| Joshua - Fury 10:56 - May 12 with 4802 views | britferry |
Looks like its gonna take place but they're taking it to Saudia Arabia.
Not only a kick in the teeth for the British sports fans but going there for money, with all their human rights issues, its just plain wrong. |  |
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| Joshua - Fury on 18:59 - May 19 with 929 views | shingle |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:40 - May 19 by onehunglow |
and it's supposed to be a sport  |
It has become a farcical sport now, a great and genuine undisputed world title fight between Taylor and Ramirez takes place on Saturday yet none of the major broadcasters are showing it yet Sky hare showing the circus show between Paul and Mayweather, and now it looks as if the Fury and AJ fight can not take place, the sport is fast becoming a shambles and what may very well happen next is one of them will lose before the fight takes place, as i say the sport is becoming a laughing stock taken over by Youtubers. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:05 - May 19 with 924 views | shingle |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:57 - May 19 by jack247 |
You may well have been, but not on this thread and you clearly weren’t replying to a post about MMA fighters v boxers as no one had brought it up. I assumed you had got mixed up with posts later in the conversation, possibly you’d got mixed up with posts from different conversations. Either way, read it back, you had it wrong.
You’re right, it’s no big deal. I wouldn’t have bothered pointing your mistake out if you hadn’t attempted to patronise. |
Not a case of may very well have may been, we were, and as i say you really need to try to stop trying to explain yourself, you messed up just stop worrying over it and the way you are constantly repeating the words mixed up shows you are exactly that. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:31 - May 19 with 906 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:05 - May 19 by shingle |
Not a case of may very well have may been, we were, and as i say you really need to try to stop trying to explain yourself, you messed up just stop worrying over it and the way you are constantly repeating the words mixed up shows you are exactly that. |
Tell you what mate, show me the post you were replying to, in your post starting with ‘And with a ridiculous £75m...’ and I’ll hold my hands up. If you can’t, we’ll just leave it at that.
For what it’s worth, I agree with your point, I just think it’s irrelevant. No way do either of them get near a top MMA fighter unless they manage a knockout/debilitating strike before getting taken down. Very unlikely. I’ve never seen Ngannou do anything but strike, but I’m sure he’s got it all in his locker. Against the likes of Miocic or Cormier, they’ve got no chance. Hence my valid comparison with Bolt and Farah. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:38 - May 19 with 897 views | onehunglow |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:59 - May 19 by shingle |
It has become a farcical sport now, a great and genuine undisputed world title fight between Taylor and Ramirez takes place on Saturday yet none of the major broadcasters are showing it yet Sky hare showing the circus show between Paul and Mayweather, and now it looks as if the Fury and AJ fight can not take place, the sport is fast becoming a shambles and what may very well happen next is one of them will lose before the fight takes place, as i say the sport is becoming a laughing stock taken over by Youtubers. |
I believe it changed when all the weight divisions changed .Super this and that.
I think mankind should have moved on from the likes of Fury stating he wants to basically brain damage people.
It used to be the case opponents didnt feel the need to trash talk
Dempsey v Tunney saw 120,000 attend and neither fighter was seen to trash the other to sell tickets. Same with Louis and Rocky-real champions ,real men of class. Fury is really not worthy of mention in the same sentence as the Greats . And yes, Louis and Marciano would have knocked him cold. God knows what Ali would have done with Fury and Dempsey would have smashed him gypsy style . | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 19:51 - May 19 with 899 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:38 - May 19 by onehunglow |
I believe it changed when all the weight divisions changed .Super this and that.
I think mankind should have moved on from the likes of Fury stating he wants to basically brain damage people.
It used to be the case opponents didnt feel the need to trash talk
Dempsey v Tunney saw 120,000 attend and neither fighter was seen to trash the other to sell tickets. Same with Louis and Rocky-real champions ,real men of class. Fury is really not worthy of mention in the same sentence as the Greats . And yes, Louis and Marciano would have knocked him cold. God knows what Ali would have done with Fury and Dempsey would have smashed him gypsy style . |
To be fair to Fury, comparing the best now with the best ever is always likely to be a skewed argument. It’s the same with footballers or any sport.
I don’t think the fighters necessarily feel the need to trash talk, they do it simply because increases the buys and they earn more money. Different sport but look at Conor McGregor. Ability wise, he was the best for a period before he moved up to lightweight. He’s not anymore in any weight class, but he’s one of the best paid athletes in the world, because he’s miles ahead of anyone at selling fights. He doesn’t even have to do much promotion now. I’d guess he’s nowhere near as antagonistic off camera. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 20:07 - May 19 with 887 views | onehunglow |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:51 - May 19 by jack247 |
To be fair to Fury, comparing the best now with the best ever is always likely to be a skewed argument. It’s the same with footballers or any sport.
I don’t think the fighters necessarily feel the need to trash talk, they do it simply because increases the buys and they earn more money. Different sport but look at Conor McGregor. Ability wise, he was the best for a period before he moved up to lightweight. He’s not anymore in any weight class, but he’s one of the best paid athletes in the world, because he’s miles ahead of anyone at selling fights. He doesn’t even have to do much promotion now. I’d guess he’s nowhere near as antagonistic off camera. |
They don't have to but do,as you say,to sell fights.That is my points.Literally hundreds of thouands wanted to ee Dempseoy Tunney.They didnt have to sell the fight a they do now.
This is a fairly recent phenomena started really by Cassius Clay,a he was.I dint like it then ,as a kid,I dont like it now.
As for McGregor,I simply do not take him seriously.I wish others did the same as regards this unpleasant chap | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 20:16 - May 19 with 887 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 20:07 - May 19 by onehunglow |
They don't have to but do,as you say,to sell fights.That is my points.Literally hundreds of thouands wanted to ee Dempseoy Tunney.They didnt have to sell the fight a they do now.
This is a fairly recent phenomena started really by Cassius Clay,a he was.I dint like it then ,as a kid,I dont like it now.
As for McGregor,I simply do not take him seriously.I wish others did the same as regards this unpleasant chap |
That’s just down to stadium size though. Joshua v Fury would sell out any stadium in the UK multiple times over. I have no idea what their global popularity is.
Remember Carl Froch repeatedly half joking, half bragging about fighting in front of 80,000 at Wembley? He was a great boxer and there was some spicy build up, but neither him nor Groves were international superstars.
Edit - you can ignore McGregor, but he’s the perfect example of why fighters trash talk. He’s no longer the best, but he’s by far and away the biggest draw. [Post edited 19 May 2021 20:21]
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| Joshua - Fury on 20:30 - May 19 with 877 views | britferry |
the one thing I've liked about not having crowds, is hearing the boxers gasping for breath in the their corners between rounds. Like it or not, they are very fit athletes. | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 21:20 - May 19 with 859 views | Dr_Winston |
| Joshua - Fury on 20:30 - May 19 by britferry |
the one thing I've liked about not having crowds, is hearing the boxers gasping for breath in the their corners between rounds. Like it or not, they are very fit athletes. |
They are amongst the fittest of all athletes if I remember from reading stuff before. Maybe road cyclists or rowers are similar in terms of endurance or stamina. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Joshua - Fury on 21:21 - May 19 with 855 views | onehunglow |
| Joshua - Fury on 20:16 - May 19 by jack247 |
That’s just down to stadium size though. Joshua v Fury would sell out any stadium in the UK multiple times over. I have no idea what their global popularity is.
Remember Carl Froch repeatedly half joking, half bragging about fighting in front of 80,000 at Wembley? He was a great boxer and there was some spicy build up, but neither him nor Groves were international superstars.
Edit - you can ignore McGregor, but he’s the perfect example of why fighters trash talk. He’s no longer the best, but he’s by far and away the biggest draw. [Post edited 19 May 2021 20:21]
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First paragraph answer is pretty much zero.
The rest is a good riposte in fairness
You mention Froch.
It’s why we shouldn’t compare eras but we both fell for it.
Heddwych and thanks for the exchange | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 21:34 - May 19 with 854 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 21:21 - May 19 by onehunglow |
First paragraph answer is pretty much zero.
The rest is a good riposte in fairness
You mention Froch.
It’s why we shouldn’t compare eras but we both fell for it.
Heddwych and thanks for the exchange |
Not sure what’s wrong with the first paragraph. It’s not as if Joshua and Fury wouldn’t sell out a 120k stadium if we had one here. The Froch point was that fighters with nowhere near the popularity of those two can sell out our biggest stadiums.
But yeah, decent exchange. Thanks | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 21:51 - May 19 with 846 views | onehunglow |
| Joshua - Fury on 21:34 - May 19 by jack247 |
Not sure what’s wrong with the first paragraph. It’s not as if Joshua and Fury wouldn’t sell out a 120k stadium if we had one here. The Froch point was that fighters with nowhere near the popularity of those two can sell out our biggest stadiums.
But yeah, decent exchange. Thanks |
Nothing wrong with it at all. I just don’t agree.
Pity you didn’t live nearer as you could watch the game here amongst good people . I believe Wifey is getting dressed up for the game. In what I don’t rightly know but nothing will distract me from this game.
If we get to the promised land, many around here will get annoyed | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 18:12 - May 20 with 776 views | shingle |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:31 - May 19 by jack247 |
Tell you what mate, show me the post you were replying to, in your post starting with ‘And with a ridiculous £75m...’ and I’ll hold my hands up. If you can’t, we’ll just leave it at that.
For what it’s worth, I agree with your point, I just think it’s irrelevant. No way do either of them get near a top MMA fighter unless they manage a knockout/debilitating strike before getting taken down. Very unlikely. I’ve never seen Ngannou do anything but strike, but I’m sure he’s got it all in his locker. Against the likes of Miocic or Cormier, they’ve got no chance. Hence my valid comparison with Bolt and Farah. |
You have been told to just leave it at that countless times you header, you are being told to stop trying to explain yourself and stop getting yourself so worked up over something so trivial, look you only made a mistake just forget about it saying that even tho you are trying to dig yourself out of an hole it is nice to see you now agree with my post, we got there in the end.  | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:27 - May 20 with 772 views | shingle |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:38 - May 19 by onehunglow |
I believe it changed when all the weight divisions changed .Super this and that.
I think mankind should have moved on from the likes of Fury stating he wants to basically brain damage people.
It used to be the case opponents didnt feel the need to trash talk
Dempsey v Tunney saw 120,000 attend and neither fighter was seen to trash the other to sell tickets. Same with Louis and Rocky-real champions ,real men of class. Fury is really not worthy of mention in the same sentence as the Greats . And yes, Louis and Marciano would have knocked him cold. God knows what Ali would have done with Fury and Dempsey would have smashed him gypsy style . |
I agree with a lot of what you say there but i find you are a little bias towards the old days yes the likes of Ali, Holmes, and fighters from that era are a level above anything from the Klitschko`s to the current lot proven by the way an ageing Lennock lewis beat klitscho who was young and in his prime, but it is highly unlikely Marciano would have lasted long against guys this size as his fighting weight was normally around 13 to 14 stone so you could well imagine what the likes of Foreman and co would have done to him. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:18 - May 20 with 764 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:12 - May 20 by shingle |
You have been told to just leave it at that countless times you header, you are being told to stop trying to explain yourself and stop getting yourself so worked up over something so trivial, look you only made a mistake just forget about it saying that even tho you are trying to dig yourself out of an hole it is nice to see you now agree with my post, we got there in the end. |
Of course, if I had got it wrong, you’d have just shown me the post you were replying to.
Not worked up, I just find it amusing when people attempt to patronise, realise they were actually wrong and go down the route you have.
I absolutely agree that a top MMA fighter would beat a top boxer in a streetfight. I can’t even see an argument against that to be honest.
Where we disagree is you thought you were already replying to that debate, when no one had mentioned it on this thread. If you don’t believe me, read the thread from top to bottom. You’ll see who brought it up ðŸ‘🻠| | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:13 - May 21 with 715 views | shingle |
| Joshua - Fury on 19:18 - May 20 by jack247 |
Of course, if I had got it wrong, you’d have just shown me the post you were replying to.
Not worked up, I just find it amusing when people attempt to patronise, realise they were actually wrong and go down the route you have.
I absolutely agree that a top MMA fighter would beat a top boxer in a streetfight. I can’t even see an argument against that to be honest.
Where we disagree is you thought you were already replying to that debate, when no one had mentioned it on this thread. If you don’t believe me, read the thread from top to bottom. You’ll see who brought it up ðŸ‘🻠|
You really do not have to keep trying to explain yourself and stop worrying, you just made a simple mistake you need to move on there`s a good chap because you are only upsetting yourself. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 22:22 - May 21 with 702 views | jack247 |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:13 - May 21 by shingle |
You really do not have to keep trying to explain yourself and stop worrying, you just made a simple mistake you need to move on there`s a good chap because you are only upsetting yourself. |
Shingle, stop talking mate. There’s no substance to what you’re saying. I can point to exactly where you confused yourself and have done. You can’t do the same because I simply didn’t make a mistake.
Leave it there or give me another paragraph of meandering waffle. You can do either, only thing you can’t do is explain this mistake you’re pretending I made. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 13:05 - May 22 with 676 views | max936 |
What's the Archie Moore now then, Fury v Joshua off seeing has Wilder won't stand aside? |  |
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| Joshua - Fury on 14:16 - May 22 with 660 views | onehunglow |
| Joshua - Fury on 18:27 - May 20 by shingle |
I agree with a lot of what you say there but i find you are a little bias towards the old days yes the likes of Ali, Holmes, and fighters from that era are a level above anything from the Klitschko`s to the current lot proven by the way an ageing Lennock lewis beat klitscho who was young and in his prime, but it is highly unlikely Marciano would have lasted long against guys this size as his fighting weight was normally around 13 to 14 stone so you could well imagine what the likes of Foreman and co would have done to him. |
A very good reply and thanks.
It’s always a dumb comparison but fun.
It depends on the rules of the dat.
Rocky would be beaten on points by Lennox Lewis .
IMO, Foreman would have been the only one to ko Rocky.
If we re talking 1940/50s times,Rocky would have have got underneath Foreman and Lewis and would have got really dirty with them.
Dempsey in his era smashed far bigger men and would ,in his day,Kodak both George and Lennox.
Joe Louis in his prime still stands out as the supreme boxer | |
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| Joshua - Fury on 23:49 - May 22 with 621 views | howenjack |
Congratulations Sam Egginton on winning the wbc middleweight belt.
Ps I'll buy you a pint next time I see ya in the Brittannia . | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 08:47 - May 23 with 594 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Joshua - Fury on 23:49 - May 22 by howenjack |
Congratulations Sam Egginton on winning the wbc middleweight belt.
Ps I'll buy you a pint next time I see ya in the Brittannia . |
Fury v Joshua is off, gone.
Taken out by the authorities by the look of it.
Fury to fight Wilder and Joshua to fight Usyk. | | | |
| Joshua - Fury on 09:27 - May 23 with 583 views | theloneranger |
| Joshua - Fury on 23:49 - May 22 by howenjack |
Congratulations Sam Egginton on winning the wbc middleweight belt.
Ps I'll buy you a pint next time I see ya in the Brittannia . |
Brilliant fight by Sam, but it wasn't for the full WBC belt - it was the WBC "Silver" belt .
It puts Sam further up the World rankings to approx No 9, and a better chance of a fight for the World Title.
Tremendous fight by Josh Taylor in Las Vegas to become undisputed world super-lightweight champion, and Britain's first undisputed world champion in the four-belt era, and only the fifth champion to hold all four belts in the sport.
Poor ringside judges once again. All 3 judges gave the fight to Taylor 114-112, but that included 2 knockdowns by Taylor in the 6th and 7th rounds. |  |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| Joshua - Fury on 15:14 - May 23 with 554 views | max936 |
| Joshua - Fury on 09:27 - May 23 by theloneranger |
Brilliant fight by Sam, but it wasn't for the full WBC belt - it was the WBC "Silver" belt .
It puts Sam further up the World rankings to approx No 9, and a better chance of a fight for the World Title.
Tremendous fight by Josh Taylor in Las Vegas to become undisputed world super-lightweight champion, and Britain's first undisputed world champion in the four-belt era, and only the fifth champion to hold all four belts in the sport.
Poor ringside judges once again. All 3 judges gave the fight to Taylor 114-112, but that included 2 knockdowns by Taylor in the 6th and 7th rounds. |
Wants Crawford next, be a good fight, but Crawford is special, but who knows. | |
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