| By-elections Thursday 09:27 - Jun 20 with 3172 views | britferry |
Wakefield, Yorkshire - Tory majority 3,358, MP Ahmad Khan resigned when he was convicted in April of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy at a party
Tiverton and Honiton, Devon - Tory majority 24,239 , MP Neil Parish resigned after admitting watching pornography in Parliament
If the Tories lose both, which excuses will we hear?
This always happens mid-term
Lets move on, we have the economy to sort out
Just a protest vote
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| By-elections Thursday on 17:57 - Jun 24 with 657 views | Kilkennyjack |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:54 - Jun 24 by Whiterockin |
So why were the rules different in England Wales and Scotland. |
Ask Germany and France, different situations need different solutions to get the best outcomes. |  |
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| By-elections Thursday on 17:57 - Jun 24 with 657 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:55 - Jun 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Its also clear that tactical voting can kick any Tory MP out of office.
Thats the story here.
So will the Tory MPs get rid of him, or let the people get rid of him.
Johnson is nailed on to lose his own seat.
Partying whilst people mourned will not be forgiven.
Johnson is toast.
And the shitehouse ran away to hide in Rwanda. |
If the goal is to just get rid of the tories then why have different parties? Why don’t labour/lib dems/plaid/greens etc just merge? | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:01 - Jun 24 with 643 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:57 - Jun 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Ask Germany and France, different situations need different solutions to get the best outcomes. |
The answer to that us obvious. |  | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:10 - Jun 24 with 628 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:54 - Jun 24 by Whiterockin |
So why were the rules different in England Wales and Scotland. |
The underlying provokes were essentially the same from what I remember. Wales took a harder stance than wales as Johnson always had one eye on the ERG who did not want any restrictions. Plus Johnson refused to have meetings with the devolved areas |  | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:15 - Jun 24 with 617 views | Whiterockin |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:10 - Jun 24 by Sirjohnalot |
The underlying provokes were essentially the same from what I remember. Wales took a harder stance than wales as Johnson always had one eye on the ERG who did not want any restrictions. Plus Johnson refused to have meetings with the devolved areas |
Fair point, but I felt the devolved governments were just playing party politics and taking no notice of the science. | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:43 - Jun 24 with 576 views | Sirjohnalot |
| By-elections Thursday on 18:15 - Jun 24 by Whiterockin |
Fair point, but I felt the devolved governments were just playing party politics and taking no notice of the science. |
Quite possibly. Who knows what they were told that we will never be party to. | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:08 - Jun 24 with 561 views | majorraglan |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:55 - Jun 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Its also clear that tactical voting can kick any Tory MP out of office.
Thats the story here.
So will the Tory MPs get rid of him, or let the people get rid of him.
Johnson is nailed on to lose his own seat.
Partying whilst people mourned will not be forgiven.
Johnson is toast.
And the shitehouse ran away to hide in Rwanda. |
Agreed, the voters in the 2 constituencies have used their vote to send a message to Boris and the Conservative Party.
If I were a Labour and a Liberal tactician, I’d focus on the criminality, sleaze and hypocrisy in Government and the cost of living issues. After the confidence vote, a lot of MP’s came out and openly supported Boris and I bet quite a few of them will now be twitching after these results.
If I was Kier Starmer (assuming he’s still there) I’d try to take the same approach they threatened to take when the Patterson business was kicking off - naming and shaming MPs and directly associating them to an alleged cover up’s etc, but this time I’d make Boris’s actions the focus. | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:50 - Jun 24 with 519 views | onehunglow |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:08 - Jun 24 by majorraglan |
Agreed, the voters in the 2 constituencies have used their vote to send a message to Boris and the Conservative Party.
If I were a Labour and a Liberal tactician, I’d focus on the criminality, sleaze and hypocrisy in Government and the cost of living issues. After the confidence vote, a lot of MP’s came out and openly supported Boris and I bet quite a few of them will now be twitching after these results.
If I was Kier Starmer (assuming he’s still there) I’d try to take the same approach they threatened to take when the Patterson business was kicking off - naming and shaming MPs and directly associating them to an alleged cover up’s etc, but this time I’d make Boris’s actions the focus. |
What kills the Totres is that there are unable or unwilling to jettison Johnson,a walking disaster for them. Hi arrogance is such we "ordinary" people cannot grasp. No decency,no class,no style,no humility ,no responsibility.
As for Keir/Kier, he was lumbered at birth with a name like that | |
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| By-elections Thursday on 20:12 - Jun 24 with 490 views | majorraglan |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:50 - Jun 24 by onehunglow |
What kills the Totres is that there are unable or unwilling to jettison Johnson,a walking disaster for them. Hi arrogance is such we "ordinary" people cannot grasp. No decency,no class,no style,no humility ,no responsibility.
As for Keir/Kier, he was lumbered at birth with a name like that |
Boris has created this image of cheeky chap, politically incorrect, bit of a maverick etc and it resonates with a lot of people, especially those who see politicians as stuck up, aloof, pompous etc and there’s no doubt he was a vote winner.
Underneath the PR image, there appears to be an all together different kind of person, rules/laws have been broken, there seems to be no appetite to comply with many protocols and if some of the stories are correct some serious straying from what would be considered appropriate.
Some will still see him as a vote winner regardless of what he’s done, but it seems more and more people are seeing him as a liability. The Conservatives now appear to be between a rock and a hard place.
If Labour had a really charismatic leader, I suspect the Conservatives would be trailing in the poles by a lot more than they are. | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 23:47 - Jun 24 with 460 views | Kilkennyjack |
| By-elections Thursday on 20:12 - Jun 24 by majorraglan |
Boris has created this image of cheeky chap, politically incorrect, bit of a maverick etc and it resonates with a lot of people, especially those who see politicians as stuck up, aloof, pompous etc and there’s no doubt he was a vote winner.
Underneath the PR image, there appears to be an all together different kind of person, rules/laws have been broken, there seems to be no appetite to comply with many protocols and if some of the stories are correct some serious straying from what would be considered appropriate.
Some will still see him as a vote winner regardless of what he’s done, but it seems more and more people are seeing him as a liability. The Conservatives now appear to be between a rock and a hard place.
If Labour had a really charismatic leader, I suspect the Conservatives would be trailing in the poles by a lot more than they are. |
Johnson is now a vote loser.
That much is quite clear. | |
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| By-elections Thursday on 14:27 - Jun 25 with 379 views | controversial_jack |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:50 - Jun 24 by onehunglow |
What kills the Totres is that there are unable or unwilling to jettison Johnson,a walking disaster for them. Hi arrogance is such we "ordinary" people cannot grasp. No decency,no class,no style,no humility ,no responsibility.
As for Keir/Kier, he was lumbered at birth with a name like that |
Who would they replace him with? | | | |
| By-elections Thursday on 17:33 - Jun 26 with 333 views | Kilkennyjack |
| By-elections Thursday on 14:27 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Who would they replace him with? |
Tugendhat ?
Rory Stewart ? | |
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| By-elections Thursday on 17:53 - Jun 26 with 304 views | trampie |
| By-elections Thursday on 19:50 - Jun 24 by onehunglow |
What kills the Totres is that there are unable or unwilling to jettison Johnson,a walking disaster for them. Hi arrogance is such we "ordinary" people cannot grasp. No decency,no class,no style,no humility ,no responsibility.
As for Keir/Kier, he was lumbered at birth with a name like that |
He could have been called Richard and gone by the common nickname for Richard which is Dick. |  |
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