| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles 17:47 - Aug 10 with 1700 views | raynor94 |
Shocking news coming from the Mumbles, it hit a tree and had the front of the upper deck ripped off.
Air ambulance there and quite a few injuries |  |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 18:04 - Aug 10 with 1655 views | Treforys_Jack |
Shite, fingers crossed there are only minor injuries. |  | | |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 19:39 - Aug 10 with 1514 views | Private_Partz |
That tree looks like it is leaning into the road....
I posted this on t'other site:
I was about 50 yards away when it happened. Mrs Partz and the grandkids were with me. A horrible crunch then loads of shrieking and screaming.
Never seen so many emergency services once they got though the traffic. 3 fire engines, 6 police cars. 2 ambulances, 3 paramedics and the air ambulance.
Great news that no life changing or threatening injuries occurred. I do worry for the poor soul that was airlifted to the Heath neurology dept. though. That does sound serious.
How the hell did it happen? The driver too near the kerb? He should be able to scuff it without taking the roof off. Sadly I fear cuts to LA services have contributed here. Tree maintenance seems to be like drainage maintenance. Reaction only as the staff are no longer there to do the planned stuff.
Serous questions will be asked though of both the LA and First Cymru.... |  |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 08:59 - Aug 11 with 1382 views | angryjack |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 19:39 - Aug 10 by Private_Partz |
That tree looks like it is leaning into the road....
I posted this on t'other site:
I was about 50 yards away when it happened. Mrs Partz and the grandkids were with me. A horrible crunch then loads of shrieking and screaming.
Never seen so many emergency services once they got though the traffic. 3 fire engines, 6 police cars. 2 ambulances, 3 paramedics and the air ambulance.
Great news that no life changing or threatening injuries occurred. I do worry for the poor soul that was airlifted to the Heath neurology dept. though. That does sound serious.
How the hell did it happen? The driver too near the kerb? He should be able to scuff it without taking the roof off. Sadly I fear cuts to LA services have contributed here. Tree maintenance seems to be like drainage maintenance. Reaction only as the staff are no longer there to do the planned stuff.
Serous questions will be asked though of both the LA and First Cymru.... |
That bus makes that route couple times a day every day its up to the driver of high sided vehicles to watch out for hazards ,unfortunately it will be drivers fault,even though its an accident |  | | |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 09:19 - Aug 11 with 1367 views | Catullus |
When I was a kid living in Mumbles and often down the seafront you'd regularly hear the noise of buses roofs catching the branches of these trees., There'd often be foliage on the roads too.
Blaming the driver would be harsh unless there are height warning signs and the buses can't stay far enough away from the kerb if there's oncoming traffic.
The LA needs to lop these trees back and keep an eye on them. | |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 09:31 - Aug 11 with 1364 views | raynor94 |
The state of trees and greenery around the City are disgraceful, but surely a risk assessment has been carried out on that route, but there's no way a tree like that should be hanging over the road | |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 09:52 - Aug 11 with 1349 views | Whiterockin |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 09:31 - Aug 11 by raynor94 |
The state of trees and greenery around the City are disgraceful, but surely a risk assessment has been carried out on that route, but there's no way a tree like that should be hanging over the road |
I would imagine the inquiry that is bound to take place will deem who is responsible for the cause of the accident. Insurance companies will not pay out unless they have too. |  | | |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 14:56 - Aug 11 with 1243 views | pikeypaul |
I walked past the tree this morning.
Interestingly the open decker bus #1 similar to the one that crashed yesterday is still running the same route, and no the tree has not yet been cut back.
Also only one passenger upstairs this morning, when I normally see it there are 9 or 10. [Post edited 11 Aug 2021 15:00]
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 16:59 - Aug 11 with 1192 views | britferry |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 19:50 - Aug 11 with 1132 views | Private_Partz |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 08:59 - Aug 11 by angryjack |
That bus makes that route couple times a day every day its up to the driver of high sided vehicles to watch out for hazards ,unfortunately it will be drivers fault,even though its an accident |
Cant see that. There will be different drivers on the route. If there is a tree hazard that can take the roof off a bus then it should be addressed before the route is set up. You want the driver looking at the road ahead not up in the sky every time he passes a tree.
On top of this we have massive driver shortages with routes being cancelled right, left and centre. Even less likelihood of continuity.
I would only blame the driver if he mounted a kerb. Even then you have to allow for errors by other road users.
I hope the resultant enquiry is fair and detailed. | |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 06:36 - Aug 12 with 1042 views | pikeypaul |
In the Swansea to Limeslade direction it was running every 30 mins, it is now every 60, presumably since they have one of the vehicles off the road.
They start from the Quadrant at 08:50 and finish at 17:50.
The powers that be are obviously pretty confident that the route SHOULD be safe to continue the service after the accident on Tuesday even though the tree has not been cut back and I saw the bus pass it yesterday morning.
Something coming from the opposite direction may have forced the driver to go to far in or it may have occurred through other reasons,who knows. [Post edited 12 Aug 2021 6:40]
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 15:24 - Aug 12 with 955 views | Catullus |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 06:36 - Aug 12 by pikeypaul |
In the Swansea to Limeslade direction it was running every 30 mins, it is now every 60, presumably since they have one of the vehicles off the road.
They start from the Quadrant at 08:50 and finish at 17:50.
The powers that be are obviously pretty confident that the route SHOULD be safe to continue the service after the accident on Tuesday even though the tree has not been cut back and I saw the bus pass it yesterday morning.
Something coming from the opposite direction may have forced the driver to go to far in or it may have occurred through other reasons,who knows. [Post edited 12 Aug 2021 6:40]
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The last line might nail it, if a car is too far over or maybe a larger vehicle was coming the driver may have stayed further left.
The trees need to be lopped back far enough so any large vehicle can pass by safely in any traffic circumstance.
They've known about these trees for a long time, what is the excuse for not making sure the route/road is safe for traffic? | |
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 20:28 - Aug 12 with 900 views | Private_Partz |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 09:19 - Aug 11 by Catullus |
When I was a kid living in Mumbles and often down the seafront you'd regularly hear the noise of buses roofs catching the branches of these trees., There'd often be foliage on the roads too.
Blaming the driver would be harsh unless there are height warning signs and the buses can't stay far enough away from the kerb if there's oncoming traffic.
The LA needs to lop these trees back and keep an eye on them. |
Spot on. The driver is most certainly not my 'go to' for blame here. There are countless examples of tree and general foliage maintenance almost being abandoned across the LA.
If a route, that is normally run by single deckers, switches to double then there should be a duty if care to the passengers to risk asses that route. Including the maintenance of trees to ensure the vehicle is not impeded. [Post edited 12 Aug 2021 20:36]
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| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 20:31 - Aug 12 with 899 views | Private_Partz |
| Open top bus crashes in Mumbles on 14:56 - Aug 11 by pikeypaul |
I walked past the tree this morning.
Interestingly the open decker bus #1 similar to the one that crashed yesterday is still running the same route, and no the tree has not yet been cut back.
Also only one passenger upstairs this morning, when I normally see it there are 9 or 10. [Post edited 11 Aug 2021 15:00]
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If it was not driver error then that is shocking. | |
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