| Wales and Climate change 21:51 - Aug 18 with 2694 views | Flashberryjack |
Gas boilers will be abandoned in Wales with no-one using one by 2030, Wales' climate change minister Julie James has said. |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 22:07 - Aug 18 with 2098 views | Boundy |
Glad I've got massive wood burning stove and fire pit then , |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 22:20 - Aug 18 with 2085 views | majorraglan |
Cant see it to be honest. It’s very aspirational and can’t be done without significant resource input from Westminster, who may not buy in to this. Electric cars is one thing, but I wouldn’t have thought the National Grid could cope with cars, heating and general use without major investment. [Post edited 19 Aug 2021 21:53]
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| Wales and Climate change on 22:50 - Aug 18 with 2068 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:20 - Aug 18 by majorraglan |
Cant see it to be honest. It’s very aspirational and can’t be done without significant resource input from Westminster, who may not buy in to this. Electric cars is one thing, but I wouldn’t have thought the National Grid could cope with cars, heating and general use without major investment. [Post edited 19 Aug 2021 21:53]
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Well on this one …. there is the cost of dealing with all the floods, fires and storms vs the cost of changing the way we all live to stop these acts of nature.
There is a cost to all this - and we cant duck it even if we wanted to. |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 22:52 - Aug 18 with 2070 views | controversial_jack |
What are we getting instead of gas boilers? Heat pumps are too expensive and separate hot water tanks are need so i believe. | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 23:03 - Aug 18 with 2057 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
We need a coordinated approach on these matters or we will end up with failed policies, cars, boilers, woodburners etc.
My guess is this will end up in an unaffordable mess with costs pushed down to householders. |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:27 - Aug 18 with 2051 views | Catullus |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:52 - Aug 18 by controversial_jack |
What are we getting instead of gas boilers? Heat pumps are too expensive and separate hot water tanks are need so i believe. |
A water tank needed eh, tht's ok then, we moved in here 22 months agoand it still has an emersion tank and back boiler. We were going to get a Combi but as long as this old thing is still working ok there's no poiint. Wait til 2030 and see what the Senedd does. Getting a Combi here would be quite expensive apparently. We asked about a grant but they weren't giving them to replace back boilers because it's more expensive.
All of that above is probably pointless, this idea will probably not be realised for much longer. The cost of it and the organisation needed, the Senedd won't do it. Not unless a lot changes there in the next few years. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:32 - Aug 18 with 2045 views | max936 |
Hydrogen is far more dangerous mind. |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:35 - Aug 18 with 2041 views | max936 |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:20 - Aug 18 by majorraglan |
Cant see it to be honest. It’s very aspirational and can’t be done without significant resource input from Westminster, who may not buy in to this. Electric cars is one thing, but I wouldn’t have thought the National Grid could cope with cars, heating and general use without major investment. [Post edited 19 Aug 2021 21:53]
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Some new housing estates if not all are gas free now, economy 7 and economy 10 Tarrifs rule. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:36 - Aug 18 with 2039 views | max936 |
| Wales and Climate change on 23:03 - Aug 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
We need a coordinated approach on these matters or we will end up with failed policies, cars, boilers, woodburners etc.
My guess is this will end up in an unaffordable mess with costs pushed down to householders. |
Nothing new there then,  | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:42 - Aug 18 with 2036 views | max936 |
| Wales and Climate change on 23:27 - Aug 18 by Catullus |
A water tank needed eh, tht's ok then, we moved in here 22 months agoand it still has an emersion tank and back boiler. We were going to get a Combi but as long as this old thing is still working ok there's no poiint. Wait til 2030 and see what the Senedd does. Getting a Combi here would be quite expensive apparently. We asked about a grant but they weren't giving them to replace back boilers because it's more expensive.
All of that above is probably pointless, this idea will probably not be realised for much longer. The cost of it and the organisation needed, the Senedd won't do it. Not unless a lot changes there in the next few years. |
Just keep that back boiler regularly serviced and it’ll be fine for a few more yrds or more, worse thing l ever did was to rip ours out and fit a combi, IMO
Problem arises when you can’t get parts, take a photo of the data badge on boiler and search internet for parts, don’t get fobbed off, by gas fitters saying parts are now obsolete, most are not, trust me. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 08:36 - Aug 19 with 1942 views | Dr_Winston |
I just had a brand new combi boiler installed, so unless the WG wants to buy me a new electric one they can piss off. |  |
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| Wales and Climate change on 09:40 - Aug 19 with 1918 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Wales and Climate change on 08:36 - Aug 19 by Dr_Winston |
I just had a brand new combi boiler installed, so unless the WG wants to buy me a new electric one they can piss off. |
Having read the interview with Julie James, it appears that there is no clear strategy or plan. If she's looking at decarbonisation of the supply then that means the whole of the national grid.
I think you boiler looks secure. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 10:19 - Aug 19 with 1901 views | Boundy |
| Wales and Climate change on 09:40 - Aug 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Having read the interview with Julie James, it appears that there is no clear strategy or plan. If she's looking at decarbonisation of the supply then that means the whole of the national grid.
I think you boiler looks secure. |
no plan now there's a surprise, just more sound bites to appease those who were dull enough to vote for them . PS my neighbours car's still parked half on and off the pavement | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 10:25 - Aug 19 with 1893 views | majorraglan |
I think most people accept the climate is changing and that mankind needs to make changes - Wales needs to do its bit and we can do more, but in reality Wales is a small place in the grand scheme of things and there are countries out there who are much further behind us and have a lot to do to catch up with us. | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 11:06 - Aug 19 with 1869 views | Catullus |
| Wales and Climate change on 23:42 - Aug 18 by max936 |
Just keep that back boiler regularly serviced and it’ll be fine for a few more yrds or more, worse thing l ever did was to rip ours out and fit a combi, IMO
Problem arises when you can’t get parts, take a photo of the data badge on boiler and search internet for parts, don’t get fobbed off, by gas fitters saying parts are now obsolete, most are not, trust me. |
Thanks Max. I have a friend who services our boiler so I won't get ripped off but you always have to be careful. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 12:24 - Aug 19 with 1855 views | controversial_jack |
| Wales and Climate change on 10:25 - Aug 19 by majorraglan |
I think most people accept the climate is changing and that mankind needs to make changes - Wales needs to do its bit and we can do more, but in reality Wales is a small place in the grand scheme of things and there are countries out there who are much further behind us and have a lot to do to catch up with us. |
I don't accept it. It's a load of nonsense. | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 15:00 - Aug 19 with 1817 views | Whiterockin |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:20 - Aug 18 by majorraglan |
Cant see it to be honest. It’s very aspirational and can’t be done without significant resource input from Westminster, who may not buy in to this. Electric cars is one thing, but I wouldn’t have thought the National Grid could cope with cars, heating and general use without major investment. [Post edited 19 Aug 2021 21:53]
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We do not have the infrastructure to provide enough electricity to supply what we have and electric cars. This is not well thought out if they think we can heat our homes and businesses as well within 9 years.
Never mind if every person in Wales plants 30 trees each we will be fine.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/welsh-government-tree-planting-clima |  | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 15:16 - Aug 19 with 1803 views | onehunglow |
Not much sign of much warming here of late | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 18:58 - Aug 19 with 1747 views | Catullus |
| Wales and Climate change on 12:24 - Aug 19 by controversial_jack |
I don't accept it. It's a load of nonsense. |
Maybe ask the Greeks or Turks who have lost everything to these unprecendented fires?
Maybe ask the experts who tell us we are destroying habitats and pushing creatures towards extinction at an alarming rate. The Bees, if they go extinct we are screwed and man made pesticides are killing them off. Ask the birds that used to live in the thousands of miles of hedgrows that have ripped up for industrial farming. Take a swim in the expanding dead zones cuased by agricultural run off into the sea, there's a big one in the Baltic. Sharks and Whales, all in serious decline and they are top of their food chain, we are destroying them.
The world needs to be in balance and we have knocked it off balance. Deny it all you like but it's our kids and grandkids who will have to live with the consequences. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 19:42 - Aug 19 with 1727 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:07 - Aug 18 by Boundy |
Glad I've got massive wood burning stove and fire pit then , |
New laws could see burning traditional house coal banned entirely in Wales within two years.
The Welsh Government also wants the sale of wet wood for home fires to be heavily restricted in a bid to tackle air pollution.
The proposals are part of a consultation published alongside plans for a new clean air law for Wales.
Only the most efficient and least polluting wood burning stoves could soon be available to buy and install.
Under the proposed Clean Air Bill in Wales, new air quality targets would be set by ministers and a requirement for a review of plans to tackle air pollution every five years. | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 19:55 - Aug 19 with 1717 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Wales and Climate change on 18:58 - Aug 19 by Catullus |
Maybe ask the Greeks or Turks who have lost everything to these unprecendented fires?
Maybe ask the experts who tell us we are destroying habitats and pushing creatures towards extinction at an alarming rate. The Bees, if they go extinct we are screwed and man made pesticides are killing them off. Ask the birds that used to live in the thousands of miles of hedgrows that have ripped up for industrial farming. Take a swim in the expanding dead zones cuased by agricultural run off into the sea, there's a big one in the Baltic. Sharks and Whales, all in serious decline and they are top of their food chain, we are destroying them.
The world needs to be in balance and we have knocked it off balance. Deny it all you like but it's our kids and grandkids who will have to live with the consequences. |
And you just confirmed exactly what he said. | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 20:57 - Aug 19 with 1690 views | Scotia |
| Wales and Climate change on 12:24 - Aug 19 by controversial_jack |
I don't accept it. It's a load of nonsense. |
Just like the vaccines don't work? | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 21:04 - Aug 19 with 1684 views | BarrySwan |
| Wales and Climate change on 22:52 - Aug 18 by controversial_jack |
What are we getting instead of gas boilers? Heat pumps are too expensive and separate hot water tanks are need so i believe. |
And don't really work to any great degree anyway.
Never mind....... the virtue signalling politicians spouting this nonsense will be able to afford to heat their homes while the rest of us freeze. | | | |
| Wales and Climate change on 21:38 - Aug 19 with 1667 views | Boundy |
| Wales and Climate change on 19:42 - Aug 19 by Flashberryjack |
New laws could see burning traditional house coal banned entirely in Wales within two years.
The Welsh Government also wants the sale of wet wood for home fires to be heavily restricted in a bid to tackle air pollution.
The proposals are part of a consultation published alongside plans for a new clean air law for Wales.
Only the most efficient and least polluting wood burning stoves could soon be available to buy and install.
Under the proposed Clean Air Bill in Wales, new air quality targets would be set by ministers and a requirement for a review of plans to tackle air pollution every five years. |
Thanks for the info, I was being sarcastic but you weren't to know . I do have a stove though | |
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| Wales and Climate change on 23:00 - Aug 19 with 1627 views | builthjack |
Wear a few more layers. |  |
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