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Afghanistan ? 17:32 - Aug 11 with 11668 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Pull your troops out after 20 years of attempted westernisation and leave the Taliban to deal with those who were westernised.

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Afghanistan ? on 10:31 - Aug 20 with 1105 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 21:13 - Aug 19 by Oldjack

yea 20 years creating a fighting force to protect their own country, which they pathetically failed to do. We can't stay there forever this was a correct decision to pull out . Trouble is the Taliban we already in the cities disguised as cillivallns,one phone call and they got a van full of armory on its way to them . Those Taliban are right sneaky bastards .The yanks and brits fuked up big time by not spotting what the devious bastards were up to all the time


You don't understand the psyche of the Afghans. They are not westerners. They don't understand the concept of national unity or national identity.It's a tribal country and their loyalty is to their locality and family.They don't give a shit who is president and they don't understand or want the concept of democracy.

The only way to get the loyalty of an Afghan is to pay them more than anyone else does.They were happy to take US dollars , and when the Americans withdrew support they left and went back to their families.

The British learned this the hard way in 1842 when they stopped paying the tribal warlords to keep the Kyber pass open.They drove the British out.

No disrespect, but you need to get clued up about the history of the country and it's ppl instead of just making general ignorant blanket statements.
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Afghanistan ? on 14:28 - Aug 20 with 1059 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Afghanistan ? on 10:31 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack

You don't understand the psyche of the Afghans. They are not westerners. They don't understand the concept of national unity or national identity.It's a tribal country and their loyalty is to their locality and family.They don't give a shit who is president and they don't understand or want the concept of democracy.

The only way to get the loyalty of an Afghan is to pay them more than anyone else does.They were happy to take US dollars , and when the Americans withdrew support they left and went back to their families.

The British learned this the hard way in 1842 when they stopped paying the tribal warlords to keep the Kyber pass open.They drove the British out.

No disrespect, but you need to get clued up about the history of the country and it's ppl instead of just making general ignorant blanket statements.


Anyone who has spent a bit of time in the Middle East will know that the culture ( how things are done ) is totally different from what we expect in our country.

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Afghanistan ? on 18:03 - Aug 20 with 1026 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 14:28 - Aug 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Anyone who has spent a bit of time in the Middle East will know that the culture ( how things are done ) is totally different from what we expect in our country.


Yes, but it's not really the middle east, it's classed as Central Asia which is different again
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Afghanistan ? on 18:49 - Aug 20 with 1011 viewsOldjack

Afghanistan ? on 10:31 - Aug 20 by controversial_jack

You don't understand the psyche of the Afghans. They are not westerners. They don't understand the concept of national unity or national identity.It's a tribal country and their loyalty is to their locality and family.They don't give a shit who is president and they don't understand or want the concept of democracy.

The only way to get the loyalty of an Afghan is to pay them more than anyone else does.They were happy to take US dollars , and when the Americans withdrew support they left and went back to their families.

The British learned this the hard way in 1842 when they stopped paying the tribal warlords to keep the Kyber pass open.They drove the British out.

No disrespect, but you need to get clued up about the history of the country and it's ppl instead of just making general ignorant blanket statements.


The Taliban are heathens. The Afghans have tasted freedom and the western way of life, I can see a civil war breaking out

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Afghanistan ? on 20:57 - Aug 20 with 977 viewsmajorraglan

Afghanistan ? on 18:49 - Aug 20 by Oldjack

The Taliban are heathens. The Afghans have tasted freedom and the western way of life, I can see a civil war breaking out


You may be right, but with Pakistan supporting the Taliban and potentially the Russians arming them any rebels will need to be well armed.
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Afghanistan ? on 22:16 - Aug 20 with 960 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan ? on 18:49 - Aug 20 by Oldjack

The Taliban are heathens. The Afghans have tasted freedom and the western way of life, I can see a civil war breaking out


Religion eh
God v Allah

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Afghanistan ? on 22:31 - Aug 20 with 954 viewsKilkennyjack


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Afghanistan ? on 22:45 - Aug 20 with 946 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Afghanistan ? on 22:31 - Aug 20 by Kilkennyjack



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Afghanistan ? on 10:34 - Aug 21 with 901 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 22:16 - Aug 20 by onehunglow

Religion eh
God v Allah


God and Allah are the same. Allah, is the Arabic name for God.There is nothing religious about the Taliban either.
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Afghanistan ? on 10:42 - Aug 21 with 890 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 20:57 - Aug 20 by majorraglan

You may be right, but with Pakistan supporting the Taliban and potentially the Russians arming them any rebels will need to be well armed.


Pakistan are not supporting the Taliban . Pakistani troops were on the frontline against them. Russia is not arming the Taliban, they have got everything they need the deserting Americans.
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Afghanistan ? on 13:11 - Aug 21 with 871 viewsmajorraglan

Afghanistan ? on 10:42 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

Pakistan are not supporting the Taliban . Pakistani troops were on the frontline against them. Russia is not arming the Taliban, they have got everything they need the deserting Americans.


If you look on line there are numerous reports of Pakistan’s ISI security services, business people and some politicians supporting the Taliban, it’s the same with Russia. There’s no doubt they’ll have access to American weapons, but the Russians have been engaging and supporting the Taliban because they want the West out of Central Asia.

The Russians have supported Assad in Syria too because it’s given them a strategic advantage, their Navy now has access to ports in the Mediterranean something they never previously had.
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Afghanistan ? on 16:12 - Aug 21 with 825 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 13:11 - Aug 21 by majorraglan

If you look on line there are numerous reports of Pakistan’s ISI security services, business people and some politicians supporting the Taliban, it’s the same with Russia. There’s no doubt they’ll have access to American weapons, but the Russians have been engaging and supporting the Taliban because they want the West out of Central Asia.

The Russians have supported Assad in Syria too because it’s given them a strategic advantage, their Navy now has access to ports in the Mediterranean something they never previously had.


I don't buy it sorry. It's always Russia the bad guys and the west the good ones.

It is true the Russians backed Assad, because the west backed the rebels who tried to overthrow Assad

Russia has no access to the med through Syria, as there are many countries between Syria and Russia, so unless Russia has a permanent naval base in Syria then that's not a possibility.They already have that through their annexation of the Crimea

There's no evidence Russia is backing the Taliban in Afghanistan either
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Afghanistan ? on 17:45 - Aug 21 with 805 viewsmajorraglan

Afghanistan ? on 16:12 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

I don't buy it sorry. It's always Russia the bad guys and the west the good ones.

It is true the Russians backed Assad, because the west backed the rebels who tried to overthrow Assad

Russia has no access to the med through Syria, as there are many countries between Syria and Russia, so unless Russia has a permanent naval base in Syria then that's not a possibility.They already have that through their annexation of the Crimea

There's no evidence Russia is backing the Taliban in Afghanistan either


Not saying the West aren't beyond reproach, but the Russians are no angels and pursue their own agenda and promote their interests.

The Syrians have ports the Russians can access, while you are right about the Crimea offering potential access any warships seeking to pass through the straits have to have permission from Turkey, no permission equals no access.

There are numerous reports regarding Russia arming the Taliban,I don’t have any evidence but I’d suggest the British General who went public on this did.
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Afghanistan ? on 21:03 - Aug 21 with 776 viewsOldjack

Afghanistan ? on 22:16 - Aug 20 by onehunglow

Religion eh
God v Allah


Gods are no more than fairy stories ,the sooner people start believing this can't come soon enough

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Afghanistan ? on 21:03 - Aug 21 with 776 viewsCatullus

Afghanistan ? on 10:42 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

Pakistan are not supporting the Taliban . Pakistani troops were on the frontline against them. Russia is not arming the Taliban, they have got everything they need the deserting Americans.


Where was Osama Bin Laden hiding?

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm

https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210818-pakistan-cheers-taliban-out-of

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/18/pakistan-hand-taliban-victory/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41500068

https://time.com/6091251/afghanistan-taliban-takeover-pakistan/

On the point about the Taliban not being religious, they want Sharia law, their version of Sharia derived from the more extreme Islamic beliefs they hold. It is religion. The Taliban are religious students from the Pashtun areas of Eastern and Southern Afghanistan who were educated in traditional Islamic schools in Pakistan. They are Tajib, Tajik and Uzbek, they refer to themselves as the 'Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan' according to Wiki anyway.

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Afghanistan ? on 21:31 - Aug 21 with 769 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 21:03 - Aug 21 by Catullus

Where was Osama Bin Laden hiding?

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm

https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210818-pakistan-cheers-taliban-out-of

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/18/pakistan-hand-taliban-victory/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41500068

https://time.com/6091251/afghanistan-taliban-takeover-pakistan/

On the point about the Taliban not being religious, they want Sharia law, their version of Sharia derived from the more extreme Islamic beliefs they hold. It is religion. The Taliban are religious students from the Pashtun areas of Eastern and Southern Afghanistan who were educated in traditional Islamic schools in Pakistan. They are Tajib, Tajik and Uzbek, they refer to themselves as the 'Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan' according to Wiki anyway.


It doesn't mean Pakistan support the Taliban as Bin Laden was in the country. Bin Laden had nothing to do with the Taliban.

Sharia law has nothing to do with following any religion,The Taliban is as far removed from Islam as we are from christianity
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Afghanistan ? on 21:45 - Aug 21 with 762 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan ? on 10:34 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

God and Allah are the same. Allah, is the Arabic name for God.There is nothing religious about the Taliban either.


No they are not.
Allah is a deity as seen by Muslim
God by Christians

Bible and Quran are different in many ways


Both subjugate females but Islam more so


That which Taliban live by is ALL quran based .

Ergo it is ALL religion based whether you believe it or not.

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Afghanistan ? on 22:02 - Aug 21 with 757 viewslondonlisa2001

Afghanistan ? on 21:45 - Aug 21 by onehunglow

No they are not.
Allah is a deity as seen by Muslim
God by Christians

Bible and Quran are different in many ways


Both subjugate females but Islam more so


That which Taliban live by is ALL quran based .

Ergo it is ALL religion based whether you believe it or not.


They are.

The God of Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the same God. Just different languages.

They are all Abrahamic faiths. Which is why all have Jerusalem as their holy city.
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Afghanistan ? on 23:04 - Aug 21 with 743 viewsmajorraglan

Afghanistan ? on 21:31 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

It doesn't mean Pakistan support the Taliban as Bin Laden was in the country. Bin Laden had nothing to do with the Taliban.

Sharia law has nothing to do with following any religion,The Taliban is as far removed from Islam as we are from christianity


Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were in Afghanistan when the Taliban were lay in power, they had training camps in the country.

Sharia Law is Islam’s legal system and is derived from the Quran as well as the Sunnah and Hadith, which are the deeds and sayings of the prophet Muhammad.
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Afghanistan ? on 07:47 - Aug 22 with 692 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Islam forbids murder not that it has ever stopped all branches of Islam from murdering each other.

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Afghanistan ? on 08:44 - Aug 22 with 682 viewsBoundy

Afghanistan ? on 21:31 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack

It doesn't mean Pakistan support the Taliban as Bin Laden was in the country. Bin Laden had nothing to do with the Taliban.

Sharia law has nothing to do with following any religion,The Taliban is as far removed from Islam as we are from christianity


"Sharia law has nothing to do with following any religion,The Taliban is as far removed from Islam as we are from christianity" Honestly ?

For the application of personal status laws, there are three separate sections: Sunni, Shia and non-Muslim. The Law of 16 July 1962 declares that Sharia governs personal status laws of Muslims, with Sunni and Ja'afari Shia jurisdiction of Sharia

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Afghanistan ? on 09:45 - Aug 22 with 666 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Tony Blair has crawled out from under his stone and said the US withdrawal from Afghanistan is unnecessary and tragic. What a hypocrite what was tragic was the USA and British invasion in the first place.

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Afghanistan ? on 10:09 - Aug 22 with 659 viewsonehunglow

Afghanistan ? on 22:02 - Aug 21 by londonlisa2001

They are.

The God of Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the same God. Just different languages.

They are all Abrahamic faiths. Which is why all have Jerusalem as their holy city.


Disagree Lisa.
Simple as that.

There is no God and all Deitys are figments of people's imaginations.

I can hear my old man drifting around in the Dustbowl in the sky regarding Allah being the same as his God.

If Jehovah God and Allah are the same then why cannot Jews and Muslims get it together. This shows the utmost stupidity of these Faiths.

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Afghanistan ? on 10:45 - Aug 22 with 644 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Afghanistan ? on 22:02 - Aug 21 by londonlisa2001

They are.

The God of Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the same God. Just different languages.

They are all Abrahamic faiths. Which is why all have Jerusalem as their holy city.


It is not really about the "God", it is about the interpretation of what the diety wants and says as written in the holy books.
Extremists will always look for something to justify their position and actions, even if taken out of context.
Only what they want to believe is the correct interpretation.
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Afghanistan ? on 12:41 - Aug 22 with 622 viewscontroversial_jack

Afghanistan ? on 08:44 - Aug 22 by Boundy

"Sharia law has nothing to do with following any religion,The Taliban is as far removed from Islam as we are from christianity" Honestly ?

For the application of personal status laws, there are three separate sections: Sunni, Shia and non-Muslim. The Law of 16 July 1962 declares that Sharia governs personal status laws of Muslims, with Sunni and Ja'afari Shia jurisdiction of Sharia


The Taliban are just thugs. Not all islamic countries follow Sharia, it's not e requisite, just as this country has separated church from govt. Iraq under Saddam was secular
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