| Emma Raducanu 19:17 - Sep 8 with 5032 views | trampie |
Emma into the semis of the US Open tennis, I don't think a qualifier has ever reached any of the Grand Slam finals, Emma could do it. |  |
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| Emma Raducanu on 08:51 - Sep 10 with 732 views | trampie |
No one is saying that Dustin Brown is a better player than Nadal but Raducanu is better than Sakkari and now Raducanu is in a Grand Slam singles final. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:00 - Sep 10 with 711 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 08:51 - Sep 10 by trampie |
No one is saying that Dustin Brown is a better player than Nadal but Raducanu is better than Sakkari and now Raducanu is in a Grand Slam singles final. |
You made the point she proved she was better because she beat her, once.
I am saying that it is irrelevant as used Dustin Browns 2-0 record over Nadal to highlight that point.
Raducanu has 3 ITF titles to her name, Sakkari has 8. Both left ITF level roughly the same age. Raducanu hasn't got to the quarter finals or further of any other WTA main tour event other than this one.
She is having an excellent tournament, but its naïve to say she is better than players currently in the top 20 who have consistently performed year in year out. Once she does that, she can stake a claim. |  |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:17 - Sep 10 with 674 views | Glossolalia |
Really excellent from an intelligent, down-to earth young woman. I only hope that she stays humble and doesn't do a Eugenie Bouchard. Being a gifted youngster is one thing, but maintaining course is another, especially with the typically hyperbolic, fawning media ready to pump up anyone's ego. Rusedski called the performance 'worthy of a world-number-one, multiple-grand-slam player'. Cool it, Greg. It was a superb performance from a youngster feeling no pressure. I really hope she wins on Saturday.
As for Dustin Brown, I remember his wins at Halle against Nadal. Caught him cold and at the right time, straight after the switch from clay to grass. The man is crazy! |  | | |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:17 - Sep 10 with 671 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:00 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
You made the point she proved she was better because she beat her, once.
I am saying that it is irrelevant as used Dustin Browns 2-0 record over Nadal to highlight that point.
Raducanu has 3 ITF titles to her name, Sakkari has 8. Both left ITF level roughly the same age. Raducanu hasn't got to the quarter finals or further of any other WTA main tour event other than this one.
She is having an excellent tournament, but its naïve to say she is better than players currently in the top 20 who have consistently performed year in year out. Once she does that, she can stake a claim. |
Emma is 18 and just starting out on the back of the covid pandemic affecting her playing schedule and her schooling also interrupting her schedule, what she is doing is amazing. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 with 664 views | Whiterockin |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:00 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
You made the point she proved she was better because she beat her, once.
I am saying that it is irrelevant as used Dustin Browns 2-0 record over Nadal to highlight that point.
Raducanu has 3 ITF titles to her name, Sakkari has 8. Both left ITF level roughly the same age. Raducanu hasn't got to the quarter finals or further of any other WTA main tour event other than this one.
She is having an excellent tournament, but its naïve to say she is better than players currently in the top 20 who have consistently performed year in year out. Once she does that, she can stake a claim. |
I have heard it said by several "experts" that Raducanu is far better than her ranking suggests, due to the fact that she has been unable to climb the rankings due to covid cancelations. |  | | |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 with 664 views | trampie |
Who do you think Dr P should be favourite to win the final between Raducanu and Fernandez and why ? | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 with 660 views | jackrmee |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:17 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Emma is 18 and just starting out on the back of the covid pandemic affecting her playing schedule and her schooling also interrupting her schedule, what she is doing is amazing. |
Awesome!
When is the final? |  |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:27 - Sep 10 with 653 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 by jackrmee |
Awesome!
When is the final? |
I heard it's 9 o'clock our time Saturday night, but you better check in case I heard wrong. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:30 - Sep 10 with 639 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:17 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Emma is 18 and just starting out on the back of the covid pandemic affecting her playing schedule and her schooling also interrupting her schedule, what she is doing is amazing. |
Sakkari was 18 once too and had three times as many titles.
Agree what she is doing is amazing this this week. But that needs to continue before anyone can accurately make any bold claims. We have seen it multiple times before, the only difference before is that Serena used to stop these players making Semis and Finals, now its a lot more open.
Jelena Ostapenko would be the most recent example. Won the French in 2017 at 19/20 years old, destined for stardom and now at 24 cant break into the top 25. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:32 - Sep 10 with 633 views | builthjack |
The girl has done very well, good luck in the final. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:33 - Sep 10 with 631 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin |
I have heard it said by several "experts" that Raducanu is far better than her ranking suggests, due to the fact that she has been unable to climb the rankings due to covid cancelations. |
Nothing to do with Covid cancellations, its due to the fact she was only able to enter 2 of the 4 Slams due to her ranking being so low, as well as performing poorly in other ranking events. She had to be given a wildcard into Wimbledon for example.
She is much better than her ranking suggests, absolutely. She is probably a top 30/25 player at this moment in time, her ranking is 150. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:38 - Sep 10 with 627 views | Whiterockin |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:33 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nothing to do with Covid cancellations, its due to the fact she was only able to enter 2 of the 4 Slams due to her ranking being so low, as well as performing poorly in other ranking events. She had to be given a wildcard into Wimbledon for example.
She is much better than her ranking suggests, absolutely. She is probably a top 30/25 player at this moment in time, her ranking is 150. |
Ok you know better than the experts. | | | |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:40 - Sep 10 with 619 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:19 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Who do you think Dr P should be favourite to win the final between Raducanu and Fernandez and why ? |
It's more of a question of why I made her favorite. You do realise that I drive the majority of the early tennis markets in Europe and Australasia, don't you? It's my job. Companies copy my odds and then the market arranges itself.
But alas, I made her favorite because Fernandez is a good style match up for Raducanu. Raducanu is comfortable trading from the back of the court which is what Laylah tends to do to opponents less comfortable to do so.
All players she has played so far (with the exception of Svitolina) have been power players. Kanepi, Osaka, Kerber, Sabalenka - they all hit massive ground strokes and Fernandez redirects that power to move them around.
Against Emma she will struggle to execute that game plan and will probably have to adapt it. It is the impending reliance on what will be an unfamiliar game plan which gives her the edge here. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:41 - Sep 10 with 614 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:38 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin |
Ok you know better than the experts. |
I am an expert, its my profession. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:45 - Sep 10 with 599 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:40 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
It's more of a question of why I made her favorite. You do realise that I drive the majority of the early tennis markets in Europe and Australasia, don't you? It's my job. Companies copy my odds and then the market arranges itself.
But alas, I made her favorite because Fernandez is a good style match up for Raducanu. Raducanu is comfortable trading from the back of the court which is what Laylah tends to do to opponents less comfortable to do so.
All players she has played so far (with the exception of Svitolina) have been power players. Kanepi, Osaka, Kerber, Sabalenka - they all hit massive ground strokes and Fernandez redirects that power to move them around.
Against Emma she will struggle to execute that game plan and will probably have to adapt it. It is the impending reliance on what will be an unfamiliar game plan which gives her the edge here. |
Don't the bookies have Raducanu as favourite to win the final Dr P ?, doesn't Fernandez have a higher world ranking, doesn't Fernandez have more wins against top 20 players than Raducanu, hasnt Fernandez been in two junior grand slam finals winning one of them, isn't Fernandez older and has more tennis experience than Raducanu, surely according to your logic you used for Sakkari being favourite to beat Raducanu then Fernandez should be the favourite to beat Raducanu but Raducanu is the favourite which goes against every single thing you have said. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:48 - Sep 10 with 590 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:41 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
I am an expert, its my profession. |
You are no expert you get everything wrong, as proved by you getting the Raducanu v Sakkari match spectacularly wrong, Raducanu won 6-1, 6-4 with no mitigating excuses, you could not have been more wrong if you tried, lol. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:51 - Sep 10 with 585 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:45 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Don't the bookies have Raducanu as favourite to win the final Dr P ?, doesn't Fernandez have a higher world ranking, doesn't Fernandez have more wins against top 20 players than Raducanu, hasnt Fernandez been in two junior grand slam finals winning one of them, isn't Fernandez older and has more tennis experience than Raducanu, surely according to your logic you used for Sakkari being favourite to beat Raducanu then Fernandez should be the favourite to beat Raducanu but Raducanu is the favourite which goes against every single thing you have said. |
I have no idea what you have just typed.
Raducanu has been on the tour for less time, of course she is going to have a lower ranking and less wins against top 20 players. Where did I mention beating top 20 players as the logic to correctly have Sakkari favorite?
The logic I used for making Sakkari favorite was that she was/is the better player and has proven it consistently. She is 26, multiple trips to the latter stages of Grand Slams and consistently in and around the top 20.
I have explained in perfect detail why I have made Raducanu favorite and absolutely none of it is at odds with my point regarding Sakkari. Raducanu also had more ITF level titles than Fernandez, so when playing at the same standard for any length of time - Raducanu has proven to be slightly more successful.
Sakkari was more successful than both at the ITF level of course.
Read it again would be my suggestion. [Post edited 10 Sep 2021 9:58]
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:53 - Sep 10 with 579 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:48 - Sep 10 by trampie |
You are no expert you get everything wrong, as proved by you getting the Raducanu v Sakkari match spectacularly wrong, Raducanu won 6-1, 6-4 with no mitigating excuses, you could not have been more wrong if you tried, lol. |
Where did I get it wrong? Can you point to anything? Or are you just being silly when you are forced to speak to someone who actually knows something on the subject of the waffle you spout?
Dustin Brown also beat Nadal twice, but I was correct to have Nadal favorite both those times too, as he will be again if they meet.
It was correct, as it always was... as it will always continue to be of course.
[Post edited 10 Sep 2021 9:55]
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| Emma Raducanu on 09:59 - Sep 10 with 564 views | trampie |
Why did you think that Sakkari would beat Raducanu Dr P ?, had you not watched both players in this tournament. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:05 - Sep 10 with 556 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 09:59 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Why did you think that Sakkari would beat Raducanu Dr P ?, had you not watched both players in this tournament. |
I didn't think she would beat her, that is your lack of understanding of the notion of odds again. I had no opinions on what was going to happen, only the probabilities of certain events to happen.
I would make ''Coin to land on either heads or to land on the side'' favorite against ''tails'' too, doesn't mean I think it will happen though, it is just the correct equation.
If you are asking me why I correctly made Sakkari favorite.. I explained that already.
Sakkari is the better player, when they have played at the same level for any recordable length of time - Sakkari has performed better. Sakkari has 8 ITF titles, Raducanu has 3 - both left that level at the same age.
Sakkari has proved since that she has longevity at the top echelons of the tour and has consistently put together excellent results. She is fitter, stronger and has a much more expansive game than Raducanu.
Raducanu may surpass what Sakkari has achieved in terms of consistency and longevity, but she has some way to go yet. [Post edited 10 Sep 2021 10:07]
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:10 - Sep 10 with 547 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 10:05 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
I didn't think she would beat her, that is your lack of understanding of the notion of odds again. I had no opinions on what was going to happen, only the probabilities of certain events to happen.
I would make ''Coin to land on either heads or to land on the side'' favorite against ''tails'' too, doesn't mean I think it will happen though, it is just the correct equation.
If you are asking me why I correctly made Sakkari favorite.. I explained that already.
Sakkari is the better player, when they have played at the same level for any recordable length of time - Sakkari has performed better. Sakkari has 8 ITF titles, Raducanu has 3 - both left that level at the same age.
Sakkari has proved since that she has longevity at the top echelons of the tour and has consistently put together excellent results. She is fitter, stronger and has a much more expansive game than Raducanu.
Raducanu may surpass what Sakkari has achieved in terms of consistency and longevity, but she has some way to go yet. [Post edited 10 Sep 2021 10:07]
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You had no opinion you say Dr P, I did have an opinion and I thought that Raducanu would beat Sakkari because Raducanu looked to be the better player during the tournament and that is how it turned out with Raducanu winning easily. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:13 - Sep 10 with 542 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 10:10 - Sep 10 by trampie |
You had no opinion you say Dr P, I did have an opinion and I thought that Raducanu would beat Sakkari because Raducanu looked to be the better player during the tournament and that is how it turned out with Raducanu winning easily. |
I do say, yes.
That opinion you had was correct on this occasion (it had 45.5% chance to be so hardly Nostradamus), however the opinion she should have been favorite is spectacularly wrong. Just the way it is. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:25 - Sep 10 with 523 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Although, just as a bit of housekeeping, at no point did you say she would win, only that she ''could'' win. Which is as obvious a statement as the sun coming up each day.
Let's get your guesses down on paper before they happen, then we will match them up against the probabilities listed. If you outperform the probabilities over a decent sample size, then come back to me. | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:27 - Sep 10 with 518 views | trampie |
| Emma Raducanu on 10:13 - Sep 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
I do say, yes.
That opinion you had was correct on this occasion (it had 45.5% chance to be so hardly Nostradamus), however the opinion she should have been favorite is spectacularly wrong. Just the way it is. |
You and your colleagues thought she had a 45.5% chance of winning I thought she 66.6% chance of winning and Raducanu did indeed win (6-1 6-4). | |
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| Emma Raducanu on 10:31 - Sep 10 with 516 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Emma Raducanu on 10:27 - Sep 10 by trampie |
You and your colleagues thought she had a 45.5% chance of winning I thought she 66.6% chance of winning and Raducanu did indeed win (6-1 6-4). |
1/2?? 
Which is why you would lose your money far more often than not, regardless of what you claim. That's just pure nonsense.
As I said, stick your guesses down on paper and we can compare how you perform vs the probabilities listed. I would love to see it, have your own thread, I'm sure Keith won't mind. Great entertainment value. | |
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