| Sala case proven then 11:58 - Oct 28 with 4952 views | onehunglow |
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| Sala case proven then on 23:10 - Nov 13 with 810 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Sala case proven then on 23:06 - Nov 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Like I do understand and do not agreed with your assessment that it was a personal flight not a business flight. it was an alternative to the business commercial flight Cardiff city had reportedly offered from Paris. |
So he arranged it himself then as he didn't want the relocation package offered.
No longer business, but personal.
Case closed. |  |
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| Sala case proven then on 23:30 - Nov 13 with 783 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala case proven then on 23:10 - Nov 13 by Dr_Parnassus |
So he arranged it himself then as he didn't want the relocation package offered.
No longer business, but personal.
Case closed. |
No he did not arrange it himself, the agent involved in the deal arranged it for him with business interests in mind.
This was to keep Cardiff City happy with the purchase and the agencies roles in it. The idea was to reduce travel time and have the player bright an bushy tailed at training on Tuesday. |  |
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| Sala case proven then on 23:34 - Nov 13 with 782 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Sala case proven then on 23:30 - Nov 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No he did not arrange it himself, the agent involved in the deal arranged it for him with business interests in mind.
This was to keep Cardiff City happy with the purchase and the agencies roles in it. The idea was to reduce travel time and have the player bright an bushy tailed at training on Tuesday. |
Yes he did, he arranged it with McKay. He complained that the flight Cardiff offered did not give him time to complete his personal errands.
The key message is:-
7:51pm — Emiliano Sala: “Ah that is great. I was just in the middle of checking if there are some flights to get to Nantes tomorrow.”
This means it was a personal trip, not a business one. You don't try and arrange your own flights on a business trip.
The agent has no business interests in the transporting of Sala to Cardiff at all, that's a personal matter for Sala. The deal was complete, their part of it was done.
Having him ''bright and bushy tailed'' was of no consequence to their business dealings, their remit was to facilitate and complete the transfer. Which they did.
That happened already.
Also important to note that arranging a flight is not a crime. The issue was the pilot handed over the job to someone else, the company would be liable for that or Henderson himself.
If I book a flight and the pilot decided to give the job to someone else, I am not liable for that decision. It would be the company I booked the flight through. That company now technically does not exist.
Henderson is the only guilty party in the eyes of the law. [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 23:40]
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| Sala case proven then on 23:50 - Nov 13 with 757 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Lets make this easy.
Say you work for a company. I recommend you to another company. You go over there, you agree to the employment, sign the contract and end the employment with your previous one...
The new employers say, we can fly you back if you like. You refuse and then complain to me that they offered you a really inconvenient flight.
I then say, all good mate my Dad has got you covered he will pay for your flight for you, I got a decent referral bonus when you signed the contract so he will cover it, least we can do.
British Airways 9pm tomorrow. You accept. Your business trip ends at that moment and it becomes a personally arranged one.
The pilot is drunk and the plane crashes.
Do you think your previous employers are liable? Do you think I am liable?
Neither are. [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 23:56]
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| Sala case proven then on 01:35 - Nov 15 with 613 views | BarryTownSwam |
| Sala case proven then on 10:55 - Oct 29 by Catullus |
Wales doesn't need an airport? Can you explain why you think it does?
You have given a very good reason why it doesn't get equal treatment and because of that very few people use Rhoose airport. Every passenger that goes through it's gates costs the Welsh tax payer money as such it is not financially viable.
Even if things changed and Rhoose got equal treatment, Bristol is so far ahead in defelopment it would cost too much to bring Rhoose up to standard.
PS, that EU you love so much, they prohibit state interference/funding so the Senedd would not be allowed to own the airport.
The FAW won't buy the CCS, how can they afford it? Plus if Tan sold the ground it would affect his chances of selling Cardiff to get his money back. It would be funny to see the faces of the Cardiff fans when we pointed out they didn't own their own ground though! |
Latest FAW financial accounts state the made a £1m profit during the pandemic (no mean feat when games were played without gate income), and the FAW have £63m investments and £8.9m cash reserves !! No doubt the FAW could afford to buy Legoland. ‘Should they’ and ‘would they’ are more suitable questions than ‘can they?’ along with ‘who would play there?’ 😂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59143039 [Post edited 15 Nov 2021 2:03]
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| Sala case proven then on 14:50 - Nov 15 with 510 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala case proven then on 01:35 - Nov 15 by BarryTownSwam |
Latest FAW financial accounts state the made a £1m profit during the pandemic (no mean feat when games were played without gate income), and the FAW have £63m investments and £8.9m cash reserves !! No doubt the FAW could afford to buy Legoland. ‘Should they’ and ‘would they’ are more suitable questions than ‘can they?’ along with ‘who would play there?’ 😂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59143039 [Post edited 15 Nov 2021 2:03]
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The BBC article says £1m loss actually which is not too shabby ether actually. Good update. You post will be an eye opener to those who think the FAW are still living hand to mouth. Those days are long gone. Good to see they have investments. | |
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| Sala case proven then on 18:56 - Nov 15 with 480 views | Dewi1jack |
| Sala case proven then on 11:18 - Nov 13 by BillyChong |
Insurance companies are no mugs, they won’t pay out if the pilot wasn’t qualified to fly at night |
Pilot was not licenced to fly at night
Pilot had no commercial flight licence at all
Pilot had a lapsed qualification to fly the aircraft type
Think the same as an insurance exclusion of an unlicensed car driver is going to happen with all the insurers involved.
One question.
If Cardiff had any hand in recommending/ employing the agent who arranged the flight, then wouldn't that agent be classed as a sub contractor of the club?
In which case, that makes our Eastern cousins fully liable for the acts of a sub contractor |  |
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| Sala case proven then on 19:34 - Nov 15 with 470 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala case proven then on 18:56 - Nov 15 by Dewi1jack |
Pilot was not licenced to fly at night
Pilot had no commercial flight licence at all
Pilot had a lapsed qualification to fly the aircraft type
Think the same as an insurance exclusion of an unlicensed car driver is going to happen with all the insurers involved.
One question.
If Cardiff had any hand in recommending/ employing the agent who arranged the flight, then wouldn't that agent be classed as a sub contractor of the club?
In which case, that makes our Eastern cousins fully liable for the acts of a sub contractor |
There are clearly two different issues here. The air craft firm clearly must have had insurance. The firm had flown VIPs about the place.
They by their reckless actions clearly have invalidated any claim they make to the firm.
What I am not clear about is whether the air firm's insurance is liable for the costs of other people like the lives lost and the aircraft itself and the player's cash value.
There will be another enquiry case into the other aspects of the case such as the condition and suitability of the aircraft.
Accidents and fatalities happen because people make mistakes miscalculations and from unexpected events like bad weather. Removing liability for mistakes are reckless actions makes insurance an useless investment, The insurers in a fully covered event apportion blame between themselves according the rules of their trade. No one is suggesting this accident was deliberate.
When a lady drove into the back of my car the only concern was, her insurance cover. She was 100% at fault and her insurance had to cover my costs. She was reckless and broke the law on speeding but was insured. Henderson was at fault and his insurance has to pay the others costs. If the plane was unfit with inadequate maintenance and certification their insurance will have to share it.
The agent as far as I can see has not done anything wrong so that is not an issue.
This is my understanding. | |
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| Sala case proven then on 20:24 - Nov 15 with 458 views | bennytheblue |
| Sala case proven then on 18:56 - Nov 15 by Dewi1jack |
Pilot was not licenced to fly at night
Pilot had no commercial flight licence at all
Pilot had a lapsed qualification to fly the aircraft type
Think the same as an insurance exclusion of an unlicensed car driver is going to happen with all the insurers involved.
One question.
If Cardiff had any hand in recommending/ employing the agent who arranged the flight, then wouldn't that agent be classed as a sub contractor of the club?
In which case, that makes our Eastern cousins fully liable for the acts of a sub contractor |
Sala contacted his agent, whoever that is- strangely never heard who it is through all this? Or he contacted Nantes, who put him in touch with mackay who sorted it for him, he will get a million or two from the deal if when it goes through. He’s an agent for players in the French league but not specifically Sala. |  | | |
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