| Yet more Senedd nonsense 17:58 - Feb 3 with 8049 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well then, in order to relieve congestion on th M4 they are going to build 5 new train stations, most likely in South East Wales. Putting aside the obvious shafting of the rest of South Wales again, why do they think this will work?
1, trains are already packed and expensive, more stations won't help that.
2, it won't take the business traffic off the M4, reps will still use their cars, lorries will still need the roads and to the other road users it'll be a matter of finance and convenience. is the train cheaper and easier, if not they won't use it. More stations won't change those things.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
Are the Senedd about to splash out millions on something that I personally believe to be a silly idea? |  | | |  |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:55 - Feb 4 with 982 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 11:01 - Feb 4 by raynor94 |
The assembly have tax raising powers.
Just saying |
I agree with you.
They should use them and end homelessness in Wales.
They are scared of a populist backlash, but like you say its there to be used. |  |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:45 - Feb 4 with 929 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:55 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
I agree with you.
They should use them and end homelessness in Wales.
They are scared of a populist backlash, but like you say its there to be used. |
Scared of a populist backlash? Who from, Wales always votes labour you say, why would all their supporters fight back when we desperately need investment in our country?
Truth is, Drakeford needs to be able to blame Westminster so he won't raise taxes and risk the people noticing how inept they actually are in Cardiff bay.
Drakeford could put 2p in the pound on income tax and raise how much? Does anyone know? | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 00:32 - Feb 5 with 905 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:45 - Feb 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Scared of a populist backlash? Who from, Wales always votes labour you say, why would all their supporters fight back when we desperately need investment in our country?
Truth is, Drakeford needs to be able to blame Westminster so he won't raise taxes and risk the people noticing how inept they actually are in Cardiff bay.
Drakeford could put 2p in the pound on income tax and raise how much? Does anyone know? |
Of course they know.
They also know the Tory press will weaponise any welsh tax.
Like the games they played with m4 relief road.
Also an excuse for Westminster to cut back on the little they do actually do for Wales.
If its targetted and successful then i would still do it.
Shirley even you can see the inherant risks …? | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 07:01 - Feb 5 with 892 views | Togg |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 00:32 - Feb 5 by Kilkennyjack |
Of course they know.
They also know the Tory press will weaponise any welsh tax.
Like the games they played with m4 relief road.
Also an excuse for Westminster to cut back on the little they do actually do for Wales.
If its targetted and successful then i would still do it.
Shirley even you can see the inherant risks …? |
What games were played on the relief road?The money was there to improve infrastructure into Wales. It was an awful decision, regardless of whatever politics you believe in. [Post edited 5 Feb 2023 7:02]
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense (n/t) on 08:41 - Feb 5 with 865 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 09:50 - Feb 4 by Boundy |
Nothing to do with Brexit but all to do with the Senedd or have you forgotten how "quite extraordinary' that the Labour Welsh government spent £144 million on a study and the 'filed it vertically' , a study "and decision which took 25 years to make or the fact that Westminster offered the money for it to be built .
As you say Fail |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 08:47 - Feb 5 with 861 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 09:12 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
The source of funding is Uk government cos they take taxes.
The less prosperous the uk is then the less taxes they take in.
This means they have less to spend.
This means roads, schools, hospitals, emergency services, military, and social care get underfunded - and fail.
Well done to Brexit half wits 🇬🇧 GSTK etc |
Not like you to post another lie is it. The UK economy GDP has grown by 1.9% in the last 13 months while you post the GDP in September when the country virtual shut down for 10 days and we had an extra bank holiday for the state funeral. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 08:47 - Feb 5 with 860 views | felixstowe_jack |
Correct. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 08:51 - Feb 5 with 859 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 00:32 - Feb 5 by Kilkennyjack |
Of course they know.
They also know the Tory press will weaponise any welsh tax.
Like the games they played with m4 relief road.
Also an excuse for Westminster to cut back on the little they do actually do for Wales.
If its targetted and successful then i would still do it.
Shirley even you can see the inherant risks …? |
Do you mean cut back on the Huge subsidies the UK taxpayers give to Wales around £3000 per person extra funding.
They also agreed to fully fund the vital M4 infrastructure programme which is need for the prosperity of Wales. Yet Drakeford was happy to accept UK taxpayers money which came via the EU for the heads of the valley upgrade. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 09:53 - Feb 5 with 848 views | majorraglan |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 08:47 - Feb 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Not like you to post another lie is it. The UK economy GDP has grown by 1.9% in the last 13 months while you post the GDP in September when the country virtual shut down for 10 days and we had an extra bank holiday for the state funeral. |
Sadly, the UK economy is the only one of the G7 economies that is still smaller than it was prior to the pandemic and prospects for this year don’t look good. Something isn’t right and it doesn’t help when we’ve got politicians won't take responsibility and address the issues. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:06 - Feb 5 with 842 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 09:53 - Feb 5 by majorraglan |
Sadly, the UK economy is the only one of the G7 economies that is still smaller than it was prior to the pandemic and prospects for this year don’t look good. Something isn’t right and it doesn’t help when we’ve got politicians won't take responsibility and address the issues. |
The UK has one if the lowest unemployment rates in the G7 and nearly half that of the EU. Unfortunately our economy is being held back by strikes, inefficient working practices, low productivity. Until we sort these out we will not prosper.
Wales is even less productive than the rest of the UK which trlss you something about the Senedd's reluctance to invest in new infrastructure especially roads. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:35 - Feb 5 with 826 views | controversial_jack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:06 - Feb 5 by felixstowe_jack |
The UK has one if the lowest unemployment rates in the G7 and nearly half that of the EU. Unfortunately our economy is being held back by strikes, inefficient working practices, low productivity. Until we sort these out we will not prosper.
Wales is even less productive than the rest of the UK which trlss you something about the Senedd's reluctance to invest in new infrastructure especially roads. |
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk-ec
From the IMF, It doesn't say anything about strikes or inefficient working practices. I guess, it's something you have made up again to suit your right wing agenda. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 16:14 - Feb 5 with 796 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:35 - Feb 5 by controversial_jack |
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk-ec
From the IMF, It doesn't say anything about strikes or inefficient working practices. I guess, it's something you have made up again to suit your right wing agenda. |
Yes because there so obviously haven't been any strikes by train workers, posties or anyone else.
You really must try harder. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 18:41 - Feb 5 with 767 views | Gwyn737 |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:06 - Feb 5 by felixstowe_jack |
The UK has one if the lowest unemployment rates in the G7 and nearly half that of the EU. Unfortunately our economy is being held back by strikes, inefficient working practices, low productivity. Until we sort these out we will not prosper.
Wales is even less productive than the rest of the UK which trlss you something about the Senedd's reluctance to invest in new infrastructure especially roads. |
If the high employment rate is such a positive, why the rise in food banks and right leaning media headlines of the lack of people contributing to tax as their wages are so low they still need benefits?
Why do you insist on comparisons to the EU average? Is that the limit of your ambitions? Is that why we left the EU, to compete with the average? I don’t think that’s good enough.
Even with high employment, there’s still massive recruitment issues. Do you think Brexit has been an issue.
I’m more than happy to agree that there are other factors that have caused us major difficulties, but it really obvious (and more by the day) that Brexit was a mistake.
We just need to get over the latest line around rubbish negotiators and we can get on with repairing the relationship. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:45 - Feb 5 with 729 views | majorraglan |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 10:06 - Feb 5 by felixstowe_jack |
The UK has one if the lowest unemployment rates in the G7 and nearly half that of the EU. Unfortunately our economy is being held back by strikes, inefficient working practices, low productivity. Until we sort these out we will not prosper.
Wales is even less productive than the rest of the UK which trlss you something about the Senedd's reluctance to invest in new infrastructure especially roads. |
The strikes are relatively recent and while they a slight factors, things like inefficient practices, low producing and Brexit are bigger factors.
Not arguing about the infrastructure, it’s a major issue and the WG is definitely behind the curve. Infrastructure in the UK as whole is very poor, but worse here. In places like Germany they invest in their infrastructure and are streets ahead of us. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:46 - Feb 5 with 726 views | swan65split |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:10 - Feb 3 by Togg |
This stretch of the M4 frustrates me more than any other. It's the main artery into South Wales. I feel this is really holding back potential business into the area. The money was on the table from the government for the relief road. I honestly belief if it had been a Labour UK government releasing the funds then the work would now be on going . |
The whole system in and out of, around and, up and down Wales is beyond, with no new roads having the go ahead, and if there is, if the time taken too complete is anything like the Heads of the Valley project , we are going to be penalised for decades. |  | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:49 - Feb 5 with 719 views | majorraglan |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 18:41 - Feb 5 by Gwyn737 |
If the high employment rate is such a positive, why the rise in food banks and right leaning media headlines of the lack of people contributing to tax as their wages are so low they still need benefits?
Why do you insist on comparisons to the EU average? Is that the limit of your ambitions? Is that why we left the EU, to compete with the average? I don’t think that’s good enough.
Even with high employment, there’s still massive recruitment issues. Do you think Brexit has been an issue.
I’m more than happy to agree that there are other factors that have caused us major difficulties, but it really obvious (and more by the day) that Brexit was a mistake.
We just need to get over the latest line around rubbish negotiators and we can get on with repairing the relationship. |
One of the primary reasons we have high employment is because we’ve a shed full of people on disability, in addition a huge number have retired or left work post pandemic which means there are less people looking for work. The Government have identified this and are trying to push people who’ve retired back in to work. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:27 - Feb 5 with 705 views | Boundy |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:49 - Feb 5 by majorraglan |
One of the primary reasons we have high employment is because we’ve a shed full of people on disability, in addition a huge number have retired or left work post pandemic which means there are less people looking for work. The Government have identified this and are trying to push people who’ve retired back in to work. |
Listening on Times radio ( much better than Radio 4 imo) they had many over 50's commenting on why they had retired and the reason why they had no intention of returning to the workplace, with analysts recording that since 2019 a rise of 160.000 + of 50 to 64 year olds who weren't working due to ill health , could it be because waiting times for operations have increased etc ? | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:28 - Feb 5 with 705 views | Togg |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 19:46 - Feb 5 by swan65split |
The whole system in and out of, around and, up and down Wales is beyond, with no new roads having the go ahead, and if there is, if the time taken too complete is anything like the Heads of the Valley project , we are going to be penalised for decades. |
I was in Hirwaun today. It's seems if the work is going on for ever. Aberdare onwards a nightmare. The time it took to get the A465 Brynmawr to Abergavenny complete took an age, then slowed down to 50 mph with absolutely no built up area to by pass? | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:49 - Feb 5 with 690 views | swan65split |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:28 - Feb 5 by Togg |
I was in Hirwaun today. It's seems if the work is going on for ever. Aberdare onwards a nightmare. The time it took to get the A465 Brynmawr to Abergavenny complete took an age, then slowed down to 50 mph with absolutely no built up area to by pass? |
I used to regularly use the HoV road if heading to the Midlands rather than M4/5 because of the traffic/accidents etc, in actual fact the mileage is pretty much the same, once they started the work on it, that was it chaos on both routes and its been like that for about 5-6 years. | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:59 - Feb 5 with 673 views | Boundy |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:49 - Feb 5 by swan65split |
I used to regularly use the HoV road if heading to the Midlands rather than M4/5 because of the traffic/accidents etc, in actual fact the mileage is pretty much the same, once they started the work on it, that was it chaos on both routes and its been like that for about 5-6 years. |
Only in Wales will you find a new dualled road network which cost over 300 hundred million pounds to built and intended to as many other dual carriageways a 70mph speed limit reduced to to 50 mph to save the planet. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:07 - Feb 5 with 670 views | Dr_Winston |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 20:59 - Feb 5 by Boundy |
Only in Wales will you find a new dualled road network which cost over 300 hundred million pounds to built and intended to as many other dual carriageways a 70mph speed limit reduced to to 50 mph to save the planet. |
Yet it might not even make the top five most idiotic decisions that the Welsh Govt have come up with.
I'm surprised that they don't limit Rhoose Airport to Zeppelins only. Would make about as much sense as what they've done to the HoV road. |  |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:14 - Feb 5 with 665 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 08:51 - Feb 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Do you mean cut back on the Huge subsidies the UK taxpayers give to Wales around £3000 per person extra funding.
They also agreed to fully fund the vital M4 infrastructure programme which is need for the prosperity of Wales. Yet Drakeford was happy to accept UK taxpayers money which came via the EU for the heads of the valley upgrade. |
So an English nationalist Tory Brexit government wants to give Wales more money. Fair play they are good like that…..
See how ridiculous that is ?
In reality this Johnson playing games with devolution again.
They said the butchers apron 🇬🇧 Would fly on every govt building in Wales. It must fly above Y ddraig goch.
Their levelling up funding by-passes the senedd, and goes straight to local councils.
And now they want to fund the M4 relief road to embarress welsh govt.
All a game.
Drakeford would accept the extra funding, but he cant accept uk govt dictating spend in a devolved area.
And Johnson knows he cant accept on that basis.
Hence his offer.
All about gaming the situation.
Johnson knew he would never have to pay up.
Its a pish take and if you cant see that, then i have a bridge to sell you. | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:35 - Feb 5 with 655 views | Boundy |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:07 - Feb 5 by Dr_Winston |
Yet it might not even make the top five most idiotic decisions that the Welsh Govt have come up with.
I'm surprised that they don't limit Rhoose Airport to Zeppelins only. Would make about as much sense as what they've done to the HoV road. |
I'm sure that there's more to come , their agenda for Wales has no limits when it comes to making idiotic decisions . “The M4 is a matter for the Welsh Government, not Westminster, and our decision has already been made. We remain committed to tackling congestion with solutions that recognise the unprecedented challenge of climate change as well as the financial pressures caused by 10 years of austerity and capital budget cuts.” and as we've seen this week their plan is to built 5 railway stations , not sure how that will help a motorway network built in the 60's evolve into the 21st century but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain , Kilkenny the floors all yours ? | |
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| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:46 - Feb 5 with 643 views | majorraglan |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:14 - Feb 5 by Kilkennyjack |
So an English nationalist Tory Brexit government wants to give Wales more money. Fair play they are good like that…..
See how ridiculous that is ?
In reality this Johnson playing games with devolution again.
They said the butchers apron 🇬🇧 Would fly on every govt building in Wales. It must fly above Y ddraig goch.
Their levelling up funding by-passes the senedd, and goes straight to local councils.
And now they want to fund the M4 relief road to embarress welsh govt.
All a game.
Drakeford would accept the extra funding, but he cant accept uk govt dictating spend in a devolved area.
And Johnson knows he cant accept on that basis.
Hence his offer.
All about gaming the situation.
Johnson knew he would never have to pay up.
Its a pish take and if you cant see that, then i have a bridge to sell you. |
You may well be right regarding the playing of games, there was an article featuring Alun Cairns commenting on how the government never intended the WG to have a say on replacement Brexit funding.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?s | | | |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 22:33 - Feb 5 with 623 views | Boundy |
| Yet more Senedd nonsense on 21:46 - Feb 5 by majorraglan |
You may well be right regarding the playing of games, there was an article featuring Alun Cairns commenting on how the government never intended the WG to have a say on replacement Brexit funding.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?s |
The main trouble with politicians playing games its us the end user which tend to suffer . Drakeford may or maynot have received the money for the by pass but he turned it down it because of his political ideology wouldn't let him and not because he wanted to protect the great crested newt ( of which there were many found and recorded in the Ecological Connectivity Assessment of Settlements in Monmouthshire Report
10th May 2010 ) | |
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