| Coventry City 21:58 - Sep 24 with 1645 views | raynor94 |
Win again tonight, Gyokeres scoring twice, fair play a great start to the season for them |  |
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| Coventry City on 22:01 - Sep 24 with 1287 views | 34dfgdf54 |
If only Cooper had a 9 last year.
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| Coventry City on 22:12 - Sep 24 with 1264 views | Dr_Winston |
Gyokeres had never played for England u17's, and was therefore useless to Cooper. |  |
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| Coventry City on 22:20 - Sep 24 with 1254 views | KeithHaynes |
The new Borja. |  |
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| Coventry City on 22:27 - Sep 24 with 1239 views | WalterBoyd |
Played 11 matches for us, no goals
Played 9 for Coventry this year 7 goals.
The above could be wrong.
Unfortunately when you get relegated from the Prem, best chance of going back up ( unless a Saudi oil Sheik comes along ) is when still receiving the parachute payments, so can afford to keep / buy quality players.
We missed the boat. Some would say # it up. |  | | |
| Coventry City on 22:41 - Sep 24 with 1214 views | magicdaps10 |
Gykores was obviously not used correctly by us last year but he was a Andy Scott signing. |  |
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| Coventry City on 22:48 - Sep 24 with 1202 views | Chief |
Easy to blame Cooper (predictable too).
But let's be honest, he should zero absolutely zero promise when he did play for us.
Are people really saying that either Ayew or Lowe should have been dropped to crowbar him in?
Coventry don't / didn't have a Lowe or an Ayew or weren't going for promotion last season, so it's a bit easier to accommodate and persist with a striker under those circumstances. He did only score 3 for them last season as well.
Who knows maybe he hit the gym pre-season or just likes the Midlands. That's football. |  |
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| Coventry City on 23:02 - Sep 24 with 1184 views | KeithHaynes |
| Coventry City on 22:48 - Sep 24 by Chief |
Easy to blame Cooper (predictable too).
But let's be honest, he should zero absolutely zero promise when he did play for us.
Are people really saying that either Ayew or Lowe should have been dropped to crowbar him in?
Coventry don't / didn't have a Lowe or an Ayew or weren't going for promotion last season, so it's a bit easier to accommodate and persist with a striker under those circumstances. He did only score 3 for them last season as well.
Who knows maybe he hit the gym pre-season or just likes the Midlands. That's football. |
I recall that header against Stevenage, goals were the same size, t felt to me like he needed five full games at Swansea to be where he is now at Coventry. | |
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| Coventry City on 23:13 - Sep 24 with 1161 views | max936 |
He's found his mojo and the right club then. |  |
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| Coventry City on 23:44 - Sep 24 with 1122 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Coventry City on 22:48 - Sep 24 by Chief |
Easy to blame Cooper (predictable too).
But let's be honest, he should zero absolutely zero promise when he did play for us.
Are people really saying that either Ayew or Lowe should have been dropped to crowbar him in?
Coventry don't / didn't have a Lowe or an Ayew or weren't going for promotion last season, so it's a bit easier to accommodate and persist with a striker under those circumstances. He did only score 3 for them last season as well.
Who knows maybe he hit the gym pre-season or just likes the Midlands. That's football. |
Easy to make excuses for the chances we wouldn’t creat for Gorkyres under Cooper . Neither Ayew or Lowe were orthodox strikers so they made the best of their own chances. I don’t think Piroe would thrive in a Cooper team. |  |
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| Coventry City on 00:12 - Sep 25 with 1095 views | JackDragon |
When you consider the number of games last season when Ayew and Lowe were running on empty, I think Gyokeres would probably have got plenty of minutes under his belt and who knows what might have happened then 🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸. STID | | | |
| Coventry City on 04:59 - Sep 25 with 1025 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 23:44 - Sep 24 by Brynmill_Jack |
Easy to make excuses for the chances we wouldn’t creat for Gorkyres under Cooper . Neither Ayew or Lowe were orthodox strikers so they made the best of their own chances. I don’t think Piroe would thrive in a Cooper team. |
Yes indeed Lowe and Ayew did. I don't believe there's any chance you swap out either for Gyorkeres and he scores as many at all. | |
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| Coventry City on 05:08 - Sep 25 with 1021 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 00:12 - Sep 25 by JackDragon |
When you consider the number of games last season when Ayew and Lowe were running on empty, I think Gyokeres would probably have got plenty of minutes under his belt and who knows what might have happened then 🤷ðŸ¼â€â™‚ï¸. STID |
Yea in an ideal world, but the 11 odd appearances he made for us up to January wasn't deemed satisfactory for him / Brighton so he was recalled. The tiredness obviously only really become a factor after he was recalled. Before January he made absolutely no impact in his appearances so dropping Ayew/Lowe who weren't tired & playing well isn't really a good idea.
And in January were signed Morris, who to me looked a better player from the glimpses and probably better suited to our style of play. Unfortunately he wasn't up to speed when we signed him & was injured after only 4 weeks of being with us.
Even after January he was a bit part player at Coventry. 19 appearances, only completing 90minutes twice, scoring 3 goals. Hardly prolific, not sure what prompted Coventry to sign him again - ultimately proved to be the correct decision, but it's not like Robins got much of a tune out of him last season either. | |
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| Coventry City on 09:43 - Sep 25 with 906 views | builthjack |
Perhaps judge him at the end of the season. |  |
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| Coventry City on 09:56 - Sep 25 with 891 views | NotLoyal |
| Coventry City on 09:43 - Sep 25 by builthjack |
Perhaps judge him at the end of the season. |
His dry spell will come, then let's see what he does. |  |
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| Coventry City on 10:23 - Sep 25 with 864 views | JackDragon |
| Coventry City on 22:48 - Sep 24 by Chief |
Easy to blame Cooper (predictable too).
But let's be honest, he should zero absolutely zero promise when he did play for us.
Are people really saying that either Ayew or Lowe should have been dropped to crowbar him in?
Coventry don't / didn't have a Lowe or an Ayew or weren't going for promotion last season, so it's a bit easier to accommodate and persist with a striker under those circumstances. He did only score 3 for them last season as well.
Who knows maybe he hit the gym pre-season or just likes the Midlands. That's football. |
Guehi also showed zero promise early on, in truth he always looked like a mistake waiting to happen but he had the advantage of being an England U17 and not a Sweden U17. Guess it's a case of who and not what you know. STID | | | |
| Coventry City on 10:35 - Sep 25 with 849 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 10:23 - Sep 25 by JackDragon |
Guehi also showed zero promise early on, in truth he always looked like a mistake waiting to happen but he had the advantage of being an England U17 and not a Sweden U17. Guess it's a case of who and not what you know. STID |
Well Cooper was the one (maybe in light of squad constraints - selling Rodon etc) who saw Guehi in training everyday and deemed him worthy of persisting with. He also saw Gyorkeres in training everyday and he was deemed not worthy of starting - backed up by his substandard performances on the pitch.
Not sure what people are expecting - we finished 4th last season, is anyone suggesting that we'd have gone up if Gyorkeres had been given more gametime? Because that's the next (relatively close upward step-the 3rd place team went up). Well there's no evidence to suggest that considering his performance for Coventry In the second half of last season that he'd done any good for us either.
If we'd played Gyorkeres more considering his performances people would have used that to attack Cooper (and it would have been justified).
Then there's 'developing players for other clubs' argument. Now it's suddenly fine to want loan players taking more gametime from our own players? | |
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| Coventry City on 10:38 - Sep 25 with 843 views | Catullus |
Maybe this thread shows the pointlessness of looking at former players and comparing now to then?
We all have different opinions and how do we know for sure who is right. If we'd played Gyokeres more and he'd stayed, when Lowe hit his long dry spell maybe Gyokeres would have stepped up then, who can say. Not many players have ever made a big impression from a very bit part role though. Even the very best players can take a while to get started.
Cooper had his favourites but all managers do and most managers will have rejected a player who goes on to ake that decision look silly. That's sport for you. | |
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| Coventry City on 11:03 - Sep 25 with 816 views | JackDragon |
| Coventry City on 10:35 - Sep 25 by Chief |
Well Cooper was the one (maybe in light of squad constraints - selling Rodon etc) who saw Guehi in training everyday and deemed him worthy of persisting with. He also saw Gyorkeres in training everyday and he was deemed not worthy of starting - backed up by his substandard performances on the pitch.
Not sure what people are expecting - we finished 4th last season, is anyone suggesting that we'd have gone up if Gyorkeres had been given more gametime? Because that's the next (relatively close upward step-the 3rd place team went up). Well there's no evidence to suggest that considering his performance for Coventry In the second half of last season that he'd done any good for us either.
If we'd played Gyorkeres more considering his performances people would have used that to attack Cooper (and it would have been justified).
Then there's 'developing players for other clubs' argument. Now it's suddenly fine to want loan players taking more gametime from our own players? |
I'm impressed you brought "substandard performances on the pitch" into a conversation involving Steve Cooper. STID. | | | |
| Coventry City on 11:05 - Sep 25 with 814 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 11:03 - Sep 25 by JackDragon |
I'm impressed you brought "substandard performances on the pitch" into a conversation involving Steve Cooper. STID. |
Is there any other way to realistically describe Gyorkeres' performances for us? | |
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| Coventry City on 11:41 - Sep 25 with 774 views | Catullus |
| Coventry City on 11:05 - Sep 25 by Chief |
Is there any other way to realistically describe Gyorkeres' performances for us? |
From what little we saw of him it wasn't good enough, surely nobody can disagree. The argument seems to be though that more time on the pitch may have paid dividends. We can never know though, more time on the pitch and he may have gotten even worse.
Look at Hourihane, highly rated coming here but utter rubbish for most of that time but still got picked. Now he's apparently doing well at the Blades.
No matter how good a player is, sometimes it just doesn't work, for whatever reason the club isn't the right one. Sometimes it just works. | |
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| Coventry City on 11:48 - Sep 25 with 758 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 11:41 - Sep 25 by Catullus |
From what little we saw of him it wasn't good enough, surely nobody can disagree. The argument seems to be though that more time on the pitch may have paid dividends. We can never know though, more time on the pitch and he may have gotten even worse.
Look at Hourihane, highly rated coming here but utter rubbish for most of that time but still got picked. Now he's apparently doing well at the Blades.
No matter how good a player is, sometimes it just doesn't work, for whatever reason the club isn't the right one. Sometimes it just works. |
Yes, but inevitably playing a player more that we both agree isn't good enough results in weakening the team hoping that at some point that one player improves at some point during the season (he didn't really).
We weren't prolific scorers as a team so dedicating gametime as a sort of project to Gyorkeres who wasn't even our player would almost certainly have resulted in us being worse off than we were.
Yes he's clicked at Coventry, that's just football. Not like anyone could reasonably have predicted it. | |
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| Coventry City on 11:54 - Sep 25 with 755 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coventry City on 22:48 - Sep 24 by Chief |
Easy to blame Cooper (predictable too).
But let's be honest, he should zero absolutely zero promise when he did play for us.
Are people really saying that either Ayew or Lowe should have been dropped to crowbar him in?
Coventry don't / didn't have a Lowe or an Ayew or weren't going for promotion last season, so it's a bit easier to accommodate and persist with a striker under those circumstances. He did only score 3 for them last season as well.
Who knows maybe he hit the gym pre-season or just likes the Midlands. That's football. |
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| Coventry City on 12:17 - Sep 25 with 743 views | jasper_T |
Was always good against our u23s. As has already been said, Cooper was constantly talking about not having a centre forward for most of the season. We started Cullen & Routledge up front in the playoff games. Clearly the lad is capable. Didn't have the same faith shown in him that others like Guehi had (shambolic in all but one of his first run of games, having gone straight into the starting lineup) and for some that's proof enough that he is a poor player the manager was justified in ignoring. | | | |
| Coventry City on 12:23 - Sep 25 with 733 views | Chief |
| Coventry City on 12:17 - Sep 25 by jasper_T |
Was always good against our u23s. As has already been said, Cooper was constantly talking about not having a centre forward for most of the season. We started Cullen & Routledge up front in the playoff games. Clearly the lad is capable. Didn't have the same faith shown in him that others like Guehi had (shambolic in all but one of his first run of games, having gone straight into the starting lineup) and for some that's proof enough that he is a poor player the manager was justified in ignoring. |
That along with his poor performances for us and alternatives available yes.
Guehi came back a better player after his pre-season. Evidently so has Gyorkeres.
Were there really many other viable options in defence than Guehi then? As I've said the circumstances dictated it was worth persisting with. We didn't have Gyorkeres for another season so that's a moot point anyway. | |
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| Coventry City on 12:47 - Sep 25 with 721 views | onehunglow |
Another player misused by us. | |
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