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Labour/ Plaid Deal 11:03 - Nov 25 with 2171 viewsCwmafanJack

Huge gameble by plaid or calculated risk to get Wales closer to independence. For me it's a massive risk after Adam price stating he is not in it for doing deals with other parties.
Will independence happen with in 2, 5 or even 10 years? Or will it just be a pipe dream?

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:09 - Nov 25 with 797 viewsRonaldStump

Will NEVER happen! The corporation won't allow it

(He She Him)

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:11 - Nov 25 with 820 viewsonehunglow

Think yiu know the answer there. This has been going all my life and is no closer

It’s popular up in Gwynedd and with kids but not with many else


It’s best to have some clout in this world

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 25 with 807 viewsYouBackJastard

My policy when voting is essentially ‘anyone but a Tory’. Last election I voted for Plaid because I preferred the candidate but could easily find myself voting for Welsh Labour given I back their politics.

This deal is fantastic news to me at first glance. Ensures sensible and mature left-leaning politics brought to the forefront of discussions. Well done Adam Price and Drakeford.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:24 - Nov 25 with 804 viewsonehunglow

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard

My policy when voting is essentially ‘anyone but a Tory’. Last election I voted for Plaid because I preferred the candidate but could easily find myself voting for Welsh Labour given I back their politics.

This deal is fantastic news to me at first glance. Ensures sensible and mature left-leaning politics brought to the forefront of discussions. Well done Adam Price and Drakeford.


You need to free yourself.
Im often anyone but Labour but right now,I would not vote at all a Johnon is so inept.

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:29 - Nov 25 with 797 viewsYouBackJastard

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:24 - Nov 25 by onehunglow

You need to free yourself.
Im often anyone but Labour but right now,I would not vote at all a Johnon is so inept.


I don’t like Keir Starmer but I’d happily vote for you OHL before I vote for a member of the conservative party.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:31 - Nov 25 with 789 viewsonehunglow

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:29 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard

I don’t like Keir Starmer but I’d happily vote for you OHL before I vote for a member of the conservative party.


Thanks.
Voting for me will see you in Purgatory.
I 'll be in Burning Hell to receive you.

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:38 - Nov 25 with 779 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

As I said on the other thread, if plaid want any serious electoral success they have to stop being essentially a minor wing of the Labour Party, propping them up and supporting them and become their own independent (no pun intended) entity with their own identity and the ruthless attitude that Labour are their opposition and to chase the Labour votes with the unbridled aggression of a thousand suns.

I have had this conversation with people quite high up in the party but I get the feeling they are happy plodding along as they are.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:06 - Nov 25 with 761 viewsDr_Winston

I doubt that there's many people high up in Plaid that actually want independence.

They're much happier apeing the Corbyn wing of the Labour party and being professional protesters rather than having to face the horrible reality of delivering on their promises.

Keep their core support like Kilks and Trampie happy with enough sloganeering to keep voting them in and thus maintain their positions at the trough come election time, and most will be happy with that.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:53 - Nov 25 with 732 viewsCatullus

The deal just proved that Price is a liar, a hypocrite or even both. Drakeford just wanted a guarantee that what he wants gets through the Senedd.

When Kilkenny talks about who voted for what, who voted for a Labour/Plaid coalition?

Nobody.

We have a political arrangement to circumvent democracy. I wonder what Drakeford offered Plaid (that we don't know about) to get them on board?

That bloke that interviewed price and actually asked him will we be dragging ths out of the archives in 6(?) months time, he's a fortune teller!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 14:23 - Nov 25 with 709 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:06 - Nov 25 by Dr_Winston

I doubt that there's many people high up in Plaid that actually want independence.

They're much happier apeing the Corbyn wing of the Labour party and being professional protesters rather than having to face the horrible reality of delivering on their promises.

Keep their core support like Kilks and Trampie happy with enough sloganeering to keep voting them in and thus maintain their positions at the trough come election time, and most will be happy with that.


During the last election when they decided not to run at all in 11 Welsh constituencies to give Labour a clear run showed their lack of ambition acutely. Not the behaviour you would expect from “the party of Wales”.

They are nothing but lackeys and stooges for Labour at this point and as you correctly surmise they have fully jumped down the rabbit hole of overly woke, corbynistic gender and race based student politics nonsense.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 16:31 - Nov 25 with 668 viewstrampie


Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:04 - Nov 25 with 649 viewstrampie

Plaid forcing Welsh Labour to adopt Plaid policies otherwise no deal.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:12 - Nov 25 with 641 viewstrampie

I'm now see that some Tories are saying 'vote Labour get Plaid'.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:15 - Nov 25 with 632 viewstrampie

I see Question Time is on tonight from Kaardiff, with super Lizzie Saville going in to bat for Plaid.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:17 - Nov 25 with 629 viewsonehunglow

What inDy have to realise that if Wales went truly independent ,then they would have to replace their world class specialist treatment of cancer, neurological and heart specialist hospitals the hated English provide on Merseyside not forgetting Alder Hey which ave countless Welsh children's lives.

Literally a death sentence

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:26 - Nov 25 with 618 viewstrampie



Drakers speaks, Plaid getting him to enact their policies, he is even going to do something about second homes, if that is not a Plaid policy I don't know what is.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:32 - Nov 25 with 613 viewsCatullus

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:26 - Nov 25 by trampie



Drakers speaks, Plaid getting him to enact their policies, he is even going to do something about second homes, if that is not a Plaid policy I don't know what is.


Yeah, the MS's are going to use expenses to buy second homes. More of a tory plan

OK that's not true but the truth may be even worse.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 with 609 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Something tells me this won't end well.

Besian Idrizaj Forever a Jack

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:45 - Nov 25 with 594 viewsFlashberryjack

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 by JACKMANANDBOY

Something tells me this won't end well.


For whom ?

Hello

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:50 - Nov 25 with 585 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:45 - Nov 25 by Flashberryjack

For whom ?


We the people of Wales, more MSs and political alliances smells like inward looking government.

Besian Idrizaj Forever a Jack

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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:14 - Nov 26 with 475 viewstrampie



Will Welsh Labour breakaway from the UK Labour party ?, Plaid will get some 'socialist' policies enacted via the deal so it seems.

UK Labour is just a Tory lite party time for Welsh Labour to split from UK Labour.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:20 - Nov 26 with 464 viewstrampie

Welsh Labour and UK Labour party seem to be going in different directions.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 26 with 460 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:20 - Nov 26 by trampie

Welsh Labour and UK Labour party seem to be going in different directions.


They’re both going backwards though.
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 26 with 460 viewsYouBackJastard

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:14 - Nov 26 by trampie



Will Welsh Labour breakaway from the UK Labour party ?, Plaid will get some 'socialist' policies enacted via the deal so it seems.

UK Labour is just a Tory lite party time for Welsh Labour to split from UK Labour.


Blair always did love a war
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Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:43 - Nov 26 with 448 viewsKilkennyjack

Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 by JACKMANANDBOY

Something tells me this won't end well.


This is great news for the people of Cymru.

Given Englands Tory Brexit, the dreadful pandemic, and the increasing hostility from London towards our devolved Parliaments then a new political answer was needed for Cymru.

Drakers has picked out the Plaid policies that made sense and could be delivered, and he has got the deal done.

Wales is not Tory England.

Until the last rebel ......🍀🇮🇪

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