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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban 21:10 - Apr 14 with 1055 viewsKeithHaynes

For the Rangers incident.
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 21:25 - Apr 14 with 812 viewsGwyn737

It’s not even close to being a suitable sanction. Embarrassing.
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 21:42 - Apr 14 with 791 viewsFireboy2

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 21:25 - Apr 14 by Gwyn737

It’s not even close to being a suitable sanction. Embarrassing.


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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:11 - Apr 14 with 774 viewstrampie

10 games for saying a nasty word, lot of snowflakes about these days, if all nasty words carried 10 game bans then fair enough but they don't.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:49 - Apr 14 with 745 viewsFireboy2

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:11 - Apr 14 by trampie

10 games for saying a nasty word, lot of snowflakes about these days, if all nasty words carried 10 game bans then fair enough but they don't.



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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:51 - Apr 14 with 749 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:49 - Apr 14 by Fireboy2



Accusation of bestiallty are not to pleasant in my eyes but there are some oddballs out there that laugh at the same joke for over 50 years.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 23:03 - Apr 14 with 739 viewsTreforys_Jack

Do we know what was actually said and was there enough proof, maybe that's the reason for the lenient penalty. What I do know is some of these former eastern block countries are some of the most racially intolerant on earth.
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 23:33 - Apr 14 with 698 viewsonehunglow

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 23:03 - Apr 14 by Treforys_Jack

Do we know what was actually said and was there enough proof, maybe that's the reason for the lenient penalty. What I do know is some of these former eastern block countries are some of the most racially intolerant on earth.


Are we cool.?

Just checking.


Yep,they employed lip reading experts.

What was said is as bad as it can get but it’s ok for east European teams.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 01:44 - Apr 15 with 699 viewsNotLoyal

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 22:11 - Apr 14 by trampie

10 games for saying a nasty word, lot of snowflakes about these days, if all nasty words carried 10 game bans then fair enough but they don't.


He used the word ' niger' apparently, based on that it's not very cool

Apologies, it was 'monkey' so that's ok.
[Post edited 15 Apr 1:48]

OK I've changed it.
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 07:11 - Apr 15 with 654 viewstrampie

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 23:33 - Apr 14 by onehunglow

Are we cool.?

Just checking.


Yep,they employed lip reading experts.

What was said is as bad as it can get but it’s ok for east European teams.

How many black players do you see east of Trieste


He covered his mouth and whispered.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 08:48 - Apr 15 with 605 viewsonehunglow

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 01:44 - Apr 15 by NotLoyal

He used the word ' niger' apparently, based on that it's not very cool

Apologies, it was 'monkey' so that's ok.
[Post edited 15 Apr 1:48]


Monkey was a normal insult in Italy and still is in parts .

Sadly the old eastern socialist european social countries still have caught up with the 20th C.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 14:20 - Apr 15 with 561 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 23:03 - Apr 14 by Treforys_Jack

Do we know what was actually said and was there enough proof, maybe that's the reason for the lenient penalty. What I do know is some of these former eastern block countries are some of the most racially intolerant on earth.


English fans ritually racially abuse Welsh fans every single game. I personally have seen foul abuse with in yards close up an personal by somebody on drugs or heavily drunk. Short cropped hair and neck tats. (extremely unpleasant). I see the SW Constulary not take any action.

I know Welsh fans are not comfortable facing up to this but this must change. Zero tolerance means zero.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 14:26 - Apr 15 with 557 viewsKeithHaynes

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 14:20 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1

English fans ritually racially abuse Welsh fans every single game. I personally have seen foul abuse with in yards close up an personal by somebody on drugs or heavily drunk. Short cropped hair and neck tats. (extremely unpleasant). I see the SW Constulary not take any action.

I know Welsh fans are not comfortable facing up to this but this must change. Zero tolerance means zero.


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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 17:41 - Apr 15 with 529 viewsTreforys_Jack

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 14:20 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1

English fans ritually racially abuse Welsh fans every single game. I personally have seen foul abuse with in yards close up an personal by somebody on drugs or heavily drunk. Short cropped hair and neck tats. (extremely unpleasant). I see the SW Constulary not take any action.

I know Welsh fans are not comfortable facing up to this but this must change. Zero tolerance means zero.


Yeah cos that's the same thing. Ffs
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 19:02 - Apr 15 with 503 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 17:41 - Apr 15 by Treforys_Jack

Yeah cos that's the same thing. Ffs


You lack persepective. The Czech player doing the monkey thing would love to have done the sheep thing if someone had told him of it. Just after Bale elbowed him in the chops. Right up his street.

If a monkey joke is funny then so is a sheep joke. The only difference is the target. You say it is not offensive because Welsh peope take it as a joke. Well i dont. I take it a face value free from historical precedent that automatically make 'the Sass' innocent of all charges. A 500 year old joke. Make that joke, you laugh I dont.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 21:55 - Apr 15 with 445 viewsonehunglow

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 19:02 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1

You lack persepective. The Czech player doing the monkey thing would love to have done the sheep thing if someone had told him of it. Just after Bale elbowed him in the chops. Right up his street.

If a monkey joke is funny then so is a sheep joke. The only difference is the target. You say it is not offensive because Welsh peope take it as a joke. Well i dont. I take it a face value free from historical precedent that automatically make 'the Sass' innocent of all charges. A 500 year old joke. Make that joke, you laugh I dont.


I have reflected on this and frankly I see your point,taken at face value.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 04:53 - Apr 16 with 426 viewsTreforys_Jack

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 19:02 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1

You lack persepective. The Czech player doing the monkey thing would love to have done the sheep thing if someone had told him of it. Just after Bale elbowed him in the chops. Right up his street.

If a monkey joke is funny then so is a sheep joke. The only difference is the target. You say it is not offensive because Welsh peope take it as a joke. Well i dont. I take it a face value free from historical precedent that automatically make 'the Sass' innocent of all charges. A 500 year old joke. Make that joke, you laugh I dont.


You're confusing racist behavior with xenophobic behavior.
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:18 - Apr 16 with 381 viewsReslovenSwan1

The issue becomes a question of whether "Celtic" is a race. Race is not simply a matter of skin colour. Slavs, Turks, Japanese , Scandanavians are all races.

Take the US owners. They are both American (not a race) and from reports Jewish (a race). Anti Americanism is xenophobic, Anti jewish is racist. People throw the word "Yank" about without fear. Posters can be xenophbic on here but not racist. Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, Mexicans, Argentinans are not a race.

I am in no doubt Celtic is a race. Cymro are obviously more assimilated than Scots or Irish where red hair is a national trait. Due to the vallleys industrial immigration Welsh have less Celtic blood than Scots or particularly Irish. The historians I see on the BBC tend not to mention 'Celts' these days prefering the word "Ancient Britons". This may be due to poltical pressure to discourage separatist opinion. I saw a BBC Wales report on a discovered Hill fort near Cardiff. The Celts were not mentioned.

So what does DNA analysis tell us?. I took this from google.

"Origin. R1b-L21 is likely a haplogroup belonging to the Insular Celts (among others), who migrated to Western Europe during the Bronze Age, populating vast regions of what is now Ireland, Great Britain, Northern Spain and northern France."
This matches with remnant language speaking of which Cymraeg is the most widely spoken.

Not an experts but the R1B gene is the red head gene as I understand it. Interestingly there is a red headed region in Russia east of the Urals with the same gene.

I put it to you accusing one particual race of people on this Island of bestially is without doubt in my mind Racist. I accept due to centuraries of precident this is at the lower end of the fifth specrum. It is filth never the less. I see talk of zero tolerance as empty words unless the South Wales police have a crackdown. If they do not then do not talk of Zero.

I am not a Celtic racist. I do not believe Celts are any better than anyone else. Celts do have some physical traits which tend to come out in athletic activities.

In my opinion any Welshman that plays along with racist taunts is "part of the problem". Of course this will be a very hard pill to take for some.
[Post edited 16 Apr 12:24]

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:45 - Apr 16 with 361 viewsTreforys_Jack

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:18 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1

The issue becomes a question of whether "Celtic" is a race. Race is not simply a matter of skin colour. Slavs, Turks, Japanese , Scandanavians are all races.

Take the US owners. They are both American (not a race) and from reports Jewish (a race). Anti Americanism is xenophobic, Anti jewish is racist. People throw the word "Yank" about without fear. Posters can be xenophbic on here but not racist. Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, Mexicans, Argentinans are not a race.

I am in no doubt Celtic is a race. Cymro are obviously more assimilated than Scots or Irish where red hair is a national trait. Due to the vallleys industrial immigration Welsh have less Celtic blood than Scots or particularly Irish. The historians I see on the BBC tend not to mention 'Celts' these days prefering the word "Ancient Britons". This may be due to poltical pressure to discourage separatist opinion. I saw a BBC Wales report on a discovered Hill fort near Cardiff. The Celts were not mentioned.

So what does DNA analysis tell us?. I took this from google.

"Origin. R1b-L21 is likely a haplogroup belonging to the Insular Celts (among others), who migrated to Western Europe during the Bronze Age, populating vast regions of what is now Ireland, Great Britain, Northern Spain and northern France."
This matches with remnant language speaking of which Cymraeg is the most widely spoken.

Not an experts but the R1B gene is the red head gene as I understand it. Interestingly there is a red headed region in Russia east of the Urals with the same gene.

I put it to you accusing one particual race of people on this Island of bestially is without doubt in my mind Racist. I accept due to centuraries of precident this is at the lower end of the fifth specrum. It is filth never the less. I see talk of zero tolerance as empty words unless the South Wales police have a crackdown. If they do not then do not talk of Zero.

I am not a Celtic racist. I do not believe Celts are any better than anyone else. Celts do have some physical traits which tend to come out in athletic activities.

In my opinion any Welshman that plays along with racist taunts is "part of the problem". Of course this will be a very hard pill to take for some.
[Post edited 16 Apr 12:24]


Have you tested your own DNA ? , or researched your own ancestry?
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:53 - Apr 16 with 355 viewsJoe_bradshaw

“In my opinion any Welshman that plays along with racist taunts is "part of the problem". Of course this will be a very hard pill to take for some.”

Nope.

Your opinion matters not a jot to me and others so why on earth would it be a very hard pill to take?

Don’t flatter yourself.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 13:49 - Apr 16 with 335 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:53 - Apr 16 by Joe_bradshaw

“In my opinion any Welshman that plays along with racist taunts is "part of the problem". Of course this will be a very hard pill to take for some.”

Nope.

Your opinion matters not a jot to me and others so why on earth would it be a very hard pill to take?

Don’t flatter yourself.


I said "for some" not all. It primarily refers to those that give my argument some thought and consideration and do some self analysis.

I see some here post horror at 'Slavic' peoples race abuse to 'Africans', but say nothing of 'Anglophone' abuse of 'Celtic' peoples or actually declare it is not offensive. It is the same. Its an ethnic put down designed to cause offence.

Africans and Asians have the option of taking it a a joke but have decided not to take it as a joke. Some apparently are in need of 'counselling' after such "jokes". You hear things like. "he is a strong boy" and we are "here for him". etc

If anyone says one is OK and the other is not is deluding themselves. Same "joke" same people making the "joke" same problem.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 15:29 - Apr 16 with 306 viewsTreforys_Jack

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 12:45 - Apr 16 by Treforys_Jack

Have you tested your own DNA ? , or researched your own ancestry?


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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 16:12 - Apr 16 with 287 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 15:29 - Apr 16 by Treforys_Jack

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I have not done any tests. I know my heritage going back three of four generations. South West and northwest Wales, red hair pale skin freckles as a boy. Welsh speaking heritage maternal and paternal.

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 16:30 - Apr 16 with 276 viewsjasper_T



Something very unseemly about people who can't talk about racism without trying to refocus the argument through their own personal lens (usually where they're the real victim).
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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 18:15 - Apr 16 with 237 viewsonehunglow

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 16:12 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1

I have not done any tests. I know my heritage going back three of four generations. South West and northwest Wales, red hair pale skin freckles as a boy. Welsh speaking heritage maternal and paternal.


And what if it does.
Are you making out you are of a more pure bloodline .
Seems you are and it’s pitiful.
Too many mongrel Welsh. .? Those tainted by English scum ,non welsh speakers not as good as you then.

Slavs hate backs . Full stop.

It s hard for one white person to racially abuse another at first sight

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The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 18:45 - Apr 16 with 234 viewsTreforys_Jack

The Prague racist gets a ten game ban on 16:12 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1

I have not done any tests. I know my heritage going back three of four generations. South West and northwest Wales, red hair pale skin freckles as a boy. Welsh speaking heritage maternal and paternal.


So not very far then. Wales was very sparsely populated right up to the industrial revolution, very few pure Welsh (whatever that really means), you probably have Irish roots.
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