| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 09:34 - Oct 8 with 1245 views | Boundy |
Well firstly lets hope there's no need to pull the players off but if it arises then hopefully they'll have the gonads to do it , regardless of the penalties imposed after . |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:27 - Oct 8 with 1180 views | onehunglow |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 09:34 - Oct 8 by Boundy |
Well firstly lets hope there's no need to pull the players off but if it arises then hopefully they'll have the gonads to do it , regardless of the penalties imposed after . |
WALK OFF.
Wale would be respected greatly for doing so by countries who are worth being respected. Being disrespected by Czehs,Hungarians,Bulgarians,Serbs ,Croats would be a badge of honour | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:34 - Oct 8 with 1189 views | KeithHaynes |
Big decisions for Page tonight and it’s got nothing to do with team selection. |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:55 - Oct 8 with 1153 views | onehunglow |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:34 - Oct 8 by KeithHaynes |
Big decisions for Page tonight and it’s got nothing to do with team selection. |
Buenos dias
In a way,I hope it does and it forces his hand. It's time for all of us genuinely sickened by racist jerks to show their time is up. It is now 2021.
If it happen and we do not I would never watch another Wale game EVER.
This could be OUR time when a small nation shows the greedy,filthy billybigbollox nations how to show real contempt for racism.Nothing but nothing has football done to combat this.
And no,we are not as bad as the eastern bloc . | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:19 - Oct 8 with 1073 views | Catullus |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:34 - Oct 8 by KeithHaynes |
Big decisions for Page tonight and it’s got nothing to do with team selection. |
Thing is Keith, now this has been said you can just bet that some idiots in Prague are planning what to say, planning to orchestrate a racist chant like some sort of twisted challenge to Wales.
If it happens, and now I expect it to, Wales should absolutely walk off and if UEFA punish us we should push it all the way. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:30 - Oct 8 with 1061 views | Flashberryjack |
Will they walk off if they are booed for taking the knee ? |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:43 - Oct 8 with 1050 views | Flashberryjack |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:19 - Oct 8 by Catullus |
Thing is Keith, now this has been said you can just bet that some idiots in Prague are planning what to say, planning to orchestrate a racist chant like some sort of twisted challenge to Wales.
If it happens, and now I expect it to, Wales should absolutely walk off and if UEFA punish us we should push it all the way. |
Media fuelling a reaction, so they can fill tomorrows sports pages. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:04 - Oct 8 with 1032 views | KeithHaynes |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:43 - Oct 8 by Flashberryjack |
Media fuelling a reaction, so they can fill tomorrows sports pages. |
Could be, but not sure Page should have said it. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:11 - Oct 8 with 1021 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 10:55 - Oct 8 by onehunglow |
Buenos dias
In a way,I hope it does and it forces his hand. It's time for all of us genuinely sickened by racist jerks to show their time is up. It is now 2021.
If it happen and we do not I would never watch another Wale game EVER.
This could be OUR time when a small nation shows the greedy,filthy billybigbollox nations how to show real contempt for racism.Nothing but nothing has football done to combat this.
And no,we are not as bad as the eastern bloc . |
You are not interested in the Cymru team at all as you have stated many times. I am not surprised you want Cymru to be the guinea pigs for anti racist direct action and the consequences that result. England had abuse Hungary and did nothing. They have much more clout than Cymru. FAW should record any incidences and make a report if required.
Only last week you were stating you were happy Cabango was not picked so he could rest.
You also do not recognise Anti Welsh sheep themed abuse is racist although have given you two examples of convictions for this activity. |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:17 - Oct 8 with 1015 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:04 - Oct 8 by KeithHaynes |
Could be, but not sure Page should have said it. |
Page left some sack in his comments. He would consider it if the conditions "became intolerable" I think his words were. This could include the trowing of projectiles or concerns over the players safety. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:22 - Oct 8 with 1004 views | Flashberryjack |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:04 - Oct 8 by KeithHaynes |
Could be, but not sure Page should have said it. |
IMHO he shouldn't have said it, but he has, and he can't take it back now.
Managers should be managing, footballers should be playing, fans should be watching and the football authorities should be dealing with problems like these.
BTW what's the availability of Quality street over with you ? | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:40 - Oct 8 with 987 views | onehunglow |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:11 - Oct 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are not interested in the Cymru team at all as you have stated many times. I am not surprised you want Cymru to be the guinea pigs for anti racist direct action and the consequences that result. England had abuse Hungary and did nothing. They have much more clout than Cymru. FAW should record any incidences and make a report if required.
Only last week you were stating you were happy Cabango was not picked so he could rest.
You also do not recognise Anti Welsh sheep themed abuse is racist although have given you two examples of convictions for this activity. |
Hmm,I am a Swansea Boy,born and bred,valley warrior. Granted we always looked down on you as rather backward. Nothing personal but the 60 saw us teens always scrapping with the Valley boys,Turks and Neathies. It was great.
Wales? Which Wales,you narrow minded English hating narrative .Nah,I aint interested .
I am interested primarily on my home town club.Wales a distant second.
Now,if you're still with me, I was replying to the narrative of this thread which is evil institutionalised racism in the east Bloc.
On yer bike ,bach | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:48 - Oct 8 with 987 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:40 - Oct 8 by onehunglow |
Hmm,I am a Swansea Boy,born and bred,valley warrior. Granted we always looked down on you as rather backward. Nothing personal but the 60 saw us teens always scrapping with the Valley boys,Turks and Neathies. It was great.
Wales? Which Wales,you narrow minded English hating narrative .Nah,I aint interested .
I am interested primarily on my home town club.Wales a distant second.
Now,if you're still with me, I was replying to the narrative of this thread which is evil institutionalised racism in the east Bloc.
On yer bike ,bach |
I detest English racist behaviour to Welsh families and call it out. Nothing narrow minded about it. I love England and English people but not the racists. I spent one third of my life over Offa's dyke.
Czechs find monkey chants funny just like British fans did in the 1960s. English fans find sheep slurs funny and still do .
Its all the same crap. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 19:19 - Oct 8 with 956 views | onehunglow |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:48 - Oct 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I detest English racist behaviour to Welsh families and call it out. Nothing narrow minded about it. I love England and English people but not the racists. I spent one third of my life over Offa's dyke.
Czechs find monkey chants funny just like British fans did in the 1960s. English fans find sheep slurs funny and still do .
Its all the same crap. |
The first three words are all you need to say.
Pitiful | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 20:15 - Oct 8 with 948 views | Catullus |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 18:11 - Oct 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are not interested in the Cymru team at all as you have stated many times. I am not surprised you want Cymru to be the guinea pigs for anti racist direct action and the consequences that result. England had abuse Hungary and did nothing. They have much more clout than Cymru. FAW should record any incidences and make a report if required.
Only last week you were stating you were happy Cabango was not picked so he could rest.
You also do not recognise Anti Welsh sheep themed abuse is racist although have given you two examples of convictions for this activity. |
I don't get how you can be so wound up about some name calling that most of us don't seem to consider racist and so laisez faire about this?
If players get genuine racist abuse play on but report it, NO, walk off. Let the racists know it won't be tolerated. Just because we are a small team it doesn't mean we should do nothing and hope the authorities act. No, we should do something, try to force their hands. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 21:46 - Oct 8 with 896 views | Lohengrin |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 17:30 - Oct 8 by Flashberryjack |
Will they walk off if they are booed for taking the knee ? |
To perform what is quite widely regarded as sub-Marxian agitprop in a city that suffered decades of Soviet occupation is insensitive in the extreme, almost a calculated insult. |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 21:50 - Oct 8 with 886 views | Kilkennyjack |
Our boys stood up for our boys who took the knee. ✊🾠|  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 23:34 - Oct 8 with 830 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 21:50 - Oct 8 by Kilkennyjack |
Our boys stood up for our boys who took the knee. ✊🾠|
When English fans dish out sheep slurs this is what Swansea fans should do. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 23:47 - Oct 8 with 824 views | Chief |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 21:46 - Oct 8 by Lohengrin |
To perform what is quite widely regarded as sub-Marxian agitprop in a city that suffered decades of Soviet occupation is insensitive in the extreme, almost a calculated insult. |
How can it be a 'calculated insult' to the Czechs when we've taken the knee prior to the last god knows how many games against all nations including ones that have no history of Communist / Soviet occupation whatsoever? |  |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 01:05 - Oct 9 with 807 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 20:15 - Oct 8 by Catullus |
I don't get how you can be so wound up about some name calling that most of us don't seem to consider racist and so laisez faire about this?
If players get genuine racist abuse play on but report it, NO, walk off. Let the racists know it won't be tolerated. Just because we are a small team it doesn't mean we should do nothing and hope the authorities act. No, we should do something, try to force their hands. |
Hypocrisy gets my goat. The mass media do not consider it serious so neither do you. Have you considered that perhaps the reason you do not consider it racist, is because you have a tolerance of low level racism. Sheep slurs are proven in court to be "aggravated racial disorderly behaviour". Fines rather than jail sentences. We are Welsh not Muslims or Jews. You do not get it because you have not though about it logically. I have witnessed the sight of real hate from young blokes with violent intent and under the influence of possible alcohol or other stimulants .
If you chant "we know what we are" you are partaking in low level racist abuse by accepting racial slurs. Welsh fans should call out the English racists like the Welsh fans called out the Czechs that booed the knee.
I have seen Welsh sportsmen Lee Selby and Liam Williams subjected to sickening abuse in northern England. Gerwyn Price has asked for action against the abuse he receives. I have not found any evidence that this is race related but with the alcohol that flows at dart tournament i would not be surprised. It only take one drunken lout like the fellow at Luton. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 07:03 - Oct 9 with 766 views | Lohengrin |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 23:47 - Oct 8 by Chief |
How can it be a 'calculated insult' to the Czechs when we've taken the knee prior to the last god knows how many games against all nations including ones that have no history of Communist / Soviet occupation whatsoever? |
This kneeling caper is often accompanied with a clenched left fist, as you’ve no doubt seen for yourself. That gesture is apt to provoke the same reaction in many Czechs that a Roman salute would in Tel Aviv.
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:19 - Oct 9 with 729 views | Chief |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 07:03 - Oct 9 by Lohengrin |
This kneeling caper is often accompanied with a clenched left fist, as you’ve no doubt seen for yourself. That gesture is apt to provoke the same reaction in many Czechs that a Roman salute would in Tel Aviv.
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So again I ask, seeing as Wales have done It for several games prior stretching back a long time, how can it been seen as a 'calculated insult' to the Czechs when they've taken the knee against every country including ones with no Soviet connections? | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:30 - Oct 9 with 719 views | Lohengrin |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:19 - Oct 9 by Chief |
So again I ask, seeing as Wales have done It for several games prior stretching back a long time, how can it been seen as a 'calculated insult' to the Czechs when they've taken the knee against every country including ones with no Soviet connections? |
I’d find it difficult to believe that senior FAW members would be unaware of the history of where they were playing. In the light of that knowledge to plough on regardless? There is calculation behind that.
You may not see it that way but your perspective would be radically different to a Czech or Magyar. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:38 - Oct 9 with 710 views | Chief |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:30 - Oct 9 by Lohengrin |
I’d find it difficult to believe that senior FAW members would be unaware of the history of where they were playing. In the light of that knowledge to plough on regardless? There is calculation behind that.
You may not see it that way but your perspective would be radically different to a Czech or Magyar. |
I'd find it difficult that any senior Czech FA members would be unaware of the fact that Wales (amongst other nations) take the knee before games against every nation they play against. So no calculation. To suddenly not do it would be calculation.
You're just making up issues when they don't exist. If the Czech FA cared (in reality they probably see it for what it and that's not some Marxist conspiracy) I'm sure they'd have let us know about it prior to the game. It was no surprise we took the knee. | |
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| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:45 - Oct 9 with 707 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The issue now is if Wales ‘don't’ walk off the pitch ... on 08:30 - Oct 9 by Lohengrin |
I’d find it difficult to believe that senior FAW members would be unaware of the history of where they were playing. In the light of that knowledge to plough on regardless? There is calculation behind that.
You may not see it that way but your perspective would be radically different to a Czech or Magyar. |
It’s all calculated nonsense as far as I’m concerned.
As you say, to know why people oppose such a gesture and continue with it with no alteration to fit the brief, suggests the goal they want to reach isn’t their main aim.
If they wanted everyone to agree with them and build on the message then they wouldn’t continue to make a gesture so closely aligned with a current and active political movement.
They want the boos, they want the conflict. Without it, they can’t pretend it’s needed.
In reality however, many just roll their eyes inside at it whether they are outwardly clapping, booing or appearing indifferent.
It’s now just panto. |  |
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