| Hypocrisy? on 23:22 - Jul 30 with 2093 views | Kerouac |
So you are saying that your thread about how you were heartbroken regarding an awful story in the news...was not to be posted on by people who are equally heartbroken by other stories in the news...and people were to somehow guess your secret rules as to what you deem was an acceptable response or not.
You are a strange one Cat. Very strange. |  |
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| Hypocrisy? on 07:34 - Jul 31 with 2004 views | Dr_Winston |
Social housing should be means tested just like most state benefits. |  |
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| Hypocrisy? on 08:04 - Jul 31 with 2002 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Hypocrisy? on 07:34 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
Social housing should be means tested just like most state benefits. |
Correct someone in the top 5% of earners in the UK should not be living in subsidised housing. They can easily afford to pay market rent or buy their own property. |  |
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| Hypocrisy? on 08:21 - Jul 31 with 1986 views | onehunglow |
We are all hypocrites.It is simple a matter of degrees. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 09:11 - Jul 31 with 1960 views | 73__73 |
Maybe he doesn’t want to give money to a bank (mortgage)
The idea someone should be means tested is also ridiculous.
Basically all that would do is penalise people who seek to better themselves. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 09:25 - Jul 31 with 1950 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Hypocrisy? on 09:11 - Jul 31 by 73__73 |
Maybe he doesn’t want to give money to a bank (mortgage)
The idea someone should be means tested is also ridiculous.
Basically all that would do is penalise people who seek to better themselves. |
Seeking to benefit himself buy living in subsidised Council housing at the expense of tax payers. He could afford to buy his own house outright on the money he earns. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 09:29 - Jul 31 with 1948 views | 73__73 |
| Hypocrisy? on 09:25 - Jul 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Seeking to benefit himself buy living in subsidised Council housing at the expense of tax payers. He could afford to buy his own house outright on the money he earns. |
There you go, he probably could afford a nice house somewhere, but chooses to live amongst people he can relate too.
If he moved into a nice house in some posh area, people would be calling him a champagne socialist. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 11:33 - Jul 31 with 1898 views | CountyJim |
Non story this |  | | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 11:39 - Jul 31 with 1889 views | Sirjohnalot |
Not sure why he should. He lives there with his family, may have done for many years. probably has other family and friends there, why should he have to move somewhere else ? What’s the cut off point ? |  | | |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:21 - Jul 31 with 1862 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Hypocrisy? on 11:39 - Jul 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Not sure why he should. He lives there with his family, may have done for many years. probably has other family and friends there, why should he have to move somewhere else ? What’s the cut off point ? |
I think the criticism is stemmed from the fact he’s being subsidised by the taxpayer despite being a high earner. It’s a fair criticism in my view although that article doesn’t seem to be bursting with any detail. |  |
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| Hypocrisy? on 12:24 - Jul 31 with 1858 views | 73__73 |
He lives in London. He’d have to pay £500,000 for something decent | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 12:34 - Jul 31 with 1850 views | Kerouac |
| Hypocrisy? on 11:39 - Jul 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Not sure why he should. He lives there with his family, may have done for many years. probably has other family and friends there, why should he have to move somewhere else ? What’s the cut off point ? |
Can we all have a council house?
I don't fancy paying my mortgage. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 12:45 - Jul 31 with 1835 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:34 - Jul 31 by Kerouac |
Can we all have a council house?
I don't fancy paying my mortgage. |
Difference being he lived there before he was on a good wage. What would be the cut off point before being chucked out of your family home ? That wage won’t buy you a decent house in London, effectively penalising someone who’s doing well. | | | |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:46 - Jul 31 with 1833 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Interesting argument, there are very strict criteria for obtaining a council house to protect those who are vulnerable or in need and there is a shortage of affordable accommodation for those who require it. So should council's encourage those who have successfully improved their circumstances to to move to something like shared ownership? There could be an economic model that would allow councils to build more houses? [Post edited 31 Jul 2022 12:49]
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| Hypocrisy? on 12:58 - Jul 31 with 1805 views | Kerouac |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:45 - Jul 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Difference being he lived there before he was on a good wage. What would be the cut off point before being chucked out of your family home ? That wage won’t buy you a decent house in London, effectively penalising someone who’s doing well. |
My home is mine because I pay for it.
All decisions re: where I live are therefore mine.
The council house is built by the state to house those who are not currently in a position to independently provide for themselves.
This fella can clearly afford to pay for his family's accommodation, that might mean moving to a cheaper area and catching the tube/train to work.
He is blocking somebody who needs the council house from having one...whilst pretending he is devoting his life to helping the poor...this is selfishness, pure and simple, and he is a fraud taking taxpayers for a ride. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 13:24 - Jul 31 with 1779 views | 73__73 |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:58 - Jul 31 by Kerouac |
My home is mine because I pay for it.
All decisions re: where I live are therefore mine.
The council house is built by the state to house those who are not currently in a position to independently provide for themselves.
This fella can clearly afford to pay for his family's accommodation, that might mean moving to a cheaper area and catching the tube/train to work.
He is blocking somebody who needs the council house from having one...whilst pretending he is devoting his life to helping the poor...this is selfishness, pure and simple, and he is a fraud taking taxpayers for a ride. |
Nonsense. Because he’s doing relatively well for himself, his family have to suffer by moving out of the area. What area do you suggest he moves too ?
What cap on wages do you suggest before someone has to move out of a council house ?
Plus your homes isn’t yours until you make the final payment to the bank | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 13:27 - Jul 31 with 1776 views | 73__73 |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:45 - Jul 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Difference being he lived there before he was on a good wage. What would be the cut off point before being chucked out of your family home ? That wage won’t buy you a decent house in London, effectively penalising someone who’s doing well. |
I agree with you. What sort of message does that send to people who live in a council house and want to better themselves in terms of earning more to support their family etc.
Also this is London and the wages he earns are not that large | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 14:52 - Jul 31 with 1733 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Hypocrisy? on 13:24 - Jul 31 by 73__73 |
Nonsense. Because he’s doing relatively well for himself, his family have to suffer by moving out of the area. What area do you suggest he moves too ?
What cap on wages do you suggest before someone has to move out of a council house ?
Plus your homes isn’t yours until you make the final payment to the bank |
Who said anything about moving out? Presumably he would be eligible for the right to buy scheme or something similar? | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 14:59 - Jul 31 with 1725 views | 73__73 |
| Hypocrisy? on 14:52 - Jul 31 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Who said anything about moving out? Presumably he would be eligible for the right to buy scheme or something similar? |
Read the thread and you will discover | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 20:45 - Jul 31 with 1649 views | Catullus |
| Hypocrisy? on 23:22 - Jul 30 by Kerouac |
So you are saying that your thread about how you were heartbroken regarding an awful story in the news...was not to be posted on by people who are equally heartbroken by other stories in the news...and people were to somehow guess your secret rules as to what you deem was an acceptable response or not.
You are a strange one Cat. Very strange. |
No, you were free to post on it just not to hijack it with a different news story from another country.
If you want to post news stories from foreign countries then crack on, on your own thread. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 20:53 - Jul 31 with 1636 views | Catullus |
| Hypocrisy? on 11:33 - Jul 31 by CountyJim |
Non story this |
Would it be a non story if it was a Tory on 100k in a council house?
Is he really looking to better himself or to benefit from cheap London housing? Council housing that we used to say was meant for people on lower incomes. Is 100k a low income in London? | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 21:01 - Jul 31 with 1625 views | Dr_Winston |
Average rent in much of London is around £1200 a month, which he could easily afford on £100,000 a year. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 21:07 - Jul 31 with 1627 views | Whiterockin |
| Hypocrisy? on 12:58 - Jul 31 by Kerouac |
My home is mine because I pay for it.
All decisions re: where I live are therefore mine.
The council house is built by the state to house those who are not currently in a position to independently provide for themselves.
This fella can clearly afford to pay for his family's accommodation, that might mean moving to a cheaper area and catching the tube/train to work.
He is blocking somebody who needs the council house from having one...whilst pretending he is devoting his life to helping the poor...this is selfishness, pure and simple, and he is a fraud taking taxpayers for a ride. |
Rubbish.
If you are brought up in an area of social housing with family and friends locally and you work hard you have to move out. But if you are lazy and don't work you can continue to live there.
Bonkers. |  | | |
| Hypocrisy? on 21:12 - Jul 31 with 1621 views | Catullus |
| Hypocrisy? on 21:01 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
Average rent in much of London is around £1200 a month, which he could easily afford on £100,000 a year. |
What I can't find is any family details, who is he married/partnered to and does he/she work?
Maybe council houses should cgarge rent as a percentage of income? Unless you are on benefits obviously. But people on good wages, if they really want to better themselves, usually buy thir own houses, in the UK anyway. | |
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| Hypocrisy? on 22:23 - Jul 31 with 1592 views | Kerouac |
| Hypocrisy? on 21:07 - Jul 31 by Whiterockin |
Rubbish.
If you are brought up in an area of social housing with family and friends locally and you work hard you have to move out. But if you are lazy and don't work you can continue to live there.
Bonkers. |
You seem to misunderstand the purpose of social housing.
I grew up in a Council House.
It was never our house...there were rules about what you could and couldn't do, because it belonged to the Council, not us.
Why did the Council build the house?
To speculate on the property market?
To make a quick buck?
To win awards for design?
No...they built it to help poor people who couldn't afford to rent or buy. That is the purpose of a Council house.
A council house is not yours, you shouldn't have the right to live there for life (a bizarre idea...those in receipt of charity do not get to dictate the terms).
Once you are on your feet and can support yourself that is what you need to do...so somebody else who needs the council house can benefit from it and get on their feet too..
If everybody has a right to a free house where is mine?
If you work hard and get on, and don't wish to move, you can purchase your council house...and then the council can put the funds generated towards building another for somebody who needs it (at least that should be how it works, in fact the Council houses are so heavily discounted that this is probably not the case, but at least the Council should get something to put towards building new council houses). | |
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