| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 23:35 - Nov 2 with 9122 views | NotLoyal |
The thread with the real numbers !
 Wigan is a test that Swansea City must not fail 3rd Nov 2022 12:55Russell Martin looked a tad despondent after the frustrating loss at Preston North End on Tuesday night. And you can understand why, you set a team up and when they return no dividends until late on in the second half after changes it must be not only annoying, but mentally challenging.  0
 Swansea City smashed for six at home ! 3rd Nov 2022 19:51It was Saturday 6th April 1991, Wigan Athletic were the visitors to the vetch field under the guidance of Bryan Hamilton and the attendance was 2,869. One of the lowest crowds of that season in which the swans had gone eleven league and cup games without a win, in fact not even a draw. 0
 Russell Martin’s dilemma : Manning up or Olivier twist ? 5th Nov 2022 08:00Swansea City set out this afternoon to take all the points after last nights positive result for Preston North End saw them slip in to fifth place in the championship ensuring the swans fall to eighth. Two away games over the past seven days where Swansea haven’t really performed to the levels expected. 0
Swansea City: Steven Benda, Nathan Wood, Ben Cabango, Joel Latibeaudiere (captain); Armstrong Oko-Flex, Jay Fulton, Ollie Cooper, Ryan Manning; Luke Cundle, Joel Piroe; Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Andy Fisher, Harry Darling, Olivier Ntcham, Jamie Paterson, Fin Stevens, Kyle Naughton, Matty Sorinola.
Wigan Athletic: Jamie Jones, Will Keane, Jack Whatmough, James McClean, Tndayi Darikwa (captain), Charlie Wyke, Curtis Tilt, Max Power, Nathan Broadhead, Jason Kerr, Tom Naylor.
Substitutes: Sam Tickle, Callum Lang Joe Bennett, Josh Magennis, Graeme Shinnie, Jordan Cousins, Thelo Aasgaard.
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:08 - Nov 5 with 1729 views | union_jack |
Absolutely awful across the pitch.
We take quick free kicks and goal kicks. Why? We don’t attack at pace so why bother?
We allow the press to come right in our faces before we pass, usually backwards. Why not pass earlier when the gates to the midfield are still open? It’s slow, it’s ponderous, it’s bloody awful.
Someone posted on here I think a few weeks ago that Martin is in this game for his own ends (words to that effect). I have to agree as his team just play simple passes, pretty at times but ineffective certainly with the players at his disposal. Is he saying “Man City come and get me. Look how I get a team like this passing the ball”? He’s not a tactician, that is plain to see.
Very disappointed with today and this post was coming even if we’d won. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:14 - Nov 5 with 1684 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:08 - Nov 5 by union_jack |
Absolutely awful across the pitch.
We take quick free kicks and goal kicks. Why? We don’t attack at pace so why bother?
We allow the press to come right in our faces before we pass, usually backwards. Why not pass earlier when the gates to the midfield are still open? It’s slow, it’s ponderous, it’s bloody awful.
Someone posted on here I think a few weeks ago that Martin is in this game for his own ends (words to that effect). I have to agree as his team just play simple passes, pretty at times but ineffective certainly with the players at his disposal. Is he saying “Man City come and get me. Look how I get a team like this passing the ball”? He’s not a tactician, that is plain to see.
Very disappointed with today and this post was coming even if we’d won. |
Well,it might have been me or my doom and gloomers,the hate filled entitled chunts who aren’t smart enough to see th3 good work our great coach is doing.. We re not proper fans .
Show me a more boring ,predic@table hapless team touted as being a process or project .
Wigan are second bottom and on a poor run.
Next up Huddersfield ,also a bad run.
We can’t say we are fourth in the league yet still complaining now can we ?
Barmy army indeed |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:26 - Nov 5 with 1629 views | GixerJack |
I’m sorry I have to ask because I wasn’t able to go today, was a good comeback after a poor start against a team looking for a win or did Wigan set up to frustrate us and score two lucky breakaway goals? |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:27 - Nov 5 with 1625 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:14 - Nov 5 by onehunglow |
Well,it might have been me or my doom and gloomers,the hate filled entitled chunts who aren’t smart enough to see th3 good work our great coach is doing.. We re not proper fans .
Show me a more boring ,predic@table hapless team touted as being a process or project .
Wigan are second bottom and on a poor run.
Next up Huddersfield ,also a bad run.
We can’t say we are fourth in the league yet still complaining now can we ?
Barmy army indeed |
Hope you enjoyed the rugby. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:31 - Nov 5 with 1604 views | jojaca |
I thought strange sub at half time, Obi-Flex looked more threatening than any of the other on the pitch.
But overall I thought it was a boring match to watch, side to side and more side to side and even more side to side. It was the defenders that were trying the ambitious pass, while the midfield played the safe ball.
I miss the days of wingers with pace and a playmaker pulling the strings. We are extremely poor version of Pep's City. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:34 - Nov 5 with 1579 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:31 - Nov 5 by jojaca |
I thought strange sub at half time, Obi-Flex looked more threatening than any of the other on the pitch.
But overall I thought it was a boring match to watch, side to side and more side to side and even more side to side. It was the defenders that were trying the ambitious pass, while the midfield played the safe ball.
I miss the days of wingers with pace and a playmaker pulling the strings. We are extremely poor version of Pep's City. |
Bit an insult mentioning us in the same breath 😉 | |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:40 - Nov 5 with 1518 views | Treforys_Jack |
442 or 451 please Russell. Oh and stop this high risk low reward strategy in our own 1/3 as well. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:50 - Nov 5 with 1474 views | Dr_Winston |
Well, if nothing else today confirms how replaceable Grimes is. A few patient souls, wise beyond their years have maintained for some time now that there's nothing he does that couldn't be replicated by Jay Fulton, and so it proved.
Shame about the rest of it really. I cannot for the life of me fathom why we started the game with Oli Cooper, perhaps our most in form attacking midfielder. sitting deep. Why we took off the only two pacy players in the team, players who had at least at times troubled Wigan. Why anyone also seems to think that Luke Cundle offers anything to the side other than a bit of effort. There's no real quality there at all as far as I can tell.
We set up badly and mostly got worse from there. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:04 - Nov 5 with 1402 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:50 - Nov 5 by Dr_Winston |
Well, if nothing else today confirms how replaceable Grimes is. A few patient souls, wise beyond their years have maintained for some time now that there's nothing he does that couldn't be replicated by Jay Fulton, and so it proved.
Shame about the rest of it really. I cannot for the life of me fathom why we started the game with Oli Cooper, perhaps our most in form attacking midfielder. sitting deep. Why we took off the only two pacy players in the team, players who had at least at times troubled Wigan. Why anyone also seems to think that Luke Cundle offers anything to the side other than a bit of effort. There's no real quality there at all as far as I can tell.
We set up badly and mostly got worse from there. |
Disappointing performance, we had nobody in midfield to control the game and provide a quality through ball.
Some strange substitutions in the second half. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:05 - Nov 5 with 1396 views | ploppy |
We've gone from conceding late to conceding early. I don't know which is worse but we at least show some character to come back when when we're losing (mostly). | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:09 - Nov 5 with 1371 views | RichardO |
Let's change the back line as many times as we can and just unsettle them, who doing what at corners?
Look back and see what you're most effect back line is and give them a chance. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:12 - Nov 5 with 1352 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:27 - Nov 5 by KeithHaynes |
Hope you enjoyed the rugby. |
Is C##T and approved word? These days? I realise the poster is a recognised "grandee" of the forum and has some influence but readers will be off if language goes down the tube again. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:16 - Nov 5 with 1347 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:05 - Nov 5 by ploppy |
We've gone from conceding late to conceding early. I don't know which is worse but we at least show some character to come back when when we're losing (mostly). |
Not sure about the “character “ Wigan were absolutely god awful , two goals from set pieces then spent more worrying about wasting time which they e were allowed to with gay abandon, the officials were dodgy to say the least certainly the linesman in front of the east stand either didn’t care or was someone plucked in off the street but he was clueless , spent more time chatting with the crowd than watching and then acting on clearly blatant fouling in the box , poor selection players out of position and for me scared to make a mistake and in doing so made them , mix passes , no communication , not willing to look up or forward ,definitely a game to forget | |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:34 - Nov 5 with 1288 views | shingle |
Lose to Birmingham and could be back down in the bottom half, seems as if the overly excitable ones amongst us may have jumped the gun yet again. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:37 - Nov 5 with 1250 views | bennytheblue |
Martin out  |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:41 - Nov 5 with 1228 views | AnotherJohn |
Credit for fighting back to grab a point, but many of the usual problems were still visible today. One problem that actually seems to have worsened in recent weeks is the central defence's inability to clear high balls. Apart from frequently being outjumped, the three in the middle let far too many balls bounce for my liking. At times they were holding off making a serious challenge in the hope that a touch off the attacking forward would fall to a defender. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:56 - Nov 5 with 1177 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:41 - Nov 5 by AnotherJohn |
Credit for fighting back to grab a point, but many of the usual problems were still visible today. One problem that actually seems to have worsened in recent weeks is the central defence's inability to clear high balls. Apart from frequently being outjumped, the three in the middle let far too many balls bounce for my liking. At times they were holding off making a serious challenge in the hope that a touch off the attacking forward would fall to a defender. |
Obstructing forwards and letting it go over head is exactly the way Martin wants to play so we can reclaimed the ball going back to the goalie if necessary.
Gives the opposition time to regroup. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:03 - Nov 5 with 1139 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:14 - Nov 5 by onehunglow |
Well,it might have been me or my doom and gloomers,the hate filled entitled chunts who aren’t smart enough to see th3 good work our great coach is doing.. We re not proper fans .
Show me a more boring ,predic@table hapless team touted as being a process or project .
Wigan are second bottom and on a poor run.
Next up Huddersfield ,also a bad run.
We can’t say we are fourth in the league yet still complaining now can we ?
Barmy army indeed |
We started without Naughton and Grimes, that must have made you happy? | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:32 - Nov 5 with 1058 views | mahoss |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:41 - Nov 5 by AnotherJohn |
Credit for fighting back to grab a point, but many of the usual problems were still visible today. One problem that actually seems to have worsened in recent weeks is the central defence's inability to clear high balls. Apart from frequently being outjumped, the three in the middle let far too many balls bounce for my liking. At times they were holding off making a serious challenge in the hope that a touch off the attacking forward would fall to a defender. |
I don’t get it 🙄
We have to play a certain way apparently……..
With a bit of commonsense we,d be out of sight in this league !
Still…….we move on.
Frustrating……… | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:32 - Nov 5 with 1059 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:50 - Nov 5 by Dr_Winston |
Well, if nothing else today confirms how replaceable Grimes is. A few patient souls, wise beyond their years have maintained for some time now that there's nothing he does that couldn't be replicated by Jay Fulton, and so it proved.
Shame about the rest of it really. I cannot for the life of me fathom why we started the game with Oli Cooper, perhaps our most in form attacking midfielder. sitting deep. Why we took off the only two pacy players in the team, players who had at least at times troubled Wigan. Why anyone also seems to think that Luke Cundle offers anything to the side other than a bit of effort. There's no real quality there at all as far as I can tell.
We set up badly and mostly got worse from there. |
the problem is you are not a football visionary like our good manager who at one point had Oli Cooper playing on the wing | |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:41 - Nov 5 with 1024 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:32 - Nov 5 by mahoss |
I don’t get it 🙄
We have to play a certain way apparently……..
With a bit of commonsense we,d be out of sight in this league !
Still…….we move on.
Frustrating……… |
Sorry, can’t agree. We don’t have the personnel to be out of sight in the league. Mix that in with the lack of tactical nouse (you called it common sense or lack of, fair play) then we are mid table at most.
If what I read on the other site that Martin was screaming at Oko-Flex from the off and pulled him at HT because he wasn’t following orders then that is very damning of Martin. He was a ray if hope with a bit of pace and could have done a bit of damage second half,
You have to wonder. [Post edited 5 Nov 2022 19:53]
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:42 - Nov 5 with 1021 views | ploppy |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:41 - Nov 5 by AnotherJohn |
Credit for fighting back to grab a point, but many of the usual problems were still visible today. One problem that actually seems to have worsened in recent weeks is the central defence's inability to clear high balls. Apart from frequently being outjumped, the three in the middle let far too many balls bounce for my liking. At times they were holding off making a serious challenge in the hope that a touch off the attacking forward would fall to a defender. |
At the risk of stating the obvious, we conceded two poor goals. Cabango was outjumped for the first but the scorer did have hold of his shirt when he jumped. I don't know if that's a good excuse for Cabango or whether he shouldn't be letting that happen. The second was worse. The scorer got the run on our defenders - there were 4, I think. They weren't aware of him, which probably means their body shape was all wrong. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:49 - Nov 5 with 968 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:41 - Nov 5 by union_jack |
Sorry, can’t agree. We don’t have the personnel to be out of sight in the league. Mix that in with the lack of tactical nouse (you called it common sense or lack of, fair play) then we are mid table at most.
If what I read on the other site that Martin was screaming at Oko-Flex from the off and pulled him at HT because he wasn’t following orders then that is very damning of Martin. He was a ray if hope with a bit of pace and could have done a bit of damage second half,
You have to wonder. [Post edited 5 Nov 2022 19:53]
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yes 2 nil down and we are passing sideways abd backwards but we were dominant and passed them of the park | |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 20:01 - Nov 5 with 928 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:32 - Nov 5 by vetchonian |
the problem is you are not a football visionary like our good manager who at one point had Oli Cooper playing on the wing |
Indeed he did and what a waste of a player that was, Coopers a more than willing worker but out on the wing I think not . | |
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| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 20:18 - Nov 5 with 869 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Wigan Athletic : Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 17:50 - Nov 5 by Dr_Winston |
Well, if nothing else today confirms how replaceable Grimes is. A few patient souls, wise beyond their years have maintained for some time now that there's nothing he does that couldn't be replicated by Jay Fulton, and so it proved.
Shame about the rest of it really. I cannot for the life of me fathom why we started the game with Oli Cooper, perhaps our most in form attacking midfielder. sitting deep. Why we took off the only two pacy players in the team, players who had at least at times troubled Wigan. Why anyone also seems to think that Luke Cundle offers anything to the side other than a bit of effort. There's no real quality there at all as far as I can tell.
We set up badly and mostly got worse from there. |
For Oli read Oko Flex. Martin simply is a fraud without a clue and his decisions are showing that. Please don’t give him a new contract |  |
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