| Cost of living 17:24 - Dec 27 with 2558 views | trampie |
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| Cost of living on 12:17 - Dec 29 with 826 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 11:55 - Dec 29 by Catullus |
Left and right have both screwed things up. We need a centrist party that takes the sensible policies from either side and unites them.
We need a welfare state, we need a properly functioning NHS, we need a sensible immigration policy, we need decent schools, we need a better/fairer tax system, we need to make corporations pay their fair share of taxes AND better wages, we need more police/firefighters/emergency service personnel.
When we get a left Or right wing ideology some of those things always suffer. We need different ideas.
Rant over, OH, and I saw this which means bills will come down (probably more slowly than they went up)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/gas-price-falls-as-cargo-ships-divert-to-u |
Don't Labour offer welfare state, functioning NHS, fairer tax system etc etc (compared to the Tories), so does that mean that you vote Labour and will continue to do so ? | |
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| Cost of living on 13:01 - Dec 29 with 783 views | Catullus |
| Cost of living on 12:17 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Don't Labour offer welfare state, functioning NHS, fairer tax system etc etc (compared to the Tories), so does that mean that you vote Labour and will continue to do so ? |
Labour AND Tory have both screwed it up. They are both past their sell by dates and need replacing. |  |
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| Cost of living on 13:24 - Dec 29 with 760 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 13:01 - Dec 29 by Catullus |
Labour AND Tory have both screwed it up. They are both past their sell by dates and need replacing. |
Lib Dems are similar to both Labour and Conservatives, so that leaves Plaid, SNP or Greens, oh I nearly forgot the kippers. | |
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| Cost of living on 13:41 - Dec 29 with 747 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Cost of living on 12:17 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Don't Labour offer welfare state, functioning NHS, fairer tax system etc etc (compared to the Tories), so does that mean that you vote Labour and will continue to do so ? |
It’s hard to decipher what the modern Labour Party is offering trampie. Apart from unlimited genders, the complete abolition of Israel and erasing anyone from history who wasn’t a complete angel for the entirety of their life it’s hard to tell what their policies are. | | | |
| Cost of living on 13:42 - Dec 29 with 747 views | Whiterockin |
| Cost of living on 13:24 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Lib Dems are similar to both Labour and Conservatives, so that leaves Plaid, SNP or Greens, oh I nearly forgot the kippers. |
It would be a perfect time for Plaid if they stepped up to the mark. They will never get enough votes in Wales as long as they keep banging on about independence. Drop independence for now, show what they could do for the "whole of Wales" through the Senedd and go from there. It would take time, but they would have more chance of succeeding in the long term.
TBH drop independence, put forward some good policies and I would probably give them a go. |  | | |
| Cost of living on 13:59 - Dec 29 with 725 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 13:41 - Dec 29 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
It’s hard to decipher what the modern Labour Party is offering trampie. Apart from unlimited genders, the complete abolition of Israel and erasing anyone from history who wasn’t a complete angel for the entirety of their life it’s hard to tell what their policies are. |
Parliamentary Labour are pro Israel, think I've seen it that Starmer is married to a Jewish person (and children brought up as such ?) and that Milliband is Jewish (not sure about practising), unfortunately lots in Parliamentary Labour are pro right wing and are Tories. | |
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| Cost of living on 14:04 - Dec 29 with 718 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 13:42 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
It would be a perfect time for Plaid if they stepped up to the mark. They will never get enough votes in Wales as long as they keep banging on about independence. Drop independence for now, show what they could do for the "whole of Wales" through the Senedd and go from there. It would take time, but they would have more chance of succeeding in the long term.
TBH drop independence, put forward some good policies and I would probably give them a go. |
I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you, apparently a lot of Plaid members are not actually for full independence (at this point in time anyway and where Wales plc is currently at). | |
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| Cost of living on 14:15 - Dec 29 with 698 views | Whiterockin |
| Cost of living on 14:04 - Dec 29 by trampie |
I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you, apparently a lot of Plaid members are not actually for full independence (at this point in time anyway and where Wales plc is currently at). |
The next Senedd elections are there for the taking if it was planned properly starting now. People have had enough of Drakeford in Wales and Boris in Westminster, as I say, not much to beat. | | | |
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| Cost of living on 14:22 - Dec 29 with 675 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Cost of living on 13:59 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Parliamentary Labour are pro Israel, think I've seen it that Starmer is married to a Jewish person (and children brought up as such ?) and that Milliband is Jewish (not sure about practising), unfortunately lots in Parliamentary Labour are pro right wing and are Tories. |
Parliamentary Labour don’t set the policy though. Policy is decided at conference with the NEC, trade unions and members voting on things.
I wonder how a vote on Israel would go down at conference?
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| Cost of living on 14:40 - Dec 29 with 649 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 14:15 - Dec 29 by Whiterockin |
The next Senedd elections are there for the taking if it was planned properly starting now. People have had enough of Drakeford in Wales and Boris in Westminster, as I say, not much to beat. |
Propoganda dictates unfortunately, Plaid are very middle of the road, a cross between a petite bourgeois party and a left of centre social justice party, they are way to nicey nice and go out of their way not to offend anybody yet they get disingenuously called everything, labelled by their opponents, they should do the same back but don't.
With a quarter of the population born in England and all the nonsense said about Plaid lots of those people are not going to vote for Plaid, mind you I do know people that have moved down from England that vote Plaid, my nextdoor neighbours for one (nothing to do with me), business people, ladies bookclub, national gardens charity type people and they vote Plaid, they went on a pro EU march up to London from down here, they don't like racists and of course Plaid are the least racist party going, yet the perception is totally the opposite. | |
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| Cost of living on 14:49 - Dec 29 with 640 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 14:22 - Dec 29 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Parliamentary Labour don’t set the policy though. Policy is decided at conference with the NEC, trade unions and members voting on things.
I wonder how a vote on Israel would go down at conference?
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Right wing Labour Jewish people and their supporters are apparently discriminating against left wing Jewish people and getting them band from Labour by labelling them anti Semitic, seen it the other day some socialist Jewish Labour group that out of 12 officials, 11 of them Jewish people had either been expelled or investigated for antisemitism, it's a game.
The right wing have infiltrated the Labour party and taken over | |
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| Cost of living on 14:54 - Dec 29 with 634 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Cost of living on 14:49 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Right wing Labour Jewish people and their supporters are apparently discriminating against left wing Jewish people and getting them band from Labour by labelling them anti Semitic, seen it the other day some socialist Jewish Labour group that out of 12 officials, 11 of them Jewish people had either been expelled or investigated for antisemitism, it's a game.
The right wing have infiltrated the Labour party and taken over |
Do you have a link to all these Jewish people in some socialist group who got chucked out for being antisemitic that you saw the other day? | | | |
| Cost of living on 16:09 - Dec 29 with 562 views | Catullus |
Odd that, the right tend to be pro Israel, it was the Corbynistas who were accused of being anti Semitic. yet according to you it's right wing Labour infiltrators.
Plaid are centre left but unfortunately Welsh nationalists quite often appear a tad xenophobic and hostile to all things English. | |
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| Cost of living on 18:40 - Dec 29 with 493 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Cost of living on 14:40 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Propoganda dictates unfortunately, Plaid are very middle of the road, a cross between a petite bourgeois party and a left of centre social justice party, they are way to nicey nice and go out of their way not to offend anybody yet they get disingenuously called everything, labelled by their opponents, they should do the same back but don't.
With a quarter of the population born in England and all the nonsense said about Plaid lots of those people are not going to vote for Plaid, mind you I do know people that have moved down from England that vote Plaid, my nextdoor neighbours for one (nothing to do with me), business people, ladies bookclub, national gardens charity type people and they vote Plaid, they went on a pro EU march up to London from down here, they don't like racists and of course Plaid are the least racist party going, yet the perception is totally the opposite. |
Would that be the same nationalist who used to burn the homes of English settlers in the 1960s and 70s. | |
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| Cost of living on 22:33 - Dec 29 with 456 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Sounds to me like you’ve been watching too many episodes of the X files. | | | |
| Cost of living on 07:09 - Dec 30 with 414 views | trampie |
| Cost of living on 22:33 - Dec 29 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Sounds to me like you’ve been watching too many episodes of the X files. |
Hundreds and hundreds of burnings over a decade plus across Wales, no one ever caught for the cottage fires, very advanced devices used, homes would have to have been staked out for days to make sure that no one was in there, where did these advanced devices come from, why no one ever caught for hundreds and hundreds of cottages over years and years, I might have been born at night but not last night.
The UK state did not want another N.Ireland, they did not want the UK state to break up, they wanted to try and discredit the nationalist movement so people wouldn't vote for a so called nationalist party like Plaid and split the union state apart. | |
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| Cost of living on 10:33 - Dec 30 with 374 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Cost of living on 07:09 - Dec 30 by trampie |
Hundreds and hundreds of burnings over a decade plus across Wales, no one ever caught for the cottage fires, very advanced devices used, homes would have to have been staked out for days to make sure that no one was in there, where did these advanced devices come from, why no one ever caught for hundreds and hundreds of cottages over years and years, I might have been born at night but not last night.
The UK state did not want another N.Ireland, they did not want the UK state to break up, they wanted to try and discredit the nationalist movement so people wouldn't vote for a so called nationalist party like Plaid and split the union state apart. |
At least they caught the water pipeline bombers and of course the bombers in Carnarvon in 1969 after they blew themselves up. | |
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| Cost of living on 10:54 - Dec 30 with 367 views | trampie |
It all ties in that they didn't catch anyone for hundreds and hundreds of cottage burnings because it wasn't members of the public it was agents of the UK state.
They recently tried saying the Welsh police forces were sympathetic to the cause and turned a blind eye and that came from a top police chief if I recall (somebody that worked for the state), yeah yeah it's just another red herring, people that followed the story seem very sure it was James Bond types acting to protect the UK state in its current form. | |
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