| Begum 10:02 - Feb 26 with 7732 views | onehunglow |
Appeal dismissed then.
Great decision.
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| Begum on 13:38 - Feb 27 with 816 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 11:16 - Feb 27 by trampie |
Do you know if she killed people or planned to kill people ? |
She took part in no terrorist acts and wasn't even a member, she just married a guy who wast. Even out govt know and acknowledge this. Why she is being singled out when 400 fighters have already returned and been vetted by the security services is some political matter which we aren't to know | | | |
| Begum on 13:56 - Feb 27 with 787 views | trampie |
| Begum on 13:38 - Feb 27 by controversial_jack |
She took part in no terrorist acts and wasn't even a member, she just married a guy who wast. Even out govt know and acknowledge this. Why she is being singled out when 400 fighters have already returned and been vetted by the security services is some political matter which we aren't to know |
Were MI5 watching her and her friends ?
Were the girls being encouraged to go out into the community to see if they could join up with Isis and those doing the encouraging could then find out Isis members/sympathises over here.
There is something strange about why the UK authorities want to wash their hands of this young girl/young woman.
PS They don't want her in open court, it's very fishy. [Post edited 27 Feb 2021 13:57]
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| Begum on 14:17 - Feb 27 with 763 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 13:56 - Feb 27 by trampie |
Were MI5 watching her and her friends ?
Were the girls being encouraged to go out into the community to see if they could join up with Isis and those doing the encouraging could then find out Isis members/sympathises over here.
There is something strange about why the UK authorities want to wash their hands of this young girl/young woman.
PS They don't want her in open court, it's very fishy. [Post edited 27 Feb 2021 13:57]
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No they don't, it will come out that she was groomed and radicalised as a child in this very country | | | |
| Begum on 14:37 - Feb 27 with 749 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 13:38 - Feb 27 by controversial_jack |
She took part in no terrorist acts and wasn't even a member, she just married a guy who wast. Even out govt know and acknowledge this. Why she is being singled out when 400 fighters have already returned and been vetted by the security services is some political matter which we aren't to know |
yeah she "just" FFS | |
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| Begum on 14:40 - Feb 27 with 744 views | trampie |
| Begum on 14:17 - Feb 27 by controversial_jack |
No they don't, it will come out that she was groomed and radicalised as a child in this very country |
Somebody from their school went to Syria before them, our secret service would have been watching the pupils, teachers, comings and goings to see what was going on (you would expect that to be the case), if there was any grooming/radicalising going on etc, they would want the investigation to try and catch as many ring leaders as possible, if our secret services had used children for the greater good and save lives as they might see it, it would then be very awkward if it came out in open court. [Post edited 27 Feb 2021 14:42]
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| Begum on 15:13 - Feb 27 with 710 views | KeithHaynes |
| Begum on 14:40 - Feb 27 by trampie |
Somebody from their school went to Syria before them, our secret service would have been watching the pupils, teachers, comings and goings to see what was going on (you would expect that to be the case), if there was any grooming/radicalising going on etc, they would want the investigation to try and catch as many ring leaders as possible, if our secret services had used children for the greater good and save lives as they might see it, it would then be very awkward if it came out in open court. [Post edited 27 Feb 2021 14:42]
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I would imagine they probably were watching, here’s a thing, how about they knew she was going ? |  |
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| Begum on 15:35 - Feb 27 with 700 views | trampie |
| Begum on 15:13 - Feb 27 by KeithHaynes |
I would imagine they probably were watching, here’s a thing, how about they knew she was going ? |
Indeed you never know. | |
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| Begum on 17:07 - Feb 27 with 674 views | DJack |
| Begum on 12:49 - Feb 27 by londonlisa2001 |
It hasn’t been ‘answered’ as she is appealing the decision.
The case this week was not the answer to that question (the Home Secretary at the time stripped her of citizenship and she has the right to appeal). The question this week was simply whether she can return to the UK to appeal the decision, or whether she has to do it from where she is (some refugee camp). The Supreme Court have reiterated she can appeal against the stripping of citizenship (so the question remains open) but have said that she can’t come here while that happens.
The decision that someone has to fight a legal appeal from some camp without lawyers is removing basic rights to a fair trial. It’s ridiculous. |
"The Supreme Court have reiterated she can appeal against the stripping of citizenship (so the question remains open) but have said that she can’t come here while that happens.
The decision that someone has to fight a legal appeal from some camp without lawyers is removing basic rights to a fair trial. It’s ridiculous."
The majority on here bang on when the courts makes odd decisions that appear to be contra to UK law (when dealing with topics that trigger them) so I find their view on this woman rather odd.
Personally, my view is that she should be banged up but the right to a fair trial is paramount and therefore she should have her day in the courts. |  |
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| Begum on 20:32 - Feb 27 with 641 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Begum on 12:49 - Feb 27 by londonlisa2001 |
It hasn’t been ‘answered’ as she is appealing the decision.
The case this week was not the answer to that question (the Home Secretary at the time stripped her of citizenship and she has the right to appeal). The question this week was simply whether she can return to the UK to appeal the decision, or whether she has to do it from where she is (some refugee camp). The Supreme Court have reiterated she can appeal against the stripping of citizenship (so the question remains open) but have said that she can’t come here while that happens.
The decision that someone has to fight a legal appeal from some camp without lawyers is removing basic rights to a fair trial. It’s ridiculous. |
Of course it has been answered, that answer may (but very likely won’t) change upon appeal. But as of this moment she is not British. |  |
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| Begum on 20:35 - Feb 27 with 636 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Begum on 13:38 - Feb 27 by controversial_jack |
She took part in no terrorist acts and wasn't even a member, she just married a guy who wast. Even out govt know and acknowledge this. Why she is being singled out when 400 fighters have already returned and been vetted by the security services is some political matter which we aren't to know |
She isn’t being singled out, that’s your lack of understanding of the case.
800 duel nationals who decided to leave the U.K. to join Islamic State got their citizenship removed to stop them returning. Begum is merely one. | |
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| Begum on 21:08 - Feb 27 with 619 views | Flashberryjack |
| Begum on 17:07 - Feb 27 by DJack |
"The Supreme Court have reiterated she can appeal against the stripping of citizenship (so the question remains open) but have said that she can’t come here while that happens.
The decision that someone has to fight a legal appeal from some camp without lawyers is removing basic rights to a fair trial. It’s ridiculous."
The majority on here bang on when the courts makes odd decisions that appear to be contra to UK law (when dealing with topics that trigger them) so I find their view on this woman rather odd.
Personally, my view is that she should be banged up but the right to a fair trial is paramount and therefore she should have her day in the courts. |
You know all to well that once she sets foot in the UK the courts can never deport her, whether she's found guilty or innocent, that's the main reason her legal team want her to appear in person. |  |
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| Begum on 22:53 - Feb 27 with 593 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 20:35 - Feb 27 by Dr_Parnassus |
She isn’t being singled out, that’s your lack of understanding of the case.
800 duel nationals who decided to leave the U.K. to join Islamic State got their citizenship removed to stop them returning. Begum is merely one. |
No they haven't , 400 have returned and are deemed not to be a risk | | | |
| Begum on 01:40 - Feb 28 with 562 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Begum on 22:53 - Feb 27 by controversial_jack |
No they haven't , 400 have returned and are deemed not to be a risk |
No they haven’t what? What I stated was a fact not an opinion. She is one of many that had their citizenship revoked, nearly 1000 when I last read. May have been more since.
Those returning may not have had duel nationality, making it illegal to block their return. That would have no comparison to the Begum situation. | |
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| Begum on 02:32 - Feb 28 with 552 views | Highjack |
Looks like she’s getting plenty of food in that camp. |  |
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| Begum on 15:16 - Feb 28 with 463 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 01:40 - Feb 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
No they haven’t what? What I stated was a fact not an opinion. She is one of many that had their citizenship revoked, nearly 1000 when I last read. May have been more since.
Those returning may not have had duel nationality, making it illegal to block their return. That would have no comparison to the Begum situation. |
Nope, only 800 left this country to fight, and 400 have returned | | | |
| Begum on 15:36 - Feb 28 with 452 views | Groo |
| Begum on 15:16 - Feb 28 by controversial_jack |
Nope, only 800 left this country to fight, and 400 have returned |
and as it been previously pointed out, if someone does not have duel citizenship it would be illegal to stop them. |  |
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| Begum on 15:39 - Feb 28 with 449 views | trampie |
| Begum on 15:36 - Feb 28 by Groo |
and as it been previously pointed out, if someone does not have duel citizenship it would be illegal to stop them. |
Who has dual citizenship ? | |
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| Begum on 15:45 - Feb 28 with 445 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 11:16 - Feb 27 by trampie |
Do you know if she killed people or planned to kill people ? |
Witnesses have suggested she would be the one to stitch people into their suicide vests in such a way that it would detonate if they tried to remove them. | |
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| Begum on 16:00 - Feb 28 with 439 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 15:45 - Feb 28 by Highjack |
Witnesses have suggested she would be the one to stitch people into their suicide vests in such a way that it would detonate if they tried to remove them. |
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| Begum on 16:20 - Feb 28 with 435 views | Highjack |
suggest
/səˈdʒɛst/
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verb
1.
put forward for consideration.
"I suggest that we wait a day or two"
Similar:
propose
put forward
submit
recommend
advocate
advise
propound
urge
encourage
counsel
move
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2.
cause one to think that (something) exists or is the case.
"finds of lead coffins suggested a cemetery north of the river" | |
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| Begum on 19:17 - Feb 28 with 396 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 16:20 - Feb 28 by Highjack |
suggest
/səˈdʒɛst/
Learn to pronounce
verb
1.
put forward for consideration.
"I suggest that we wait a day or two"
Similar:
propose
put forward
submit
recommend
advocate
advise
propound
urge
encourage
counsel
move
table
2.
cause one to think that (something) exists or is the case.
"finds of lead coffins suggested a cemetery north of the river" |
Did you google that or was it Wikipedia? | | | |
| Begum on 19:49 - Feb 28 with 384 views | raynor94 |
| Begum on 02:32 - Feb 28 by Highjack |
Looks like she’s getting plenty of food in that camp. |
Designer shops as well |  |
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| Begum on 21:04 - Feb 28 with 366 views | trampie |
She hasn't got dual citizenship. | |
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| Begum on 21:08 - Feb 28 with 362 views | Flashberryjack |
| Begum on 21:04 - Feb 28 by trampie |
She hasn't got dual citizenship. |
She hasn't got citizenship anywhere, poor dab. | |
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