| RMT Strikes 09:40 - Nov 23 with 32064 views | 1983 |
Check before you travel folks is going to be a carve up for Christmas and NY [Post edited 23 Nov 2022 9:40]
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| RMT Strikes on 12:54 - Dec 10 with 1338 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 18:23 - Nov 25 by raynor94 |
No wonder any sympathy is evaporating, when you read posts like that.
Sadly there are going to be a lot of job losses when this dispute ends |
Which people is key
The posh,the wealthy,the privileged .. nah,they ll be ok.
The ones that won’t will be the cretins who have to work for a modest wage some of whom that get paid on results and don’t have the comfort of a good basic pay
Attitudes like Kim really does show how far we lag behind .
It is pitiful
Meanwhile ,likes of Jimbo see nothing wrong with Ronaldo earning more on an hour what many make a month |  |
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| RMT Strikes on 12:54 - Dec 10 with 1356 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 12:50 - Dec 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Even the German and British armies called a Christmas truce during the Worst killing war .
Pity all unions don't call of all strikes until the New Year and the Union leaders sit down with management over Christmas to sort it out by negotiations. |
Think it's the other way round, in most cases it's the management/government that won't sit down and negotiate. |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 13:33 - Dec 10 with 1322 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 12:54 - Dec 10 by Fireboy2 |
Think it's the other way round, in most cases it's the management/government that won't sit down and negotiate. |
Not really true that,is it.
Either all emergency services strike or none .
Police do not,because there is a greater commitment to the public,apparently. | |
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| RMT Strikes on 13:42 - Dec 10 with 1332 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 13:33 - Dec 10 by onehunglow |
Not really true that,is it.
Either all emergency services strike or none .
Police do not,because there is a greater commitment to the public,apparently. |
No because when you sign up to be old bill you know your not allowed to withdraw your labour |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 13:44 - Dec 10 with 1315 views | onehunglow |
You’re brainwashed Jim.
You can’t see it any other way | |
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| RMT Strikes on 14:43 - Dec 10 with 1314 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 13:44 - Dec 10 by onehunglow |
You’re brainwashed Jim.
You can’t see it any other way |
Is what I said true or not simple question | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 17:57 - Dec 10 with 1292 views | shingle |
| RMT Strikes on 10:07 - Nov 23 by raynor94 |
Apart from alienating the public |
Alienating some of the public yet supported by many try not to be taken in by the elitist propaganda there`s a good chap. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:48 - Dec 10 with 1260 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 14:43 - Dec 10 by CountyJim |
Is what I said true or not simple question |
The truth is what you see it as.
You are incapable of objectivity because if your political allegiance | |
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| RMT Strikes on 19:11 - Dec 10 with 1272 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 18:48 - Dec 10 by onehunglow |
The truth is what you see it as.
You are incapable of objectivity because if your political allegiance |
Ok I'll make easier for you
Is it true or false the old bill can't take industrial action | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 19:43 - Dec 10 with 1262 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 19:11 - Dec 10 by CountyJim |
Ok I'll make easier for you
Is it true or false the old bill can't take industrial action |
Why does anyone bother with I will never know.
What I do know is the police lost the right to strike in 1919 after a series of strikes and they tried to join a trade union, makes you think that government is worse than this present one.
Does that answer your question Jim? | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 02:33 - Dec 11 with 1233 views | DJack |
1983 is a poster who absolutely riles me with his idiocy...
But he is right. A union must back down just in case it MIGHT alienate the public... but a totally inept government must not deviate!
You utter ideological bellwhifs.
Its our whole country at stake and you are politicking at the expense of the nation.
C***s - my censoring not the boards so dont try crying that game. |  |
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| RMT Strikes on 09:42 - Dec 12 with 1159 views | controversial_jack |
Meanwhile, this govt has just given approval for bankers to increase their bonuses. Just saying! | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 12:52 - Dec 12 with 1109 views | krunchykarrot |
Here's the million dollar question, what is low paid?
The public purse is empty and inflation is rising but a 10% to OAP and Dole etc.
Should we pay someone who earns 50K + for the NHS 19% ?
Also take into account the pensions the public sector receive which seldom gets mentioned. Im more than happy to pay the carers and the lower paid Nurses say in the lower tax bracket or take them out of it all together might be a way forward? |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 13:12 - Dec 12 with 1104 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 12:52 - Dec 12 by krunchykarrot |
Here's the million dollar question, what is low paid?
The public purse is empty and inflation is rising but a 10% to OAP and Dole etc.
Should we pay someone who earns 50K + for the NHS 19% ?
Also take into account the pensions the public sector receive which seldom gets mentioned. Im more than happy to pay the carers and the lower paid Nurses say in the lower tax bracket or take them out of it all together might be a way forward? |
These pension you talk about we have to contribute a lot ourselves mind | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 13:16 - Dec 12 with 1102 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 13:12 - Dec 12 by CountyJim |
These pension you talk about we have to contribute a lot ourselves mind |
And they aren't as good as people think. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 13:57 - Dec 12 with 1084 views | krunchykarrot |
| RMT Strikes on 13:16 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
And they aren't as good as people think. |
Compared to the private sector they are now? | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 16:48 - Dec 12 with 1049 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 13:57 - Dec 12 by krunchykarrot |
Compared to the private sector they are now? |
No they are not.
For example do you know what pension a firefighter gets?
Pay more, get less, and HAVE to work until 60, if you retire before then you lose upto 21%.
Most firefighters will have to get another job just to make ends meet.
Yes alot have second jobs but when you think of how much we contribute, 14% of our wage we need to get one to make ends meet.
Quite a few new firefighters aren't joining the scheme because they would rather invest their hard earned money into something more productive because they know the current scheme is poor and its only going to get worse, the current government want us putting fires out when we are 65.
Being a public sector worker isn't as good as it used to be. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 17:11 - Dec 12 with 1041 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT Strikes on 16:48 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
No they are not.
For example do you know what pension a firefighter gets?
Pay more, get less, and HAVE to work until 60, if you retire before then you lose upto 21%.
Most firefighters will have to get another job just to make ends meet.
Yes alot have second jobs but when you think of how much we contribute, 14% of our wage we need to get one to make ends meet.
Quite a few new firefighters aren't joining the scheme because they would rather invest their hard earned money into something more productive because they know the current scheme is poor and its only going to get worse, the current government want us putting fires out when we are 65.
Being a public sector worker isn't as good as it used to be. |
Would that be the same fire service that only have to work 30 years for a full pension and can retire at 50 if they have 20 years service. | |
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| RMT Strikes on 17:14 - Dec 12 with 1040 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 17:11 - Dec 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Would that be the same fire service that only have to work 30 years for a full pension and can retire at 50 if they have 20 years service. |
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Are you for real?
Didn't you read my last post?
FYI there aren't 30 year pensions anymore, you can't retire after 20 years, you can't retire at 50, as I've said previously, you HAVE to work until you are 60, if you go early you lose upto 21% of what you have put in, its a disgrace as they KNOW that most ffs won't get anywhere near 60, they are thieves without the masks. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 17:20]
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| RMT Strikes on 18:30 - Dec 12 with 1012 views | krunchykarrot |
| RMT Strikes on 17:14 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are you for real?
Didn't you read my last post?
FYI there aren't 30 year pensions anymore, you can't retire after 20 years, you can't retire at 50, as I've said previously, you HAVE to work until you are 60, if you go early you lose upto 21% of what you have put in, its a disgrace as they KNOW that most ffs won't get anywhere near 60, they are thieves without the masks. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 17:20]
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I understand Fire, so what % of your final salary do yo get at 60?
On final Salary schemse you can lose 4.5% per year from 55 - 65 so oner 40% nearly double of what you quote., not that there are many if any left. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:53 - Dec 12 with 993 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT Strikes on 17:14 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are you for real?
Didn't you read my last post?
FYI there aren't 30 year pensions anymore, you can't retire after 20 years, you can't retire at 50, as I've said previously, you HAVE to work until you are 60, if you go early you lose upto 21% of what you have put in, its a disgrace as they KNOW that most ffs won't get anywhere near 60, they are thieves without the masks. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 17:20]
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Will you still be sliding down the pole at 60, FB? 🤣 | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 19:20 - Dec 12 with 964 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 18:30 - Dec 12 by krunchykarrot |
I understand Fire, so what % of your final salary do yo get at 60?
On final Salary schemse you can lose 4.5% per year from 55 - 65 so oner 40% nearly double of what you quote., not that there are many if any left. |
Everyones is different as people join at different ages, now to get a full pension you have to do 40 years, so you have to join at 20.
We lose 21% at 55 and it tapers down as you work upto 60.
The gold plated pensions have long gone, that's why more and more new recruits aren't joining the scheme, they are investing elsewhere like buying a house and renting it out, this government don't like public sector pensions, they don't want career ffs, that's why they are making the pensions less attractive, its putting people off joining the fire service and I suspect its the same in other public sector jobs. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 19:39 - Dec 12 with 948 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 18:53 - Dec 12 by Gwyn737 |
Will you still be sliding down the pole at 60, FB? 🤣 |
I struggle now gwyn 😞 | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 19:46 - Dec 12 with 940 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT Strikes on 19:39 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
I struggle now gwyn 😞 |
I expect being a public servant they’ll build you a stairlift. At the taxpayers expense. Out of gold.
You can melt it down then for your retirement carriage clock after 30 years of service. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 19:50 - Dec 12 with 938 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 19:46 - Dec 12 by Gwyn737 |
I expect being a public servant they’ll build you a stairlift. At the taxpayers expense. Out of gold.
You can melt it down then for your retirement carriage clock after 30 years of service. |
Haha that would be nice 😄 | | | |
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