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12/1 Relegation 07:06 - Aug 6 with 3711 viewspikeypaul

With the hedge fund making it clear the last 3 years they are not willing to invest a penny of their own money into the club and will sell anything and everything that has a value you will find worse 12/1 shots.It was 16/1 only last week the pros have already smashed into that and forced the price down.I got a bit of that and 14s but also topping up again at 12s

Obviously none of us want it to happen but one thing is for sure if you don’t want to play the bet out to it’s conclusion then at that price you will be able to lock in a profit at some point during the season.

To be fair the scum β€˜owners’ hedge fund deserve nothing more than relegation having raped the club the last few years, whilst the fans have stood aside and happily and quietly bent over and been shafted then defended the hedge fund.

Let the abuse begin πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
[Post edited 6 Aug 7:20]

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12/1 Relegation on 07:43 - Aug 6 with 2519 viewsWhiterockin

How have we been doing the last 3 years pikey.
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12/1 Relegation on 08:50 - Aug 6 with 2433 viewsandypitt56

One of two clubs to post a profit in the championship last year, but yeh we have been absolutely rinsed by these American owners. I mean how dare they take over a club in the premiership where our wages were 85% of our turnover, then spend 18m on borja (flop) 18m on ayew (flop in prem), 14m on bony(flop) 10m clucas (flop) 11m mesa(flop) 4m loan fee for sanches(flop).Championship, peterson 500K(flop) Mckay 500k (flop) Celina 4m (flop) asoro 2m (flop) Ayew the highest paid player in the championship the last 2 years. Please feel free to add any players I missed off that was money well spent...But yeh they havent invested anything.
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12/1 Relegation on 08:59 - Aug 6 with 2414 viewsraynor94

12/1 Relegation on 08:50 - Aug 6 by andypitt56

One of two clubs to post a profit in the championship last year, but yeh we have been absolutely rinsed by these American owners. I mean how dare they take over a club in the premiership where our wages were 85% of our turnover, then spend 18m on borja (flop) 18m on ayew (flop in prem), 14m on bony(flop) 10m clucas (flop) 11m mesa(flop) 4m loan fee for sanches(flop).Championship, peterson 500K(flop) Mckay 500k (flop) Celina 4m (flop) asoro 2m (flop) Ayew the highest paid player in the championship the last 2 years. Please feel free to add any players I missed off that was money well spent...But yeh they havent invested anything.


Pikey isn't a fan, just a wind up merchant, same bloke who wanted Brentford to win the play off final.

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12/1 Relegation on 10:16 - Aug 6 with 2299 viewsangryjack

12/1 Relegation on 08:50 - Aug 6 by andypitt56

One of two clubs to post a profit in the championship last year, but yeh we have been absolutely rinsed by these American owners. I mean how dare they take over a club in the premiership where our wages were 85% of our turnover, then spend 18m on borja (flop) 18m on ayew (flop in prem), 14m on bony(flop) 10m clucas (flop) 11m mesa(flop) 4m loan fee for sanches(flop).Championship, peterson 500K(flop) Mckay 500k (flop) Celina 4m (flop) asoro 2m (flop) Ayew the highest paid player in the championship the last 2 years. Please feel free to add any players I missed off that was money well spent...But yeh they havent invested anything.


They never spent it the club did..the club runs itself they not put nothing in only loans which they will get back with interest,,
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12/1 Relegation on 11:11 - Aug 6 with 2237 viewsReslovenSwan1

12/1 Relegation on 10:16 - Aug 6 by angryjack

They never spent it the club did..the club runs itself they not put nothing in only loans which they will get back with interest,,


They have injected a few millions into the clubs coffers without doubt. It is a convertible loan note. They will not get the money back if the loan is converted into shares. The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert.

Outside circumstances may see them withdraw the loan possibly at short notice. Winter will be advised to build up cash funds to cover the return of the loan over the next year or two once Covid debts are paid off.

Wise sage since Toshack era

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12/1 Relegation on 13:38 - Aug 6 with 2120 viewsChief

12/1 Relegation on 11:11 - Aug 6 by ReslovenSwan1

They have injected a few millions into the clubs coffers without doubt. It is a convertible loan note. They will not get the money back if the loan is converted into shares. The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert.

Outside circumstances may see them withdraw the loan possibly at short notice. Winter will be advised to build up cash funds to cover the return of the loan over the next year or two once Covid debts are paid off.


Or internal circumstances could see them take their loan out.

If we struggle this season Silverstein may not fancy it. Quite telling the loan hasn't yet been converted. What is Silverstein waiting for I wonder!?

But glad to see that you're at least saying it for what it is - a loan that can be taken back out at their discretion probably.
[Post edited 6 Aug 13:40]

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12/1 Relegation on 13:46 - Aug 6 with 2096 viewspikeypaul

12/1 Relegation on 07:43 - Aug 6 by Whiterockin

How have we been doing the last 3 years pikey.


Who mentioned the last 3 seasons ? When they pocketed the parachute money and the huge amount of transfer fees we received, now that virtually all talent has been sold and the payments have gone we will all see that the hedge fund is not willing to spend a penny or should I say a cent on the club, but let’s be honest everyone of us knows that don’t we.

Anyway over the next 9 months we will see what happens and if I am not in a position to take a good profit I will happily hold my hands up.

So we will see who is right or wrong, just like with the Remoaners,and project fear well and truly showing us all what BS they talked and guessed.Cliff edge? still waiting Remoaners πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
[Post edited 6 Aug 13:51]

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12/1 Relegation on 13:48 - Aug 6 with 2084 viewsWhiterockin

12/1 Relegation on 13:46 - Aug 6 by pikeypaul

Who mentioned the last 3 seasons ? When they pocketed the parachute money and the huge amount of transfer fees we received, now that virtually all talent has been sold and the payments have gone we will all see that the hedge fund is not willing to spend a penny or should I say a cent on the club, but let’s be honest everyone of us knows that don’t we.

Anyway over the next 9 months we will see what happens and if I am not in a position to take a good profit I will happily hold my hands up.

So we will see who is right or wrong, just like with the Remoaners,and project fear well and truly showing us all what BS they talked and guessed.Cliff edge? still waiting Remoaners πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
[Post edited 6 Aug 13:51]


You did in your first sentence. Even you can't be that stupid.
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12/1 Relegation on 13:51 - Aug 6 with 2067 viewsCatullus

12/1 Relegation on 11:11 - Aug 6 by ReslovenSwan1

They have injected a few millions into the clubs coffers without doubt. It is a convertible loan note. They will not get the money back if the loan is converted into shares. The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert.

Outside circumstances may see them withdraw the loan possibly at short notice. Winter will be advised to build up cash funds to cover the return of the loan over the next year or two once Covid debts are paid off.


"The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert"

Now is that a FACT or an ASSUMPTION on your part? Have you talked to Silverstein about it and gotten a cast iron guarantee?

Conversion is at Silverstein's discretion so it'll depend on his personal circumstances I guess...yes, GUESS.

The OP does love to stir this pot. SKYbet have us midtable at 10-1, Betfair are similar. You'd think people wanted us to go down.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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12/1 Relegation on 13:58 - Aug 6 with 2046 viewsandypitt56

12/1 Relegation on 10:16 - Aug 6 by angryjack

They never spent it the club did..the club runs itself they not put nothing in only loans which they will get back with interest,,


They have run it in the same manner as the previous board but because they are a group of american investors and not a group from swansea, you get this tripe that they are taking money out of the club when there is 0 evidence to support the claims. I'm not saying they are brilliant owners but people need to stop peddling the bull crap.
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12/1 Relegation on 14:00 - Aug 6 with 2032 viewspikeypaul

12/1 Relegation on 13:51 - Aug 6 by Catullus

"The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert"

Now is that a FACT or an ASSUMPTION on your part? Have you talked to Silverstein about it and gotten a cast iron guarantee?

Conversion is at Silverstein's discretion so it'll depend on his personal circumstances I guess...yes, GUESS.

The OP does love to stir this pot. SKYbet have us midtable at 10-1, Betfair are similar. You'd think people wanted us to go down.


And Betfred 9/1 for us to go down so more chance of that than the price you give other bookies quote for us to finish mid table.

Like I said earlier, we will all see over the next 9 months weather the hedge fund not willing to spend a cent β€œtakes us to the next level” like they said when they took overπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
they have already taken us down one level so I suppose we can’t argue they have delivered on their promise πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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12/1 Relegation on 14:25 - Aug 6 with 1997 viewsReslovenSwan1

12/1 Relegation on 13:51 - Aug 6 by Catullus

"The loanee is on the board so the intention is to convert"

Now is that a FACT or an ASSUMPTION on your part? Have you talked to Silverstein about it and gotten a cast iron guarantee?

Conversion is at Silverstein's discretion so it'll depend on his personal circumstances I guess...yes, GUESS.

The OP does love to stir this pot. SKYbet have us midtable at 10-1, Betfair are similar. You'd think people wanted us to go down.


Are you a school teacher or ex School teacher?. You seem to want to naturally lecture people. You will remember this saying perhaps?

β€œThe Only Two Certainties In Life Are Death And Taxes” . Written in a 1789 letter from Benjamin Franklin to Jean-Baptiste Leroy, a prominent French scientist. I cannot guarantee this but it is what has been reported on google.

I do not do guarantees let alone cast iron ones (whatever that means). I will post Silverstein's message to the fans if you want. He called his money a "long term investment not a speculative punt" or words to that effect. Please advise me if you want me to post it. I will do my best to find the post.

I have read up a little on CLNs you learn a lot following Swansea City FC. Naturally a lot goes over the head of most fans.

Wise sage since Toshack era

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12/1 Relegation on 14:37 - Aug 6 with 1982 viewsandypitt56

12/1 Relegation on 14:00 - Aug 6 by pikeypaul

And Betfred 9/1 for us to go down so more chance of that than the price you give other bookies quote for us to finish mid table.

Like I said earlier, we will all see over the next 9 months weather the hedge fund not willing to spend a cent β€œtakes us to the next level” like they said when they took overπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
they have already taken us down one level so I suppose we can’t argue they have delivered on their promise πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
[Post edited 6 Aug 14:12]


are you a meteorologist? because 9 months weather is quite impressive
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12/1 Relegation on 14:54 - Aug 6 with 1958 viewsChief

12/1 Relegation on 14:25 - Aug 6 by ReslovenSwan1

Are you a school teacher or ex School teacher?. You seem to want to naturally lecture people. You will remember this saying perhaps?

β€œThe Only Two Certainties In Life Are Death And Taxes” . Written in a 1789 letter from Benjamin Franklin to Jean-Baptiste Leroy, a prominent French scientist. I cannot guarantee this but it is what has been reported on google.

I do not do guarantees let alone cast iron ones (whatever that means). I will post Silverstein's message to the fans if you want. He called his money a "long term investment not a speculative punt" or words to that effect. Please advise me if you want me to post it. I will do my best to find the post.

I have read up a little on CLNs you learn a lot following Swansea City FC. Naturally a lot goes over the head of most fans.


So it's all down to self proclaimations again.

The facts are it's a loan that they can remove at any point.

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12/1 Relegation on 16:19 - Aug 6 with 1889 viewsCatullus

12/1 Relegation on 14:25 - Aug 6 by ReslovenSwan1

Are you a school teacher or ex School teacher?. You seem to want to naturally lecture people. You will remember this saying perhaps?

β€œThe Only Two Certainties In Life Are Death And Taxes” . Written in a 1789 letter from Benjamin Franklin to Jean-Baptiste Leroy, a prominent French scientist. I cannot guarantee this but it is what has been reported on google.

I do not do guarantees let alone cast iron ones (whatever that means). I will post Silverstein's message to the fans if you want. He called his money a "long term investment not a speculative punt" or words to that effect. Please advise me if you want me to post it. I will do my best to find the post.

I have read up a little on CLNs you learn a lot following Swansea City FC. Naturally a lot goes over the head of most fans.


You're the one doing the lecturing, you're the one stating your assumptions as fact. You (in that post) told us what Silverstein is going to do, how do you know?

There 3 certainties, death taxes and you stating your opinion as a fact!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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12/1 Relegation on 16:27 - Aug 6 with 1871 viewsCatullus

12/1 Relegation on 14:00 - Aug 6 by pikeypaul

And Betfred 9/1 for us to go down so more chance of that than the price you give other bookies quote for us to finish mid table.

Like I said earlier, we will all see over the next 9 months weather the hedge fund not willing to spend a cent β€œtakes us to the next level” like they said when they took overπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
they have already taken us down one level so I suppose we can’t argue they have delivered on their promise πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
[Post edited 6 Aug 14:12]


Looking at the odds for other teams to be relegated, 9-1 is a midtable finish. Derby 8-13, Peterborough 5-2, Blackpool and Huddersfield 11-4, Coventry and Hull 3-1, on Skybet 10-1 is 12th place, solidly mid table.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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12/1 Relegation on 16:47 - Aug 6 with 1850 viewsBadlands

12/1 Relegation on 10:16 - Aug 6 by angryjack

They never spent it the club did..the club runs itself they not put nothing in only loans which they will get back with interest,,


How much of their own money did the other 39% of the club's owners put in? Have ever put in in beyond the initial purchase?

As for, 'Obviously none of us want it to happen … (relegation) Paul, feller, be honest you would love us to be relegated.

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12/1 Relegation on 18:06 - Aug 6 with 1797 viewsangryjack

12/1 Relegation on 13:58 - Aug 6 by andypitt56

They have run it in the same manner as the previous board but because they are a group of american investors and not a group from swansea, you get this tripe that they are taking money out of the club when there is 0 evidence to support the claims. I'm not saying they are brilliant owners but people need to stop peddling the bull crap.


B.s.the previous owners broke our transfer record last time we were in championship these tw@ts just want injured free bees
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12/1 Relegation on 18:08 - Aug 6 with 1794 viewsReslovenSwan1

12/1 Relegation on 18:06 - Aug 6 by angryjack

B.s.the previous owners broke our transfer record last time we were in championship these tw@ts just want injured free bees


Piroe probably cost more than Jason Scotland.

Wise sage since Toshack era

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12/1 Relegation on 07:41 - Aug 7 with 1584 viewsangryjack

12/1 Relegation on 18:08 - Aug 6 by ReslovenSwan1

Piroe probably cost more than Jason Scotland.


Jason Scotland was league 1 mate
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12/1 Relegation on 10:30 - Aug 7 with 1530 viewsDr_Winston

12/1 Relegation on 07:41 - Aug 7 by angryjack

Jason Scotland was league 1 mate


Jason Scotland was signed from Scotland. And scored 24 Championship goals for us.

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12/1 Relegation on 10:45 - Aug 7 with 1518 viewsBrynmill_Jack

12/1 Relegation on 10:30 - Aug 7 by Dr_Winston

Jason Scotland was signed from Scotland. And scored 24 Championship goals for us.


If it’s not Dhanda related he’s not very interested. Must do research.
Scotland was the epitome of a bargain striker more than paying back his outlay - and then some. Shankland has as much potential- maybe more. I hope we get him.

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12/1 Relegation on 12:46 - Aug 7 with 1482 viewsangryjack

12/1 Relegation on 10:30 - Aug 7 by Dr_Winston

Jason Scotland was signed from Scotland. And scored 24 Championship goals for us.


But he signed when in league 1 martinet signed him that's what I'm saying ...we broke our transfer record twice last time we were in championship on Cotterell and beattie
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12/1 Relegation on 12:56 - Aug 7 with 1465 viewsraynor94

12/1 Relegation on 12:46 - Aug 7 by angryjack

But he signed when in league 1 martinet signed him that's what I'm saying ...we broke our transfer record twice last time we were in championship on Cotterell and beattie


And how did that turn out? They were both duds, nobody apart from the relegated teams are spending.

I don't know if you have noticed but there's been a pandemic for the last 18 months, yet we are one of the few teams in this league making a profit.

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12/1 Relegation on 10:59 - Aug 29 with 1091 viewspikeypaul

Hope you got on lads, 7/2 William Hill now.

The price was only ever going one way, with the hedge fund unwilling to spend a cent and cream off all the incomings,a healthy profit can be pocketed now, although I think I’ll run it out a little longer can see us hitting 2/1 before Christmas.

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