid of any political links, then why have Millwall decided not to take the knee for their next match?
Can you perhaps realise why? Booing never killed anyone. | | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:37 - Dec 8 with 313 views | Andy1300 |
| Colchester fans now on 08:19 - Dec 8 by Badlands |
There we are then  |
Feel free to expand on your pathetic response |  |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:37 - Dec 8 with 310 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:35 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
If taking the knee is so pure and devoid of any political links, then why have Millwall decided not to take the knee for their next match?
Can you perhaps realise why? Booing never killed anyone. |
Probably because they don't want their players being booed by their own racist fans probably! | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:39 - Dec 8 with 306 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:37 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
I don't disrespect our players for taking the knee. I haven't booed, nor will I.
But I realise that they are in an invidious situation. Try and understand why. |
Well we have no quarrel then.
My main concern was booing our own players just before kick off. | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:41 - Dec 8 with 295 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:37 - Dec 8 by Chief |
Probably because they don't want their players being booed by their own racist fans probably! |
Complete cop out. If players were had true conviction to this gesture they would continue taking the knee in the face of adversity. After all, isn't it just a tiny, racist minority who oppose it?
The result is a new gesture, linking arms. This, as it's apolitical, I have no qualms with. So does this still make me a racist? That I would fully support an anti-racism gesture that isn't, tenuously or otherwise, linked to an extreme organisation? | | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:42 - Dec 8 with 294 views | Andy1300 |
| Colchester fans now on 09:37 - Dec 8 by Chief |
Probably because they don't want their players being booed by their own racist fans probably! |
So they must be snowflakes then.
Sticks and stones etc | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:42 - Dec 8 with 293 views | 9MilesHigh |
Every single post on this thread is just a repeat of at least two other threads.
Just in a different order
Aren't you boring yourselves even?
We get it -
Marxists
Keep politics out of football
Kick it out campaign is better
Bore the F off is it? |  | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:44 - Dec 8 with 287 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Colchester fans now on 09:42 - Dec 8 by 9MilesHigh |
Every single post on this thread is just a repeat of at least two other threads.
Just in a different order
Aren't you boring yourselves even?
We get it -
Marxists
Keep politics out of football
Kick it out campaign is better
Bore the F off is it? |
Some don't get it though, clearly.
...which is why they are asking. | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:45 - Dec 8 with 284 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:42 - Dec 8 by Andy1300 |
So they must be snowflakes then.
Sticks and stones etc |
Who? The players? | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:46 - Dec 8 with 281 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:39 - Dec 8 by Chief |
Well we have no quarrel then.
My main concern was booing our own players just before kick off. |
I would never boo the players. It's counter-productive and will be misconstrued even if I wanted to, which I truly don't.
I enjoy football for many reasons, one of which is the real mix of players. When Celina played for us, I read up on Serbia and Kosovo, for example. Doesn't mean I'm virtuous, but I certainly embrace the diversity. It's interesting!
Don't get it mixed. | | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:50 - Dec 8 with 271 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:42 - Dec 8 by 9MilesHigh |
Every single post on this thread is just a repeat of at least two other threads.
Just in a different order
Aren't you boring yourselves even?
We get it -
Marxists
Keep politics out of football
Kick it out campaign is better
Bore the F off is it? |
Without different people repeatedly asking the same questions, we'd have no need. Dr P and myself haven't changed our tune since June.
It's important anyway. I understand that Chief has removed the kneeling gesture from its roots. And that makes sense in a social vacuum. And I hope he has gained something from this. Dialogue is important. Even if it feels circular, it isn't when new people ask the same questions.
If you're so adverse to this kind of debate, which is football-related, by the way, then keep it quiet perhaps. [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 9:51]
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| Colchester fans now on 09:50 - Dec 8 with 271 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:41 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
Complete cop out. If players were had true conviction to this gesture they would continue taking the knee in the face of adversity. After all, isn't it just a tiny, racist minority who oppose it?
The result is a new gesture, linking arms. This, as it's apolitical, I have no qualms with. So does this still make me a racist? That I would fully support an anti-racism gesture that isn't, tenuously or otherwise, linked to an extreme organisation? |
This also proves that to the players this wasnt political at all. Because they are prepared to try something else that still conveys their anti racism stance.
We'll see if they boo at their next game won't we.
Well you say you wouldn't boo or oppose anyway, so no ones called you a racist. | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:54 - Dec 8 with 256 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:50 - Dec 8 by Chief |
This also proves that to the players this wasnt political at all. Because they are prepared to try something else that still conveys their anti racism stance.
We'll see if they boo at their next game won't we.
Well you say you wouldn't boo or oppose anyway, so no ones called you a racist. |
I'd argue that the alacrity in which the kneeling has been dropped, perhaps suggests that players and clubs realise the political issue behind it. Let's leave it there.
Yes, it will be interesting. I truly hope they don't boo. Linking arms is symbolically pleasing in my opinion.
As long as you realise I'm no racist, I'll retract that jest about you being a communist.
Can we at least agree that if every club now linked arms instead, it would be better? [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 9:55]
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| Colchester fans now on 09:55 - Dec 8 with 254 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Colchester fans now on 09:44 - Dec 8 by Dr_Parnassus |
Some don't get it though, clearly.
...which is why they are asking. |
No mate, they do, we do.
Really, try and obsess somewhere else.
how's the weather there, you fit and well now after your bump, good day in work, did you shut down many accounts, how's your Mrs, ready for Christmas, you coming home for it, are you even allowed? | | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:55 - Dec 8 with 252 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Colchester fans now on 09:50 - Dec 8 by Chief |
This also proves that to the players this wasnt political at all. Because they are prepared to try something else that still conveys their anti racism stance.
We'll see if they boo at their next game won't we.
Well you say you wouldn't boo or oppose anyway, so no ones called you a racist. |
Nobody has said that they think the players are doing it for political reasons. What is being said is that in doing the gesture, they are inadvertently furthering the reach and aims of an extremist group with vile (strong) links to a whole host of unsavory things. People don't like it. So adapt it if the racial bit and not the politics is the driving factor. Easy. | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:57 - Dec 8 with 249 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Colchester fans now on 09:50 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
Without different people repeatedly asking the same questions, we'd have no need. Dr P and myself haven't changed our tune since June.
It's important anyway. I understand that Chief has removed the kneeling gesture from its roots. And that makes sense in a social vacuum. And I hope he has gained something from this. Dialogue is important. Even if it feels circular, it isn't when new people ask the same questions.
If you're so adverse to this kind of debate, which is football-related, by the way, then keep it quiet perhaps. [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 9:51]
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You new around here? | | | |
| Colchester fans now on 09:57 - Dec 8 with 248 views | Chief |
| Colchester fans now on 09:54 - Dec 8 by Glossolalia |
I'd argue that the alacrity in which the kneeling has been dropped, perhaps suggests that players and clubs realise the political issue behind it. Let's leave it there.
Yes, it will be interesting. I truly hope they don't boo. Linking arms is symbolically pleasing in my opinion.
As long as you realise I'm no racist, I'll retract that jest about you being a communist.
Can we at least agree that if every club now linked arms instead, it would be better? [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 9:55]
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Well Colchester are standing by the gesture.
Yea I don't really care what the gesture is within the reason (not an ayatollah or something). If the players wish to do this other gesture id fully support that too. | |
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| Colchester fans now on 09:58 - Dec 8 with 247 views | Glossolalia |
| Colchester fans now on 09:57 - Dec 8 by 9MilesHigh |
You new around here? |
No. | | | |
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