| Looking at our history. 14:32 - May 9 with 2430 views | lifelong |
We have had a good season.
Over the past 100 seasons we have spent over 40 in the third and fourth tiers, over 40 in the second tier and just 9 in the top tier.
Of the 40 plus seasons in the second tier we finished over 20 of them in a lower position in what we finished this season. |  | | |  |
| Looking at our history. on 20:13 - May 9 with 814 views | lifelong |
| Looking at our history. on 19:17 - May 9 by PawelAbbott |
I totally disagree that we are a lower championship / good league 1 side.
We have a 20k seater stadium that would sell out regularly given a decent performing team. Great training facilties. The catchment area of anywhere West of Port Talbot is one of the largest in the country. If the club is well managed then we are a mid to upper half championship side.
To be considered a League 1 side at all would put is in the bottom 50% of clubs in the league and I don't think we are.
For a large part of our history we had a run down ground, very little investment and attendances around the 4k Mark. We were a lower league side in all aspects.
We have moved on a long way from there.
The more that people accept poor seasons and performances based on where we were 40 years ago the more we slide back down.
If you pass off the 4 and 5 nil drubbings because "we never used to play teams like Forest". The more we deserve to be below those teams.
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This season we have finished higher than we have in about 70 of our previous seasons. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 20:53 - May 9 with 774 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 20:13 - May 9 by lifelong |
This season we have finished higher than we have in about 70 of our previous seasons. |
and teh lowest in the last 14 ......in our most recent history |  |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:05 - May 9 with 767 views | lifelong |
| Looking at our history. on 20:53 - May 9 by vetchonian |
and teh lowest in the last 14 ......in our most recent history |
Very selective of you, try looking at the complete picture. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 21:06 - May 9 with 758 views | Fireboy2 |
| Looking at our history. on 21:05 - May 9 by lifelong |
Very selective of you, try looking at the complete picture. |
He cant, he cherry picks. |  | | |
| Looking at our history. on 21:08 - May 9 with 756 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 21:05 - May 9 by lifelong |
Very selective of you, try looking at the complete picture. |
Which is what?
80 years ago my Dad was brought up in a house with no indorr toilet, his paretns my Grandparents still lived the same way up to the 80s so does that mean I should nt want to have an ensuite becasue of where my dad was back then? | |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:09 - May 9 with 749 views | KeithHaynes |
| Looking at our history. on 21:08 - May 9 by vetchonian |
Which is what?
80 years ago my Dad was brought up in a house with no indorr toilet, his paretns my Grandparents still lived the same way up to the 80s so does that mean I should nt want to have an ensuite becasue of where my dad was back then? |
This thread is going down the pan 😂 |  |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:10 - May 9 with 744 views | lifelong |
| Looking at our history. on 21:08 - May 9 by vetchonian |
Which is what?
80 years ago my Dad was brought up in a house with no indorr toilet, his paretns my Grandparents still lived the same way up to the 80s so does that mean I should nt want to have an ensuite becasue of where my dad was back then? |
I don’t see what you family’s toilet situation has to do with our football club. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 21:14 - May 9 with 742 views | PawelAbbott |
| Looking at our history. on 21:05 - May 9 by lifelong |
Very selective of you, try looking at the complete picture. |
The club have invested heavily to build a platform so that we are in a better position than we were for many years.
If we always compare our position against where we were prior to the investment then you are ignoring millions of pounds of investment.
You don't spend ~£50M on the club to then accept being a League 2 side, just because that what we were in the 90s | | | |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:20 - May 9 with 726 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 21:10 - May 9 by lifelong |
I don’t see what you family’s toilet situation has to do with our football club. |
it is about expectations.....you are saying this season is ok because of where we were in the psat.....you are saying we shouldnt be negative about the dismal season we have had because it s better than what we have done in our dsitant past.... | |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:21 - May 9 with 724 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 21:09 - May 9 by KeithHaynes |
This thread is going down the pan 😂 |
bit like our coaching a right shower  | |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:26 - May 9 with 716 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 21:06 - May 9 by Fireboy2 |
He cant, he cherry picks. |
really? | |
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| Looking at our history. on 21:27 - May 9 with 713 views | vetchonian |
| Looking at our history. on 21:06 - May 9 by Fireboy2 |
He cant, he cherry picks. |
But then again there havent been many cherries to pick this season | |
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| Looking at our history. on 22:56 - May 9 with 678 views | Lorax |
| Looking at our history. on 17:21 - May 9 by Whiterockin |
Revenue from the play off semi final and final were not as high as normal because of crowd restrictions. Season ticket revenue for next season will be much higher than this season even if less tickets are sold because most had cheaper season tickets this year because we left our money in, I paid £79. |
Not to ne negative, but even allowing for higher prices, we could still have much less revenue from season tickets if enough people don't renew.
What if we sold 8/9000 seasons? Are enough people disillusioned with things to take us that low?
I/we haven't renewed for a different reason, my new job means I may miss a lot of games making it not financially viable but we hope to go to away games, I haven't been away for years. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 01:04 - May 10 with 639 views | Dr_Parnassus |
This has to be the stupidest thread we have ever had on this forum, I’m including Builthys super 6 in that too. |  |
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| Looking at our history. on 08:54 - May 10 with 576 views | onehunglow |
| Looking at our history. on 21:08 - May 9 by vetchonian |
Which is what?
80 years ago my Dad was brought up in a house with no indorr toilet, his paretns my Grandparents still lived the same way up to the 80s so does that mean I should nt want to have an ensuite becasue of where my dad was back then? |
That's nothing.I had to wear my sister's hand me downs until I was 12.
It was tough in Brynhyfryd junior mixed. | |
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| Looking at our history. on 08:58 - May 10 with 574 views | bennytheblue |
| Looking at our history. on 21:05 - May 9 by lifelong |
Very selective of you, try looking at the complete picture. |
Everything these days is about the now, not the past lifelong. I think as long as both clubs are in the championship we are doing ok, it’s our natural position anyway if you look back over time. Looking forward if we can not lose money and produce local talent and compete to go up now and again I’ll take that. The money needed to compete now is too obscene, Man City Chelsea etc spent a billion, look at the state of Man Utd on spending almost that. Teams will pop up like you did, Brighton, Burnley, Bolton, wigan, Bournemouth, Fulham, wolves, Leicester, Norwich, Pompey, Bolton, hudds, boro, West Brom, Stoke etc….but to maintain it forever is a big ask now.
Be happy |  | | |
| Looking at our history. on 09:00 - May 10 with 557 views | Whiterockin |
| Looking at our history. on 08:58 - May 10 by bennytheblue |
Everything these days is about the now, not the past lifelong. I think as long as both clubs are in the championship we are doing ok, it’s our natural position anyway if you look back over time. Looking forward if we can not lose money and produce local talent and compete to go up now and again I’ll take that. The money needed to compete now is too obscene, Man City Chelsea etc spent a billion, look at the state of Man Utd on spending almost that. Teams will pop up like you did, Brighton, Burnley, Bolton, wigan, Bournemouth, Fulham, wolves, Leicester, Norwich, Pompey, Bolton, hudds, boro, West Brom, Stoke etc….but to maintain it forever is a big ask now.
Be happy |
Top post Benny. |  | | |
| Looking at our history. on 09:20 - May 10 with 530 views | onehunglow |
| Looking at our history. on 08:58 - May 10 by bennytheblue |
Everything these days is about the now, not the past lifelong. I think as long as both clubs are in the championship we are doing ok, it’s our natural position anyway if you look back over time. Looking forward if we can not lose money and produce local talent and compete to go up now and again I’ll take that. The money needed to compete now is too obscene, Man City Chelsea etc spent a billion, look at the state of Man Utd on spending almost that. Teams will pop up like you did, Brighton, Burnley, Bolton, wigan, Bournemouth, Fulham, wolves, Leicester, Norwich, Pompey, Bolton, hudds, boro, West Brom, Stoke etc….but to maintain it forever is a big ask now.
Be happy |
Cracking stuff.
It does not mean though that we cannot strive.
Cardiff were a pretty regular feature of the old first division though and had crowds of 60k. That is a big club. | |
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| Looking at our history. on 10:18 - May 10 with 505 views | Lorax |
| Looking at our history. on 21:10 - May 9 by lifelong |
I don’t see what you family’s toilet situation has to do with our football club. |
Somebody pulled the flush?
OK, my tenpenethworth is, what we were in the past is irrelevant to where we are now. We can't claim our league position is successful today or be pleased with where and what we are today because of events in the 70's. Having got to where we are, we should be looking to consolidate and try to grow again, anything else seems like settling for failure to me. For example, if we got relegated but were consistently top 6 in league One, would that be acceptable as relatively successful compared to the 70's?
We also cannot use our 20k stadium or recent EPL status as proof we are a top half Championship club. If size of stadium was key then there are several clubs in divisions below us who'd be above us, The Hoots and the Mackems to start with. Bolton, Ipswich, Charlton and even the MK Dons, with very little history have a bigger stadium than us.
The top 6/7 English league clubs have big stadiums because they grew, they weren't always big clubs. Liverpool were second division once too. it's a long hard road but clubs can still grow, specially in area with very little competition. We could probably never grow if we were in greater Manchester because of the big clubs on our doorstep. Those big clubs are putting the smaller clubs to the sword and hvering up the toung fans because they all want to support winning teams. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 12:40 - May 10 with 459 views | bennytheblue |
| Looking at our history. on 09:20 - May 10 by onehunglow |
Cracking stuff.
It does not mean though that we cannot strive.
Cardiff were a pretty regular feature of the old first division though and had crowds of 60k. That is a big club. |
Was football expensive to go to in the 60’s or was it cheap? There’s so many other leisure things to do nowadays also and unless you have a season ticket it’s not a cheap day out is it. We can all strive to get there but I don’t think any club outside the top 6 can expect to stay there these days, look at Everton, spent 500 million and might still go down. | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 12:56 - May 10 with 446 views | STID2017 |
| Looking at our history. on 12:40 - May 10 by bennytheblue |
Was football expensive to go to in the 60’s or was it cheap? There’s so many other leisure things to do nowadays also and unless you have a season ticket it’s not a cheap day out is it. We can all strive to get there but I don’t think any club outside the top 6 can expect to stay there these days, look at Everton, spent 500 million and might still go down. |
Sure someone on a FB post about Swans said a Grandstand £3 ticket from Plymouth April 1979 would be about £10 today ?
Not sure how accurate that is, but certainly remember it seeming a lot cheaper back then.
The 1960's I think possibly even more so |  |
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| Looking at our history. on 13:23 - May 10 with 432 views | Whiterockin |
| Looking at our history. on 12:40 - May 10 by bennytheblue |
Was football expensive to go to in the 60’s or was it cheap? There’s so many other leisure things to do nowadays also and unless you have a season ticket it’s not a cheap day out is it. We can all strive to get there but I don’t think any club outside the top 6 can expect to stay there these days, look at Everton, spent 500 million and might still go down. |
2 for 1 going through the turnstiles  | | | |
| Looking at our history. on 14:04 - May 10 with 412 views | onehunglow |
Petrolused to be 5/9 .a gallong ,that s five shillings ,nine pence ,about 29 p now. | |
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| Looking at our history. on 08:41 - May 11 with 342 views | felixstowe_jack |
Football is certainly more expensive to watch than in the 60s when players only earned the average wage. These days even ordinary championship players are on £20,000 a WEEK. | |
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| Looking at our history. on 08:50 - May 11 with 331 views | builthjack |
| Looking at our history. on 01:04 - May 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
This has to be the stupidest thread we have ever had on this forum, I’m including Builthys super 6 in that too. |
Mine made the top 30. You have the first 29 places. Well done. |  |
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